Posted: 9/27/2008 11:57:56 AM EDT
A friends' father gave him a Lugar. He doesn't want to keep it . He wants to give it to me . Legally, is this possible? A German weapon brought home from WWII, then given to me?It may be a stupid question, but I just don't know the answer  .BTW, I've tried to convince him to keep it, but he insists he doesn't want to keep it. He is not a gun grabber, just not into firearms, oh well. |
Parties in the same state, where the state does not require the use of a FFL dealer, seems like quite a few "conditions" to me. The OP needs to check state law, but in the absence of a state law requirement, there is no federal law requirement for the 4473 transfer between residents of the same state. |
Not true. Most states allow a face to face transfer with no paperwork. Check your local laws... |
 I think I'll pass on the Lugar  .Here is where it gets a bit sticky. Right now, I live in NY(you can see why I'm asking questions), but I'm moving to NC next month. My friend lives in PA. I have a NY resident CCW and a Florida and PA non resident CCW. I think once I move to NC, I'll ask a local FFL, see what he has to say. I'm used to doing every handgun transaction through an FFL(NY). This leads me to another question. I know in some states, handgun transaction do not require an FFL. What if someone unknowingly buys a stolen weapon and uses it to defend himself? 
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Whats a Lugar ? i know what a luger is or P08 Parabellum Pictures  Honest if he dont want it ,get ,it sounds like you are a more greatful owner of such a fine piece A colt government a P08 (luger ) a Colt peacemaker is the three guns that to me just by the look is a nice real hand gun when you get it ( damn you if you dont  ) find a ammo that throws the casings 1 to 2 meters up in the air Then by looking at the case notice the small triangular dent the case get on the case mouth the dent should be as small a possible If the casings fly to high or the dent is to deep ,then the ammo is cycling to fast During the firing the locking action is very strong ,but when the action bottom out is when you can hurt the gun by to hot ammo Sorry i cant help you with the legal stuff, only the gun ammo and such Ps if you not already have shoot the gun ,then please only load two round at first and be careful Shoot it it that way a few times to make sure it dosnt double If it goes fullauto it will be a strange feeling firing 8 rounds that way and if you dont hold on to it you might get hurt Make damn sure its not loaded when taking it apart ,,it can fire a round that is in the chamber when only having the upper part at hand ,and this most often did happen to people when they did lay the thing on the table pointing the barrel to there stomach/ p,,,, chest |
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I can't believe you are even asking dude this is ridiculous. TAke the gun, and no one will ever know. How could you ever get in trouble about it?>?? I swear some people here are too worried about getting busted by big brother for stuff they arent even doing wrong. ETA I'm not saying break the law, transfer it but dont pass up on this gun. ETA Re Read and saw that person with luger is in different state. Didn't realize this. Transfer the gun in his state via FFL and you should be good to go. |
That's not useful advice on a public forum. I think anyone can figure out how to do something illegally without your help. Figuring out how to do it properly is the purpose of good advice. |
ETA But you're right he should get it transferred the right way, its not that difficult and no reason to pass up on such a nice weapon with such historic significance |
That's the whole point of this thread  , to find out if this is wrong or right legally. It ain't my fault big brother watches over. I just don't do well in prison. I don't want the legality thing hanging over my head every time I'm transporting it to a range.I've found my answer to just FFL to FFL. |
LUGER I'll post pick after it's transferred down to me.......promise.
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| What date is the Erfurt Luger that he is giving you? If you want a practical view on this just take the gun and don't worry. "If" the ATF were to try to trace this gun it would be impossible. They would have to start at the Royal arsenal in Erfurt which was gone after WWI. Take it and then give me the serial number and let me know if it is all matching. If it is all matching I would caution against shooting it as any damage would render it about 50% value lost. |
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1918  Sending you an IM. |
FTF transfers of long guns are legal in NY between NY residents. FTF transfer of handguns are legal in NY between NY residents if both parties are NY pistol licensees or are exempt from the NY pistol licensing law. Since your friend is not a NC resident the handgun must be shipped to a NC FFL for transfer after you become a resident of NC. |
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Thats a nice piece even if the numbers are not matching ( but i would think they are ) Oil it god especially the barrel inside ( if hi did use some corrosive ammo ) keep it out of the holster ,it might course rust ( i am a bit over concerned but its really nice ) ) if you not have shoot a Luger you have to ,,its special But if this one has matching numbers it is highly collectible keep it to be admired Get one cheaper to shoot Ps dont be surprised about how many people now will contact you trying to buy it from you Get in contact with some one who REALLY now the P08/Luger and let the one tell the stories And show how it works (like a clock) BUT DONT SELL IT Of coarse if you dont have this feeling for it then its ok to sell it ,but sell it to some one who wants it for keeping ,not trading think of it when was you born ,,you dad ,,your grand dad If you want to shoot it a few times get a spare extractor + a spare ejector and use them and keep the originals to preserve the matching numbers It will properly be the most accurate 9mm you will ever shoot (the gun can do it ,,can you ) I have let more than a few Americans shoot mine ,and all was impressed Ok mine does have a tuned trigger but the rest is stock No matching numbers but its for shooting so its ok |