Posted: 12/19/2011 1:15:09 PM EDT
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So a little information first. i work in the bail recovery business and am having trouble with a particular file at the moment.
The guy jumped about 3 months ago and i have had the file for about 3 weeks. We have finally pinpointed the location that we are 99% sure he is. We have spotted a car that was traced back to his girl friend (also the cosigner on the bond) coming and going to the location an have verified that it is her. My problem is he is up for enough that we don't want to do anything to spook him, like just knock and say hi. I want to be sure that he is really there. but no mater how long we sit and wait i have never seen him. Can anybody offer up some creative ideas to figure out he is there without just seeing him enter the location. Also please forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask, it just seemed the most logical place. Update: So after all my plotting and scheming and requesting advice. We got him the old fashioned way. We sat and we waited, and we sat some more and waited some more. Unfortunately when we actually had eyes on our suspect they where having a party with 7-8 adults and at least 5 young children, So considering the situation we called in the pros to make the actual arrest, which from what we where told later turned out to be "a bit of a struggle". So in short. Thanks for all of your advice i will keep it for a rainy day, and thank you very much to the Thornton Police Department for your help. |
| Park your car close to the girlfriends car at a weird angle. Knock on the door and tell her you think you bumped her car and ask her to come out and look to see if she notices any damage, because you didn't want to drive off without saying anything. Chances are he will poke his head out. |
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Call the house at a strange hour, sound every excited and tell whoever answers that their car is being broken into. He will coming running out. Just be careful because he could come out armed and ready to fight. That's actually fairly dangerous to try. You definitely don't want to put a gun in the hands of a KNOWN bail jumper, as they're usually stupid enough to do anything to keep from going back to jail. Check property records and find out who the owner of the property is. That might be a good place to start. If you can get in touch with the property owner, assuming it's not your perp, then explain your situation and see if they can go do a "maintenance check" and verify if he's there. If he is, there ya go. Shit, if nothing else, and since you won't do any damage, turn the water off at the meter outside to give the owner/landlord an excuse in case the perp gets suspicious. |
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Call the house at a strange hour, sound every excited and tell whoever answers that their car is being broken into. He will coming running out. Just be careful because he could come out armed and ready to fight. or have a woman call asking for him....... |
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Park your car close to the girlfriends car at a weird angle. Knock on the door and tell her you think you bumped her car and ask her to come out and look to see if she notices any damage, because you didn't want to drive off without saying anything. Chances are he will poke his head out. Ya know what i actually don't think that's half bad. we could only pull it off once but it would be sure to bring everybody out of the house. I mean hey... who don't like a good car wreck. |
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Call the house at a strange hour, sound every excited and tell whoever answers that their car is being broken into. He will coming running out. Just be careful because he could come out armed and ready to fight. That's actually fairly dangerous to try. You definitely don't want to put a gun in the hands of a KNOWN bail jumper, as they're usually stupid enough to do anything to keep from going back to jail. Check property records and find out who the owner of the property is. That might be a good place to start. If you can get in touch with the property owner, assuming it's not your perp, then explain your situation and see if they can go do a "maintenance check" and verify if he's there. If he is, there ya go. Shit, if nothing else, and since you won't do any damage, turn the water off at the meter outside to give the owner/landlord an excuse in case the perp gets suspicious. You would be one hundred percent right on that. And to add a little excitement to the situation we do know that he recently bought a Glock of unknown caliber from his cousin. As for the rest the only problem i see is that it is an apartment complex that we will describe as less that desirable. And from my previous encounters with leasing office personnel they are usually not very open to the idea of helping us remove a tenant that may be paying bills. Then forcing them to remove belongings and re rent an apartment but i will keep your advice in mind for the future. i could see some ways that would be helpful if we where talking about a house or even a town home. |
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I was going to suggest disconnecting the cable and getting a uniform that LOOKS LIKE BUT ISN'T A COPY of the local cable repair people. Knock on their door and explain you need to check the cable due to a site outage.
Quick in/out. If you need to verify have someone reconnect the cable while you're in the apt Once you verify he's there ....go all Dog on his ass on video so we can watch 
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Throw some crap in a box and dress up like a UPS driver and tell whomever answers the door that it has to be signed for by the person on the label only and maybe even get a sticker that says "Verify ID" and put it next to the shipping label so it doesn't seem weird when you ask for ID.
One I've used is to knock and ask for a totally different name and when he says it's not him, ask for ID to prove it. Ive done that on the street when I know it's the right guy, just to get close so he doesn't run. |
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You could also bust the cousin for selling a gun to a known felon. See if he'll roll on his cuz in exchange for not going to prision himself Ya know if life or the law was that easy the world would be a better place but... You have to remember first off this guy has jumped bail so he has not been Convicted of a felony yet. That whole innocent until found guilty thing. All of his previous Crimes no matter how many where only misdemeanors so by law he can own it. And I am not a police officer so I can't bust the cousin for anything he may have done wrong. |
I like food delivery, stop by pizza location, tell them you want to suprise you buddy on his birthday at X location X time, can you pre pay for a delivery, pay cash, tip well, sit 500 yards back with a spotting scope or good camera lense and a good vantage point . Deliver at a time that you KNOW the gal isn;t there, that would mean that the guy will open the door you see him, get ID/photos ect ect. have the birthday pizza come with a card saying stuff like "Ted, sorry I cant make it over for your birthday, being deployed sucks, when I get back from AFG we will drink 87 beers,. I am getting out too so I can start my career as a printer repair man"  signed "Amles"
then BAN HAMMER HIM!!! |
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I like food delivery, stop by pizza location, tell them you want to suprise you buddy on his birthday at X location X time, can you pre pay for a delivery, pay cash, tip well, sit 500 yards back with a spotting scope or good camera lense and a good vantage point . Deliver at a time that you KNOW the gal isn;t there, that would mean that the guy will open the door you see him, get ID/photos ect ect. have the birthday pizza come with a card saying stuff like "Ted, sorry I cant make it over for your birthday, being deployed sucks, when I get back from AFG we will drink 87 beers,. I am getting out too so I can start my career as a printer repair man" signed "Amles"
then BAN HAMMER HIM!!! I will tell ya how it goes 
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This time of year, 'contract' FedEx guys are a dime a dozen.
Just remember, you're not bound by the 4th amendment. You can get a lot more creative than the cops, because he doesn't have the same protections against your intrusions as he does from the police. How about some of those microphones that suction cup to glass? Or cameras? Is the unit on the ground floor? Try simply looking through the various windows. They make a reverse-peephole spyglass that will let you look from outside into the apartment through the peephole. Holding a dog leash/collar and knocking, asking if they've seen your dog that got loose is a good one. Paying other folks (delivery people, mailmen, neighbors!!!!! to be informants MAY backfire but it may work well. Especially if you can figure out a neighbor that doesn't care for him. |