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Posted: 9/25/2001 4:02:10 PM EDT
Watching 'Band of Brothers' I noticed they use a different phonetic alphabet then today. Is it the same one that police use? Also, when did they change it? In the Marines, the unit names are very staight forward. 1st/2nd/4rd/4th Marine Division, with Regts/BN/Co/Plts under them. ie 'Alpha' Co/1st Bn/1st Marine Reg/1st Marine Div....pretty simple. How are the unit numbers broken out logically in the Army? Was there ever a 102nd Airborne Div? or 100th ABN? Is there a rhyme or reason to it?
Link Posted: 9/25/2001 4:56:05 PM EDT
Alfa Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky Xray Yankee Zulu
Link Posted: 9/25/2001 4:59:58 PM EDT
And in German for shits and giggles... Anton Ä - Ärger Berta Cäsar Ch - Charlotte Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida Julius Kaufmann Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Ö - Ökonom Paula Quelle Richard Samuel Sch - Schule Theodor Ulrich Ü - Übermut Viktor Wilhelm Xanthippe Ypsilon Zeppelin
Link Posted: 9/25/2001 8:09:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2001 4:58:49 AM EDT by Avalon01]
"Old Military Style" In use about 1941 Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor William X-ray Yoke Zebra I also know the phonetic alphabet the RAF used in 1942-43. Let me know if you want it posted.
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 2:22:14 AM EDT
Post it! TIA I have the same question - when and why did they change? Tate
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 2:28:50 AM EDT
Think that the phonetic alfabet changed in the 1950's (When, exactly, I dont know) due to NATO standardization.
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 2:51:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Avalon01: Alfa Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky Xray Yankee Zulu
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Is "Lima" pronounced with a long "e" or long "i"? If I'm going to learn it I want the pronunciation correct.....
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 3:26:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By a3kid: Is "Lima" pronounced with a long "e" or long "i"? If I'm going to learn it I want the pronunciation correct.....
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Lima is Lee-mah, and Quebec is Key-beck. Those are the two that trip people up most.
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 4:57:04 AM EDT
British RAF 1942-1943 Apple Beer Charlie Dog Edward Freddy George Harry In Johnny OR Jig King Love Mother Nuts Orange Peter Queen Robert OR Roger Suga Tommy Uncle Vic William X-ray Yorker OR Yoke Zebra
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 5:02:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2001 5:02:30 AM EDT by Avalon01]
Just to compare here is the phonetic alphabet in use about 1916. Got it from: Signal Book, United States Army. 1916 Able Boy Cast Dock Easy Fox George Have Item Jig King Love Mike Nan Opal Pup Quack Rush Sail Tare Unit Vice Watch X-Ray Yoke Zed Somewhat similar to the phonetic alphabet in use about 1941. Just a few are different.
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 5:06:52 AM EDT
I am not aware why they kept changing the phonetic alphabet. I belive the switch from "Old Military Style" the the version is current use was to have a phonetic alphabet that was uniform all across NATO. I'll see if I an confirm that.
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Link Posted: 9/26/2001 5:56:43 AM EDT
In for 'I'? Wouldn't that be a tad confusing? I vote for the following changes: :-) Aye Cay Double-U Eye For GI I Jose Kane Qatar Sea Xylophone Then sit back and watch the hilarity ensue....
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 10:18:31 AM EDT
Chuck, Thanks for the great explanation...even a Marine can understand it =) Is WWI the farthest USA units can trace their unit history?
Link Posted: 9/26/2001 4:04:05 PM EDT
Here is a site that has every phonetic alphabet ever used (maybe). Just scroll down till you see what you want. [url]http://www.nor.com.au/community/sarc/phonetic.htm#THI[/url] DaMan
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 5:32:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/27/2001 6:09:11 AM EDT
"CSA service is considered to be US Army service and CSA earned battle honors accrue to current units. These are all ARNG units in the states of the late Confederacy (to my knowledge)." ummmm....time for some PC cleansing! Can't have the CSA credited for anything. Wonder when that will happen? I hope never.
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 11:28:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chuck: Oldest unit in the Army is a company (maybe battery) in MAARNG which has lineage to the early 1600s.
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Early 1600's!?
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 9:27:38 PM EDT
USA Pre-World War II AFFIRM BAKER CAST DOG EASY FOX GEORGE HYPO INT JIG KING LOVE MIKE NEGAT OPTION PREP QUEEN ROGER SAD TARE UNIT VICTOR WILLIAM X-RAY YOKE ZEBRA WW II ABLE BAKER CHARLIE DOG FOX GEORGE HOW ITEM JIG KING LOVE MIKE NAN OBOE PETER QUEEN ROGER SUGAR TARE UNCLE VICTOR WILLIAM X-RAY YOKE ZEBRA Korean War Vietnam Era to Present ALPHA BRAVO CHARLIE DELTA ECHO FOXTROT GOLF HOTEL INDIA JULIET KILO LIMA MIKE NOVEMBER OSCAR PAPA QUEBEC ROMEO SIERRA TANGO UNIFORM VICTOR WHISKEY X-RAY YANKEE ZULU
Link Posted: 9/29/2001 5:15:39 AM EDT
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