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2/9/2010 5:47:00 PM EDT
[#1]


They are selling the U.S. Bonds right?
2/9/2010 5:47:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.


2/9/2010 5:49:30 PM EDT
[#3]
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.
2/9/2010 5:50:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Who would buy the bonds?
2/9/2010 5:51:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


But, But...We're now global citizens and national pride is proof of our imperialistic past
2/9/2010 5:51:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Never a lender nor a borrower be.

Pretty simple.
2/9/2010 5:51:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Who would buy the bonds?


james bond would buy the bonds then sell them on the bond market under the name james' pricey paper


2/9/2010 5:51:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Who would buy the bonds?


The Fed.
2/9/2010 5:52:25 PM EDT
[#9]
I keep hearing so much strange shit out of them. I think they could definitely hurt us financially if they chose to do so. They hold a lot of our bonds, manufacture an obscene amount of goods we consume, and simply cutting out the cancer seems to be impossible considering our current lifestyle. Reading the article, well, seems like sanctions from the commies is in our future.
2/9/2010 5:53:47 PM EDT
[#10]
We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  



Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.



But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.



CJ


2/9/2010 5:55:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I keep hearing so much strange shit out of them. I think they could definitely hurt us financially if they chose to do so. They hold a lot of our bonds, manufacture an obscene amount of goods we consume, and simply cutting out the cancer seems to be impossible considering our current lifestyle. Reading the article, well, seems like sanctions from the commies is in our future.


If I was the dear leader of China, I would have thought on numerous occassions on how to end relations with th USA. They are doing just that financially as our dear elected morons are signing over our country to some foreign scum.
2/9/2010 5:56:16 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Who would buy the bonds?


james bond would buy the bonds then sell them on the bond market under the name james bond's bonds



no wonder you have 11821 posts
2/9/2010 5:56:43 PM EDT
[#13]
They would suffer from lack of exports if they fucked with us like that.  WONT HAPPEN.



What you will see happen is they will increase their defense budget. Tit for tat.
2/9/2010 5:57:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


QFT

What I always wondered was why our attitude towards them always seemed different from that of the Soviet Union. Is it their size and population that kept us from clashing? I just feel like they have been keeping their heads down and biding their time..........
2/9/2010 6:00:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Bernanke and company can't do a damn thing about something like that, so we still stay close to the edge of the abyss due to actions out of the manipulator's control.  Be ready.  It's the only safe way to go.
2/9/2010 6:00:56 PM EDT
[#16]
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We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


Dude, we have been sucking on the Chinese dick since Nixon.

Zero is no different than all the other Dem and Repub leaders we have had in the CFR.

2/9/2010 6:01:02 PM EDT
[#17]
I like Karl Denninger's response to this.  China Flaps Its Jaws (Again)
2/9/2010 6:03:23 PM EDT
[#18]
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I like Karl Denninger's response to this.  China Flaps Its Jaws (Again)


I like Karl.  He calls them like he sees them.

2/9/2010 6:05:30 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Who would buy the bonds?


james bond would buy the bonds then sell them on the bond market under the name james bond's bonds



no wonder you have 11821 posts


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ dude!  ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!

lol
2/9/2010 6:05:52 PM EDT
[#20]
But, but, but Walmart and Lowes would go out of business if we stopped buying chinese junk.
2/9/2010 6:08:41 PM EDT
[#21]
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I like Karl Denninger's response to this.  China Flaps Its Jaws (Again)


That was a great rant!
2/9/2010 6:11:57 PM EDT
[#22]

i think the Euro is gonna go tits up eventually.  that should help the dollar

2/9/2010 6:14:09 PM EDT
[#23]
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I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


Hey, look, an arfcommer who doesn't have the slightest grasp of economics. I'm shocked.

2/9/2010 6:16:35 PM EDT
[#24]
One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.
2/9/2010 6:20:44 PM EDT
[#25]
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


I'm rathr curious as to what that little prick has planned...... It's got to be something financial.
2/9/2010 6:22:42 PM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:



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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.



Next.









I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


A race to the BOTTOM... Great idea...



Let's throw away 50+ years of progress, and see how much we can make the US suck...



 
2/9/2010 6:23:54 PM EDT
[#27]
Well it is not too far away, 02/11, and that is such a bummer too. My birthday is tomorrow, TEOTWAWKI is not my idea of a good belated present!

