Posted: 4/21/2010 8:56:48 PM EDT
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On another forum I frequent, there is a person claiming to be a cop, but he didn't know what the acronym LEO stood for. Is there such a thing as a LEO who wouldn't know what the acronym means?
Any LEOs in Waippahu, HI that can confirm if this guy is an officer there or not? |
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It's possible, I suppose.
For example, in the Navy, the office once got a call asking to speak to the Provost Marshall. My people were Navy sailors and did not know who they were asking for.....that requested person was me, of course, but the Navy doesn't refer to the head of military police by that term. (We ran into similar problems with people asking for the class 6 or package store (alcohol)). The first time I came across LEO was as part of a USCG task force and it stood for Law Enforcement Operations.......same acronym, differing words, similar meaning. So it is possible, I suppose. One thing to keep in mind is to find out when he is/was a LEO.........if it was a while back, then there might be an explanation. Assuming that he was one, a while back, is it incorrect for him to say that he IS one? Legally, probably most certainly but among 'friends' on the net.....maybe not for it might be seen as "Once a LEO, always a LEO". _________________________________________________________ ("Piper, this is completely illegal."––Leo, (wtte), "Charmed") |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None.
Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. I've got no idea...yet here I am "on the job." Is it an "east coast/midwest" thing? We used the Intoxilyzer years ago but have long since abandonned it for blood tests. Most officer's in our area with less than 10 years (and certainly all with less than 5) will likely not be able to answer this question. To the OP: No point arguing with the guy who claims to be a cop - he'll out himself eventually, if he hasn't already. |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. Im LEO and I dont know what the accronym CEU is, also MN has POST licenses, but other states more than likely have some other form of licensing. Very few states other than MN use intoxilyzer. |
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CEU = Continuing Education Units. In certain states, (Texas being one of them), you have to undergo X number of units/hours of continuing education to maintain/keep your certification.
Also, Texas doesn't have POST, we have TCLEOSE. That's off the top of my head, no Googling. Not too shabby for not being an LEO... |
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not sure if this would work in HI but ask him his cert or license number then call the HI LE cert board and run the number past them. they could tell you if he is/was legit. Like in Michigan every officer has a unique license number and you could call MCOLES (and maybe even do it on line) and ID the cop by the number.
Or just continue to trip him up on simple accronyms and abbreviations like: PBT, R&O, U/s, UTL, GOA etc. If he doesnt know those and other along with LEO there is NO WAY he is a cop. I tripped a drunk up once who claimed to be a cop but refused to show any ID when I asked him to take a PBT and he said "Whats that?" Next thing he heard was CLICK CLIIIICK. J- |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. I've got no idea...yet here I am "on the job." Is it an "east coast/midwest" thing? We used the Intoxilyzer years ago but have long since abandonned it for blood tests. Most officer's in our area with less than 10 years (and certainly all with less than 5) will likely not be able to answer this question. To the OP: No point arguing with the guy who claims to be a cop - he'll out himself eventually, if he hasn't already. Yeah I didnt know what CEU was either and have 15 years on the job, not called that in Michigan, LOL J- |
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not sure if this would work in HI but ask him his cert or license number then call the HI LE cert board and run the number past them. they could tell you if he is/was legit. Like in Michigan every officer has a unique license number and you could call MCOLES (and maybe even do it on line) and ID the cop by the number. Or just continue to trip him up on simple accronyms and abbreviations like: PBT, R&O, U/s, UTL, GOA etc. If he doesnt know those and other along with LEO there is NO WAY he is a cop. I tripped a drunk up once who claimed to be a cop but refused to show any ID when I asked him to take a PBT and he said "Whats that?" Next thing he heard was CLICK CLIIIICK. J- Well, there might be any number of reasons someone might not want to broadcast their certification number on the 'net. I know I sure wouldn't want to toss mine around on Arfcom. |
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not sure if this would work in HI but ask him his cert or license number then call the HI LE cert board and run the number past them. they could tell you if he is/was legit. Like in Michigan every officer has a unique license number and you could call MCOLES (and maybe even do it on line) and ID the cop by the number. Or just continue to trip him up on simple accronyms and abbreviations like: PBT, R&O, U/s, UTL, GOA etc. If he doesnt know those and other along with LEO there is NO WAY he is a cop. I tripped a drunk up once who claimed to be a cop but refused to show any ID when I asked him to take a PBT and he said "Whats that?" Next thing he heard was CLICK CLIIIICK. J- Well, there might be any number of reasons someone might not want to broadcast their certification number on the 'net. I know I sure wouldn't want to toss mine around on Arfcom. right me neither, but if he is not a cop he is gonna come up with a bunch of stupid reasons that dont make sense, like : " I dont remember it" or " we dont get one" stuff like that. just a shot, maybe he throws our a random number. Just saying that a real cop thinks like a real cop, a fake cop can't. J- |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. I've got no idea...yet here I am "on the job." Is it an "east coast/midwest" thing? We used the Intoxilyzer years ago but have long since abandonned it for blood tests. Most officer's in our area with less than 10 years (and certainly all with less than 5) will likely not be able to answer this question. To the OP: No point arguing with the guy who claims to be a cop - he'll out himself eventually, if he hasn't already. CEU??? 3 years MP, 14 years civilian LEO. I have no clue what CEU is. (fixt) |
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Maybe he's just really into astrology and never considered any alternative meanings for Leo. I laughed at the History channel show on the US Marshall's Service. They showed the guys doing plane transports and the stupid announcer said that there was a prisoner who was a threat to persons born in July or August (Astrology Leo) while showing a pic of the manifest showing "Threat to LEOs". Comical. |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. Although I know what POST stands for, it is not a term used in Florida. We are governed by FDLE CJST (Florida Department of Law Enforcement Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission) Never heard of CEUs. I've been in LE since 1992. Again, in Florida HGN –– check 15 minute wait on intoxilyzer –– check Some of the terms are regional |
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In Va., we are hired by an agency and that agency pays to have you go through a regional, or agency specific, academy. We are licensed through the Va. Dept. of Criminal Justice Services, DCJS. Every two years we go through continuing education but I always knew it as MIR- mandatory or mandated in-service retraining. A 40 hour course that can cover any number of topics. I know every one has a number used by DCJS but I doubt most people around here would even know what their number is, me included.
