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2/1/2010 3:25:25 PM EDT
Of course, I'm at the point of just going ballistic over this. I'm taking an online math quiz. It's repeatable but the problems change slightly. They're pretty much the exact same problems but with slightly different numbers.


















This is the 3rd time I've taken this quiz and I've gotten this one problem wrong. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The question is:



























I know what I got. I know what the quiz says is the right answer. I want to see if I'm insane or not.











ETA: What a cluster fuck, one sec.


 

 
 
2/1/2010 3:27:07 PM EDT
[#1]
FOIL

Please excuse my dear aunt sally
2/1/2010 3:27:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Of course, I'm at the point of just going ballistic over this. I'm taking an online math quiz. It's repeatable but the problems change slightly. They're pretty much the exact same problems but with slightly different numbers.

This is the 3rd time I've taken this quiz and I've gotten this one problem wrong. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The question is:

5x+6                2x+18
_____  MINUS   ______
x-4                    x-4

Answer and simplify.

I know what I got. I know what the quiz says is the right answer. I want to see if I'm insane or not.

ETA: What a cluster fuck, one sec.
 


The parts in red, are we supposed to multiply or what?
2/1/2010 3:28:00 PM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


FOIL



Please excuse my dear aunt sally


Except there's nothing to FOIL.
2/1/2010 3:30:23 PM EDT
[#4]
There. WYSIWYG isn't exactly WYSIWYG here, and CODE is all sorts of different from what I'm used to as well.



That's the problem.
2/1/2010 3:30:35 PM EDT
[#5]
I may be wrong cause I haven't sat in a formal class setting since 2007, but I got 3x+16

ETA: I'm way off, disregard
2/1/2010 3:30:43 PM EDT
[#6]
uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.





Is this a trick question?

 
2/1/2010 3:31:49 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  


Nope. That's what I get as well, except now it needs to be simplified.



So, simplify it and tell me what you get.
2/1/2010 3:32:03 PM EDT
[#8]
(5x+6)/(x-4)-(2x+18)/(x-4)

since both fractions have the same denominator, you can just place the x-4 off to the side for right now.

(5x+6)-(2x+18)

or 5x+6-2x-18  (dont forget to put the minus sign on the 2x and the 8)

so 5x-2x+6-18

so you get 3x-12. now put that back over the denominator and you get..

(3x-12)/(x-4)
2/1/2010 3:32:50 PM EDT
[#9]
It obvious.  

The answer is 87.

2/1/2010 3:34:39 PM EDT
[#10]
3.  the answer is 3.

look at the numerator only.  5x+6-(2x+18)=5x+6-2x-18=3x-12=3(x-4).

so 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3.

-GTDHW's wife
2/1/2010 3:35:28 PM EDT
[#11]
-7 ?
2/1/2010 3:36:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.

Is this a trick question?  


good, now divide the top of the fraction by three, what do you get?

2/1/2010 3:36:16 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


3.  the answer is 3.



look at the numerator only.  5x+6-(2x+18)=5x+6-2x-18=3x-12=3(x-4).



so 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3.



-GTDHW's wife


Oh for fucks sake.



They wanted me to pull the 3 out.




K, thanks. I am a retard.
2/1/2010 3:36:29 PM EDT
[#14]
I get 3.

[ (5x+6) - (2x+18) ] / (x-4)

=  (3x-12)/(x-4)

=  3 (x-4)/(x-4)

=  3

2/1/2010 3:36:39 PM EDT
[#15]





Quoted:
Quoted:


uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.





Is this a trick question?  



Nope. That's what I get as well, except now it needs to be simplified.






So, simplify it and tell me what you get.
Now I get 3.





I forget the operation is but I expanded 3x-12/x-4 to 3(x-4)/x-4. Cancle the x-4's and you are left with 3.



eta; saw you got it. It threw me off too. Let me guess, MyMathLab?
 
2/1/2010 3:37:53 PM EDT
[#16]
(3x-12) / (x-4) = 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3

What do I win?
2/1/2010 3:40:04 PM EDT
[#17]
I got 3
2/1/2010 3:44:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
3.  the answer is 3.

look at the numerator only.  5x+6-(2x+18)=5x+6-2x-18=3x-12=3(x-4).

so 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3.

-GTDHW's wife


This
2/1/2010 3:44:12 PM EDT
[#19]
If the fractions have identical denominators, you are home free(?).  Simple subtract one numerator from the other, and place the result over the current denominator.  Then simplify.
2/1/2010 3:49:33 PM EDT
[#20]
4/9
2/1/2010 3:53:02 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


(3x-12) / (x-4) = 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3



What do I win?







 
2/1/2010 4:06:44 PM EDT
[#22]
-7
2/1/2010 4:07:39 PM EDT
[#23]
4/9




2/1/2010 4:11:37 PM EDT
[#24]
If you are unsure about any other problems try this site: http://www.intmath.com/Basic-algebra/Algebra-problem-solver.php
2/1/2010 4:12:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.

Is this a trick question?  



This.  There is no FOIL in this problem.  Denominators are the same so it's like any subtraction of fractions.  Don't forget the implied parentheses and to distribute the negative.
2/1/2010 4:14:28 PM EDT
[#26]
3 DUH!
2/1/2010 4:16:34 PM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:



Quoted:

uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  
This.  There is no FOIL in this problem.  Denominators are the same so it's like any subtraction of fractions.  Don't forget the implied parentheses and to distribute the negative.



No because you can factor out the (x-4). The answer is just 3.



