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12/12/2010 11:51:32 AM EDT
We've got whats considered a Pre-Ban (for "Banned" States) AR-15 type rifle that was purchased 18+ years ago.  No accompanying "paperwork" associated with the rifle can be found for it with regards to the purchase.  The company has since went out of business (Advanced Armaments, Lingleville, Texas) and the company name appears on most if not all of the lists that outline the known variants of AR15 rifles that fall under the Pre-Ban catagory including this one CLICK HERE.  Of course if this rifle was not a Pre-Ban it would not show up on the known available listings right?  

Can anyone tell me how to go about getting confirmation (BATFE?) or otherwise to clarify that this rifle is actually a Pre-Ban in an effort to sell this to a Banned State?
12/12/2010 2:42:16 PM EDT
[#1]
In Connecticut, any firearm/ receiver made before 13SEP1994 is a preban that is legal to own and configure as an assault weapon, provided it is not a named model (such as the Colt AR-15 or Colt Sporter). New York and Mass. don't have those restrictions on named models made before the ban. You don't need any particular documentation for it, though I personally carry a factory letter (from the successor company, LMT)  with my PWA- I feel that carrying it better sets me up to avoid problems if I was to interact with LE while using/ transporting it and would serve as good evidence to help substantiate the affirmative defense that I would raise if the officer didn't think I was legal.

Unlike under the federl ban, neither Connecticut nor NY requries the rifle to have been complete/ configured as an AW before the ban. I have written confirmation from CSP of the same, and have heard the same thing from NY. I was under the impression that Mass was the same but I am not familiar enough to say.
12/12/2010 3:26:03 PM EDT
[#2]
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In Connecticut, any firearm/ receiver made before 13SEP1994 is a preban that is legal to own and configure as an assault weapon, provided it is not a named model (such as the Colt AR-15 or Colt Sporter). New York and Mass. don't have those restrictions on named models made before the ban. You don't need any particular documentation for it, though I personally carry a factory letter (from the successor company, LMT)  with my PWA- I feel that carrying it better sets me up to avoid problems if I was to interact with LE while using/ transporting it and would serve as good evidence to help substantiate the affirmative defense that I would raise if the officer didn't think I was legal.

Unlike under the federl ban, neither Connecticut nor NY requries the rifle to have been complete/ configured as an AW before the ban. I have written confirmation from CSP of the same, and have heard the same thing from NY. I was under the impression that Mass was the same but I am not familiar enough to say.


I can't speak for CT, but NY is silent on whether construction into a complete rifle before the ban is necessary.  I know of enough savvy people, members here and attorneys that will not buy without such confirmation, but so far as anyone can tell, we have never had anything to suggest either way is more correct.

Could you post, if you haven't already, a redacted version of your letter from CSP?
12/13/2010 12:51:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the info and bump