Posted: 1/22/2010 1:13:56 AM EDT
| Ever heard of it? I have, he was 17 when it happened and is now a Deputy Sheriff. I am still thinking WTF |
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Convicted Felon running for Sheriff
And, sad to say it, he's got a lot of local support. State lawmakers hav a bill in the works to prevent felons from becoming Sheriff. This will be fun to watch. 
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| He broke into a home when he was 17. Went to the acadamy got hired, then fired when they found out the state would not allow him to carry a firearm. He got a lawer and now is a Peace Officer. I believe he is a good guy that did something stupid when he was young but i thought these kind of things were a no-go for LEOs. |
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Not in all states, in Missoui you are a adult at 17.
Unless he was an adjudicated adult, that was a juvenile conviction and as such, got sealed when he turned 18. So, it does not exist to a background investigator unless a court is petitioned and rules that the record be opened. This is rare. |
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I thought you were talking about this one;
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/29/2009-12-29_gov_paterson_pardons_.html
Gov. Paterson pardons Army veteran Osvaldo Hernandez of felony that blocked him from joining NYPD A decorated Army veteran whose lifelong dream of joining the NYPD was blocked by a 2002 felony conviction was pardoned Tuesday by Gov. Paterson. "Osvaldo Hernandez has demonstrated that individuals can turn their lives around and that we need not let our mistakes define us," Paterson said in announcing the pardon. "I commend Mr. Hernandez for his exemplary military career and am proud to assist him in attempting to further his career in law enforcement." Hernandez, 27, thanked the governor "for giving me back my life." "I am no hero," Hernandez said in a statement issued by his attorney. "I am just an American soldier. This is the beginning for me, not the end." The pardon could clear the legal impediment to Hernandez joining the department. But NYPD spokesman Paul Browne had no immediate comment on Hernandez's chaged status. Hernandez pleaded guilty after a Nov. 22, 2002, arrest for weapons possession - a decision that prompted him to reevaluate his life. After doing eight months, he received a waiver to enlist in the Army and served three years with the 82nd Airborne Division. He was deployed to Afghanistan in February 2007, and served there for 15 months. He received a number of decorations and an honorable discharge. Upon his return, the Queens man decided to pursue a career with the NYPD. But police officials said his felony conviction - for keeping a .380-caliber handgun under the seat of his car - prohibited him from becoming a cop. The soldier launched a court fight last year to land a legal exemption that would allow him to join the NYPD. Hernandez convinced both the judge and the prosecutor from his earlier conviction that he was worthy of service with the police force. Queens Supreme Court Justice Barry Kron issued a "relief of civil disability" certificate that allows him to carry a gun - a right Hernandez had forfeited with his 2002 guilty plea. Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown said Hernandez was richly deserving of a chance with the NYPD. "Frankly, I have not seen an application for clemency more compelling," he said Tuesday. Last March, Hernandez ranked 25th on the list of NYPD applicants after scoring a near-perfect grade on the entrance exam, his lawyer said. Despite the pardon, Hernandez's NYPD plans are on hold because his National Guard unit was called back to active duty in August. He's due back in Afghanistan next month.  |
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Quoted: Never heard of it, but I could see being ok with it, depending on the individual's circumstances. For example, if the felony was x amount of years ago and not something like a rape/child abuse/bribery/extortion/A&B etc and he had kept his nose clean since then. How do you get over the whole "felon in possession of a firearm" bit? |
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I thought you were talking about this one; http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/29/2009-12-29_gov_paterson_pardons_.html
Gov. Paterson pardons Army veteran Osvaldo Hernandez of felony that blocked him from joining NYPD A decorated Army veteran whose lifelong dream of joining the NYPD was blocked by a 2002 felony conviction was pardoned Tuesday by Gov. Paterson. "Osvaldo Hernandez has demonstrated that individuals can turn their lives around and that we need not let our mistakes define us," Paterson said in announcing the pardon. "I commend Mr. Hernandez for his exemplary military career and am proud to assist him in attempting to further his career in law enforcement." Hernandez, 27, thanked the governor "for giving me back my life." "I am no hero," Hernandez said in a statement issued by his attorney. "I am just an American soldier. This is the beginning for me, not the end." The pardon could clear the