 
2/1/2010 4:21:52 PM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:





Quoted:


Quoted:

uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  
This.  There is no FOIL in this problem.  Denominators are the same so it's like any subtraction of fractions.  Don't forget the implied parentheses and to distribute the negative.



No because you can factor out the (x-4). The answer is just 3.

 


To be specific, the answer is 3 for all x!=4
 
2/1/2010 4:23:13 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


4/9


Pluto is not a planet!

 
2/1/2010 4:31:28 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:

uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  
This.  There is no FOIL in this problem.  Denominators are the same so it's like any subtraction of fractions.  Don't forget the implied parentheses and to distribute the negative.

No because you can factor out the (x-4). The answer is just 3.

 
To be specific, the answer is 3 for all x!=4

 


Stickler!




 
2/1/2010 4:36:05 PM EDT
[#31]
3
2/1/2010 5:01:28 PM EDT
[#32]
If you solve for X it comes out to an answer of 4.

If you substitute 4 in the equation for the X, the denominator (lower number) which is X-4, you would have 4 minus 4 which equals zero.

You can't divide by zero so the problem is unsolvable as stated.
2/1/2010 5:04:08 PM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:


If you solve for X it comes out to an answer of 4.



If you substitute 4 in the equation for the X, the denominator (lower number) which is X-4, you would have 4 minus 4 which equals zero.



You can't divide by zero so the problem is unsolvable as stated.


YOU FAIL AT THE MATH



 
2/1/2010 5:04:50 PM EDT
[#34]
3 after simplification
2/1/2010 5:07:46 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
3.  the answer is 3.

look at the numerator only.  5x+6-(2x+18)=5x+6-2x-18=3x-12=3(x-4).

so 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3.

-GTDHW's wife

 


This.


2/1/2010 5:09:32 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:



Quoted:

uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  
This.



5x-2x= 3x,  6-18=-12



You can't just separate those like that!




 
2/1/2010 5:10:12 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
If you solve for X it comes out to an answer of 4.

If you substitute 4 in the equation for the X, the denominator (lower number) which is X-4, you would have 4 minus 4 which equals zero.

You can't divide by zero so the problem is unsolvable as stated.


There is no equation given
2/1/2010 5:13:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.

Is this a trick question?  
This.

5x-2x= 3x,  6-18=-12

You can't just separate those like that!
 


Yes you can. The same equation could be written 5x/x-4 + 6/x-4 - 2x/x-4 -18/x-4  Now sum, and then simplify.

2/1/2010 5:18:03 PM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


I got 3


This is the answer.




 
2/1/2010 5:22:46 PM EDT
[#40]
I got
2/1/2010 5:24:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Quoted:
If you solve for X it comes out to an answer of 4.

If you substitute 4 in the equation for the X, the denominator (lower number) which is X-4, you would have 4 minus 4 which equals zero.

You can't divide by zero so the problem is unsolvable as stated.

YOU FAIL AT THE MATH
 


U B right.  I missed the minus sign and thought it was an = sign.

Just for fun, Solve it as if the minus WAS and = sign.

2/1/2010 5:26:57 PM EDT
[#42]
I  got .99999999bar = 1

TRG
2/1/2010 5:27:05 PM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:


Quoted:

uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.



Is this a trick question?  
This.



5x-2x= 3x,  6-18=-12

You can't just separate those like that!


 
Yes you can. The same equation could be written 5x/x-4 + 6/x-4 - 2x/x-4 -18/x-4  Now sum, and then simplify.



Yes, it can be written this way. It didn't look to me that you were preserving the denominators.



((5x/x-4) + (6/x-4)) - ((2x/x-4) + (18/x-4))



(3x/x-4) + (-12/x-4) = (3x-12/x-4) = 3(x-4)/x-4) = 3



 
2/1/2010 5:29:18 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
uhhh, I get 3x-12/x-4.

Is this a trick question?  
This.

5x-2x= 3x,  6-18=-12
You can't just separate those like that!
 
Yes you can. The same equation could be written 5x/x-4 + 6/x-4 - 2x/x-4 -18/x-4  Now sum, and then simplify.

Yes, it can be written this way. It didn't look to me that you were preserving the denominators.

((5x/x-4) + (6/x-4)) - ((2x/x-4) + (18/x-4))

(3x/x-4) + (-12/x-4) = (3x-12/x-4) = 3(x-4)/x-4) = 3
 


I was just ignoring them because they were common.

2/1/2010 5:31:08 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

If you solve for X it comes out to an answer of 4.



If you substitute 4 in the equation for the X, the denominator (lower number) which is X-4, you would have 4 minus 4 which equals zero.



You can't divide by zero so the problem is unsolvable as stated.
YOU FAIL AT THE MATH

 
U B right.  I missed the minus sign and thought it was an = sign.



Just for fun, Solve it as if the minus WAS and = sign.



If this is what you are describing then there is no solution.








 
2/1/2010 5:31:32 PM EDT
[#46]





Quoted:


I was just ignoring them because they were common.







Sorry. I guess I get confuses when things are not written out verbose.






 
2/1/2010 5:31:51 PM EDT
[#47]
simple math?

Simple answer....87
2/1/2010 5:44:29 PM EDT
[#48]
This.



I spent Friday and yesterday teaching this skill to 14 year olds.



well, TRYING to.



We had one problem come out to be 1



them  "what!? how can that whole mess be ONE?"



me "that's for me to know and you to LEARN!"


Quoted:


3.  the answer is 3.



look at the numerator only.  5x+6-(2x+18)=5x+6-2x-18=3x-12=3(x-4).



so 3(x-4)/(x-4) = 3.



-GTDHW's wife






 
2/1/2010 7:15:32 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
4/9


27/9