Posted: 5/11/2008 7:30:30 PM EDT
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A friend of mine got released from active duty recently, and has his VA exam scheduled. He is plannning on claiming PTSD, but I made the comment that it might disqualify him for firearm ownership. Am I correct in this? I thought that is what happened to the NICS system after VA tech and the NIU shootings. Any help is appreciated. |
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Could backfire on him in the long run. KOO KOO..... For life. The Dems will be coming into power and they will change the rules on for vets with PTSD . If he has PTSD tell him to go to the Vet center usally close by the VA... Good counseling. But tell him to be sure and complain about everything else and to keep his appointments. Good luck |
See... NICS Improvement Act of 2007 |
See the link above. Thanks to our wonderful US Congrassholes, this is a realistic fear for the OP's friend. I personally would never complain about any sort of "mental illness" to a physician because I know that sooner or later, it would result in the loss of my rights. I think this bill is going to set the precedent by which it will be justified that anybody diagnosed with depression, etc can no longer own firearms. |
| He has to be ajdudicated mentaly ill by a court of law. A doctors diagnosis of PTSD is not enough to get him on the ban list. PTSD is nothing to play around with. If he really thinks he has it, he needs to seek help if it is bad enough. Most of us returning from a combat zone have it to one degree or another. |
Well, the law is a twisted law. The problem is who has the legal authority to adjudicate someone a mental defective. 80,000 vets that were diagnosed with PTSD were place on the banned list during the Clinton administration. And I believe the inaccurately named NICS Improvement Act opens the door giving doctors the authority to adjudicate someone a mental defective. Others disagree with that. Only time will tell. |
"In 2000, President Clinton added between 80,000 - 90,000 names of military veterans -- who were suffering from Post Traumatic Stress (PTS) -- into the NICS background check system. These were vets who were having nightmares; they had the shakes. So Clinton disqualified them from buying or owning guns." http://www.gunowners.org/a061807.htm "Senate Democrats should guarantee that this legislation protects and enhances due process," Taff said. He noted that 83,000 veterans' names were added to the NICS database arbitrarily during the Clinton administration -- "and that must be corrected. They have found themselves disqualified from enjoying a constitutionally-protected civil right that they fought to defend." http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200710/CUL20071005b.html "LaPierre said the Clinton administration put about 80,000 such veterans into the background check system." http://www.infowars.com/articles/2nd_amendment/va_tech_gun_bill_nra_dems_team_up_to_pass.htm They were add to NICS. Whether every one of them that has tried to purchase a firearm has failed the NICS check I don't know. |
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Alright, I just waded through that pond of shit... (2) MENTAL HEALTH TERMS- The terms `adjudicated as a mental defective', `committed to a mental institution', and related terms have the meanings given those terms in regulations implementing section 922(g)(4) of title 18, United States Code, as in effect on the date of the enactment of this Act. ______________________________________________________________------- Copied from some asswipe anti-gun site:
_____________________________________________------------------- Section B obviously does not apply to your friend. Unless he plans on going into LE work (probably not even then), he probably won't have any problems. |
And here is the protection your friend has under the law:
Even if a doctor, acting alone, was able to make that kind of determination, there is a due process hearing requirement.
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What the Klinton administration did was , even back then , completely lawless. The new law provides additional , very detailed protective procedures to guard against that kind of abuse. I personally know 2 people who are VA rated at 70% ( paid at 100%) who have CCW's AND Federal C&R FFL's.. Both were rated prior to 2000 and both have been NCIS checked repeatedly. Both have renewed thier C&R AND thier CCW at least once. Again--what the Clintons did was completely wrong and lawless.  And ( not but ). There was more to it than just a PTSD diagnosis: Part of the criteria was that a specific person was officially recognised to manage the veteran's financial affairs. That was the key. Many of the folks effected by the Klintons had Altheimer's or geriatric dementia in addition to other issues. GOA didn't tell you that. The NRA did a great job at hijacking that new law right out from under the gun-grabbers. I thank your friend for his/her service. PTSD is a treatable occupational hazard , treatable as a broken bone,-- the VA does fairly well these days-- it sucked out loud during the Clinton era. Hope this helps. |
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check this active thread: Info on the VA and PTSD Should help answer some questions about PTSD and the VA |
 Let's put this to bed. Here are the facts. The VA will not , can not , take your guns away just cuz you have a little PTSD and seek treatment.
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