I think the whole stop buying Chinese made products is a knee jerk reaction made by many. It sounds nice, and is reminiscent of a bygone era when the products you bought were made locally. I can remember a big stink being made because a big box store that ends with Mart sold more China made products than American made products. We could stop buying goods from China, but the repercussions would be greater than many anticipate.
2/9/2010 6:24:04 PM EDT
[#28]
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i think the Euro is gonna go tits up eventually.  that should help the dollar


on an unrelated note, whos the dude on your avatar? Seen him before
2/9/2010 6:24:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
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Who would buy the bonds?


james bond would buy the bonds then sell them on the bond market under the name james bond's bonds



no wonder you have 11821 posts


i thought that was funny
2/9/2010 6:26:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.

A race to the BOTTOM... Great idea...

Let's throw away 50+ years of progress, and see how much we can make the US suck...
 


Yeah. 50 years of progress for some other Country.
2/9/2010 6:26:44 PM EDT
[#31]
China, the same country that killed our troops in one war and supplied the bastards who killed our troops in another war? China, the same country that has attacked our ships and aircraft and held their crews hostage? China, the same country that continually commits cyber attacks against us? China, the same country that has been stealing our national security secrets for decades? China, the same country that has declared us to be their enemy repeatedly? China, the same country that exterminated tens of millions of their own people, including a bunch of students on live international television? China, the same country that has threatened to use nuclear weapons against the US on three occasions?

That China?

Yeah, fuck China.
2/9/2010 6:27:09 PM EDT
[#32]
If we go in the tank so dose China. China trades off their bonds to Iran and we just tell Iran FOAD now your bonds you got from China are worthless. China should have held on to them as they will.

ETA: What Swindle1984 said too.
2/9/2010 6:27:24 PM EDT
[#33]
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.
2/9/2010 6:28:03 PM EDT
[#34]
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China, the same country that killed our troops in one war and supplied the bastards who killed our troops in another war? China, the same country that has attacked our ships and aircraft and held their crews hostage? China, the same country that continually commits cyber attacks against us? China, the same country that has been stealing our national security secrets for decades? China, the same country that has declared us to be their enemy repeatedly? China, the same country that exterminated tens of millions of their own people, including a bunch of students on live international television? China, the same country that has threatened to use nuclear weapons against the US on three occasions?

That China?

Yeah, fuck China.


2/9/2010 6:30:42 PM EDT
[#35]
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i think the Euro is gonna go tits up eventually.  that should help the dollar


on an unrelated note, whos the dude on your avatar? Seen him before


why that's joe paterno flipping off the camera

lol
2/9/2010 6:31:09 PM EDT
[#36]
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We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


That would initiate a war. We do NOT want to go there.
2/9/2010 6:34:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.


That's definitely an option.  You must understand though, that would have serious consequences of its own.
2/9/2010 6:37:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.


That's definitely an option.  You must understand though, that would have serious consequences of its own.

Anything we do now will have serious consequences.....

2/9/2010 6:40:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.


That's definitely an option.  You must understand though, that would have serious consequences of its own.

Anything we do now will have serious consequences.....



That would simply be economic sanctions in retaliation for the development of nuclear weapons.  That is much less aggressive than sending in the B-2's.  It is the least we could do.
2/9/2010 6:42:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.


That's definitely an option.  You must understand though, that would have serious consequences of its own.

Anything we do now will have serious consequences.....



That would simply be economic sanctions in retaliation for the development of nuclear weapons.  That is much less aggressive than sending in the B-2's.  It is the least we could do.


I agree, it really looks like the most likely option, in a scenario like that.  The USA, defaulting on its debt ... wow
2/9/2010 6:43:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
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One theory is, Iran's "bombshell" on 2/11 will be an agreement with China to provide them with 25% of their oil production for 20 years in exchange for a large chunk (all?) of China's US debt instruments.


That would be great.  Then we can declare those bonds void (in retaliation for Iran developing nuclear weapons) and reduce our national debt by that amount.


That's definitely an option.  You must understand though, that would have serious consequences of its own.

Anything we do now will have serious consequences.....



That would simply be economic sanctions in retaliation for the development of nuclear weapons.  That is much less aggressive than sending in the B-2's.  It is the least we could do.


