Posted: 3/30/2011 11:04:19 AM EDT
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If I have a stripped lower that was bought to be built into a rifle, can I have it registered as a pistol? I have not started on the lower yet, not that it matters Im sure.
So I guess what Im asking is, can I register it as a pistol, or do I need to buy another lower specifically for a pistol? |
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go look in the ar pistol forum. your answer lies with in.
however from my understanding a receiver is simply a receiver unless it has been assembled as a rifle before. meaning its not a RIFLE or a PISTOL receiver, its simply a receiver. Don't take my, or anyones word for it though, go look it up. the letters from BATFE are in that forum i'm sure. |
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If it was logged in as a rifle, you can't assemble it as a pistol. Incorrect. A receiver is a receiver. It is not a rifle or pistol, until assembled as such. A receiver should never be logged as a "rifle", nor a "pistol". Current 4473 should be checkmarked "other" and item described as "receiver", "stripped receiver", or something similar. The description is really what is most important. Here is this week's post of the ATF letter: http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Unless your state has some state requirement to register self-made handguns or restrictions on making handguns, there is nothing you need to do. Recent pistol forum thread on the same subject... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=529406&light= |
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If it was logged in as a rifle, you can't assemble it as a pistol. Incorrect. A receiver is a receiver. It is not a rifle or pistol, until assembled as such. A receiver should never be logged as a "rifle", nor a "pistol". Current 4473 should be checkmarked "other" and item described as "receiver", "stripped receiver", or something similar. The description is really what is most important. Here is this week's post of the ATF letter: http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Unless your state has some state requirement to register self-made handguns or restrictions on making handguns, there is nothing you need to do. Recent pistol forum thread on the same subject... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=529406&light= As always, you are spot-on. 
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If it was logged in as a rifle, you can't assemble it as a pistol. Incorrect. A receiver is a receiver. It is not a rifle or pistol, until assembled as such. A receiver should never be logged as a "rifle", nor a "pistol". Current 4473 should be checkmarked "other" and item described as "receiver", "stripped receiver", or something similar. The description is really what is most important. Here is this week's post of the ATF letter: http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Unless your state has some state requirement to register self-made handguns or restrictions on making handguns, there is nothing you need to do. Recent pistol forum thread on the same subject... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=529406&light= I do not understand what you are correcting, I stated "If the receiver was logged in as a rifle "as a complete rifle or wrongly listed as a rifle when just a receiver" it can't be used to build a pistol." When the ATF checks the records and finds it listed as a rifle and you have converted it to a pistol you get a free trip to the big house, sure with a little time and checking with the FFL and a bill from your lawyer you might get out of trouble. When doing a 4473 for a receiver it should be listed as "other" if it is incorrectly listed as rifle they will view it as a rifle, that is why when picking up receiver make sure "other " is selected in the description. All of the trouble started because of the huge increase in sales of ar15 lowers and FFLs who were not familiar with transferring them were labeling them as rifles. I know this because I was the first person to get a receiver through my little hole in the wall FFL 10 years ago and when the FFL checked his records and found an error in the documentation I was able to run to the shop and correct the error but was asked if I had bought an AR15 rifle and said "no just a receiver" and he said well it was labeled as a rifle and should have been listed as other, built that into a pistol and had it transferred it I would have had a little explaining to do. A pig might be a pig but if the government has it in their records as a cow you better have a cow. |