I would think a number of items you bring up would be regionally specific. There are terms/ acronyms used on here that I had never encountered until I came to arfcom. |
Say it ain't so! 
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. Peace Officers aren't "Licensed" through POST, they are "certified" (and subject to de-certification as well). |
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I didn't know what LEO was until I came here, before that is was always L.E.
A lot of acronyms are regional things from East coast, West coast, or in the middle. It was like learning a whole new language when I came out here from the West Coast. So LEO is not 100%, but there are LOTS of ways of outing him. The problem you are going to run into is most cops I know are careful about PERSEC so he's not just going to give you information that's going to let you figure out who he is or where he works. Even his ORI, if he works for a department of 10 people. Or his department Mnemonic as well. If it's really an issue get the mods involved. |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. I know it was said before, but I never heard of POST. we are not allowed in our court to use HGN, so never even messed with it until they sent me to a SFST class. You have to turn an intoxiliyzer on? I don't think in 15 years I have ever seen ours turned off ( I have plenty of DUI's, but I don't run the machine)...lol Still no idea what CEU's are. |
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ORI is probably the best one to ask. Or you could use UOC or MOC not sure if all states ues those. As for CEU we dont use that in my part of the State, we call them POST credits. All the bold is Greek to me––-and sad to say, most folks here have no idea what our ORI is. (I make no secret, it's LANPD0000/LANPD0001––––no idea why we have two, but we do.) |
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I didn't know what LEO was until I came here, before that is was always L.E. A lot of acronyms are regional things from East coast, West coast, or in the middle. It was like learning a whole new language when I came out here from the West Coast. So LEO is not 100%, but there are LOTS of ways of outing him. The problem you are going to run into is most cops I know are careful about PERSEC so he's not just going to give you information that's going to let you figure out who he is or where he works. Even his ORI, if he works for a department of 10 people. Or his department Mnemonic as well. If it's really an issue get the mods involved. +1 , Same here. I thought LEO was a sign 
East Coast, the most tossed around expression is" I'm on the job". Not LEO. |
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We us 20min dep here. Don't belch, barf or spit up. Oh and spit out that crack rock please. Don't drool your snuff through the PBT straw, it tends to freak out the cell and we'll have to buy a new unit.   Oh man, I hooked a guy (We'll call him "Steve") once that had a couple DUI's out of Texas who fucked with me the WHOLE time. I think Steve knew that little "Nothing in the mouth fifteen minutes before blowing" rule, because when he got up to blow the first time he leaned over and got a slurp out of the drinking fountain enroute to the Intoxalyzer. Holy hell I was pissed! This was like my first or second DUI too so I wasn't exactly an expert. My partner/FTO laughingly told me how I screwed that one up and to wait another fifteen. I just wanted to do the test anyway because it's not like the water in his mouth that he swallowed was going to make any difference in his deep lung air. FTO said nope, and that I'd throw the case. The second time I cuffed him before moving him while he complained about his intense thirst. Need for cigarette, need for gum, etc. We get to the area where the Intoxalyzer sits in booking and I sat him on the bench next to another moron who was there for a fight. It was a hot summer night so booking was packed. He started talking smack to the fighter, who promptly headbutted Steve in the mouth, opening up Steve's lips and filling his mouth with blood. Another fifteen minutes, DAMMIT! Finally after the second time I got Steve in the right place, no mishaps, and the fucker wouldn't blow. Fine asswipe, REFUSAL! I swear to God that it's just too easy to defend a DUI in court. I won the case but the defending lawyer jumped all over me for giving him a refusal even though he farted around on purpose. |
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There is no way any Law Enforcement Officer wouldn't know what "LEO" stood for. None. Ask him if he's POST licensed or not and what he had to do to get licensed. Ask him what CEU's are. That one always stumps the posers. Then ask him what Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" is. Actually he'll just look that up on Google... You could ask if he's done DUI's, and if he says yes, ask him why you've got to wait fifteen minutes between when you turn the Intoxilyzer on and when you have the drunk blow. Most non Leo's have no idea why that one is, but any officer that's done more than one DUI would know in an instant. Honestly if not for Arfcom, I wouldn't know what LEO meant....I have never once heard id used at work....So I'd say it could be possible. |