legal impediment to Hernandez joining the department. But NYPD spokesman Paul Browne had no immediate comment on Hernandez's chaged status. Hernandez pleaded guilty after a Nov. 22, 2002, arrest for weapons possession - a decision that prompted him to reevaluate his life. After doing eight months, he received a waiver to enlist in the Army and served three years with the 82nd Airborne Division. He was deployed to Afghanistan in February 2007, and served there for 15 months. He received a number of decorations and an honorable discharge. Upon his return, the Queens man decided to pursue a career with the NYPD. But police officials said his felony conviction - for keeping a .380-caliber handgun under the seat of his car - prohibited him from becoming a cop. The soldier launched a court fight last year to land a legal exemption that would allow him to join the NYPD. Hernandez convinced both the judge and the prosecutor from his earlier conviction that he was worthy of service with the police force. Queens Supreme Court Justice Barry Kron issued a "relief of civil disability" certificate that allows him to carry a gun - a right Hernandez had forfeited with his 2002 guilty plea. Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown said Hernandez was richly deserving of a chance with the NYPD. "Frankly, I have not seen an application for clemency more compelling," he said Tuesday. Last March, Hernandez ranked 25th on the list of NYPD applicants after scoring a near-perfect grade on the entrance exam, his lawyer said. Despite the pardon, Hernandez's NYPD plans are on hold because his National Guard unit was called back to active duty in August. He's due back in Afghanistan next month. http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/30/alg_osvaldo_hernandez.jpg If there was no other factor other than him having a gun under his seat in a Commie state then let him have at it. |
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If he was a juvinile and the sentence (or convictions) was/were in a juvniel court and he was sentenced and convicted by a judge not a jury. Pretty much if you were under 18 and did not get convected as an adult (being under 18 and your case goes before a jury) your records can be destroyd. There may be some rocord left but in the real world they are useless. Unless you are convicted via a jury the conviction is not valid and has no standing.
It's good for misguided kids who get put into places and situations that suck. I'll give you a good example. A young kid new in town and about 16 years old gets into an (unprovoked) fight with a few other kids the same age. The kid kicks the crap out of the gang and they wont let it pass. They follow the kid back to his house and call up more friends. The new kid on the block looks out the window and sees about 20 other kids out side his house with bats, knives, rocks and such. The kid in fear for the lives of his family calls 911. The sherriffs show up and the gang of kids say that the 16 year old pulled a gun on them (not being true). The sherriffs ask the kid who called 911 where the gun is. The kid having a 1911 at the time that was given to him buy his father and in a secure location in the house told the sheriff exactly what happend and that the firearm never left the house. The kid who called 911 was thrown in to the car, the 1911 was taken by the sherriff, the kid gets locked up. They offer the kid a "deal". The kid too poor to higher a real lawyer gets some type of social worker type to plead for him and give recomendations (basicly somone who could care less). The "deal" they offer is basicly, "you need to plead guilty and they will lower the charges of, Assault with a deadly weapon to brandishment of a firearm." The kid not really having any where else to turn takes the "Deal" even though he is not guilty and is the victim. The kid is sentenced to 6 months detention, 4 years probation, and 200 comunity services hours. Remember, this conviction is WITHOUT A JURY. The kid becomes an adult and about 15 years later, saves enough money to higher a real lawyer and has all of the records destroyed at the higest level. Pretty much as if it never happend (as far as the law goes). The morale of the story is don't judge the guy without knowing the full story. Give me liberty or give me death. Samuel |
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Quoted: Convicted Felon running for Sheriff And, sad to say it, he's got a lot of local support. State lawmakers hav a bill in the works to prevent felons from becoming Sheriff. This will be fun to watch. I hadn't heard about this till now but as soon as I read your post and local I said to myself I bet its that dickhead Hege. Fukin hippocrit that he is. |
| So if someone has a felony as a juvenile does that prevent them from buying a firearm and getting a permit to conceal carry? If not then I don't see the problem with him becoming a LEO. Kids do alot of stupid shit, it's just part of the learning process. I know people that did all kinds of crazy illegal shit when they were kids but are now law abiding citizens. But like someone else said, if it was child rape/murder/abuse, thats unforgivable. |