I agree.
2/9/2010 6:43:51 PM EDT
[#42]
I wish I could imbed...

Muse-United States of Eurasia
2/9/2010 6:48:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


But, But...We're now global citizens and national pride is proof of our imperialistic past


LOL what you guys are saying sounds more like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Thank our current and most recent former president for beggaring the country. Now the ChiComs have us by the balls.
2/9/2010 6:51:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


I'd buy US products as long as they weren't made by a Union worker.
2/9/2010 7:07:38 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


your theory sounds very isolationist to me.
that not only destroys jobs but also causes the price of all goods to skyrocket.
this has been tried in the past, and is a utter failure.
2/9/2010 7:38:11 PM EDT
[#46]
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We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


That would initiate a war. We do NOT want to go there.


Lots of people seem to think its inevitable... Better to go to war now when we have a huge edge over them, than 30 years down the road when they start catching up

Personally though I think its in China's best interest that our economy stays afloat so we can keep buying their garbage and keeping 1.3 billion Chinese fed and happy
2/10/2010 1:08:34 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


But, But...We're now global citizens and national pride is proof of our imperialistic past


LOL what you guys are saying sounds more like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Thank our current and most recent former president for beggaring the country. Now the ChiComs have us by the balls.


Haha, wrong... I disagree with Obama as much as you do, but no, the "ChiComs" can't do shit right now. If they fuck us over, they ruin themselves... Do they gain a thing from dumping their bonds or taking a stand against america???? fuck no!!!! Study their situation.(please!!!! study world event,dont take what you read on forums as 100% truth-lool for yourself) Look at the bonds (as a % of GDP) held by foreign countries... We played our cards right, they can't do a thing right now. As much as you listen to Glen Beck (who is out there for money like the rest of the mainstream media-dont fool yourself, he is a jackass), we are not screwed. Take a look at the debt to GDP ratio, and our defense industry and you'll figure it out. Glen Beck and the others (Sarah Palin) are what are keeping the conservatives from ever taking control. They are fucking idiots who are trying to get the votes(actually money)of other idiots who dont understand a single thing about world politics or economics... Sarah Palin is the Obama of the GDP, just a well spoken, yet inexperienced jackass... She'll catch the main stream because of her talking points- about "change"- but she has no experience in washington which is what we need...

FUCK there are some stupid people out there, and sadly, they represent the majority... Not only of this country, but on this site... Which I once thought was a beacon of hope- but I was mistaken. Even you who so "bravely" defend your guns are so mislead by stupid shit and mass emails...



2/10/2010 8:07:39 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


That would initiate a war. We do NOT want to go there.


Unless they go nuclear, what exactly could China do to us? Attack our shipping with their subs? Yeah, that'd just encourage us to park several carrier groups off their coast and bomb their shit. And since we have Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea in their neighborhood, they're at a distinct disadvantage so long as we restrict ourselves to naval and air conflict. Why even bother landing troops in China? They've got too many bodies to throw at us and we don't really want to invade and conquer their shit anyway, so why bother? Just bomb their shit until they call it quits.
2/10/2010 8:21:16 AM EDT
[#49]
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We could hurt them very deeply by simply slamming a TOTAL embargo on China.  

Frankly,  I think we should have done that years ago and never let up on it.

But with zero in office, there's zero chance of that.

CJ


That would initiate a war. We do NOT want to go there.


Unless they go nuclear, what exactly could China do to us? Attack our shipping with their subs? Yeah, that'd just encourage us to park several carrier groups off their coast and bomb their shit. And since we have Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea in their neighborhood, they're at a distinct disadvantage so long as we restrict ourselves to naval and air conflict. Why even bother landing troops in China? They've got too many bodies to throw at us and we don't really want to invade and conquer their shit anyway, so why bother? Just bomb their shit until they call it quits.



When you say an embargo , how would that start a war?

It's not a blockcade of the country. We just don't buy from them.

2/10/2010 8:29:17 AM EDT
[#50]
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Kick every Chinese student out of our universities that isn't an American citizen.

Next.




I've thought long and hard to send a letter to every elected official on how to fix the economy. Simply cut China off and don't buy jack shit from them. We need to get back to manufacturing and only selling products here in the USA. Fuck everyone else outside the US.


I'd buy US products as long as they weren't made by a Union worker.


"Texans- the lowest form of man."-Robert Duvall

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