Posted: 1/13/2010 11:57:33 AM EDT
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What a week. Had to take the 2001.5 Passat into the shop and get the timing belt done, as well as a few other things. $1400 later, out the door.
Well, today the wife calls to let me know she lost the key and the keyless entry device. She calls VW (since it is one of those specialty keys) and they want $220 for the switchblade key with the remote!!!! HOLY CRAP.  I wish there was a cheaper way to do this. Looking on-line, I can get a blank key and the remote for $80. Then programming is $60-$70 and the cutting of the key is another $60-$70. So in the end, no difference in price. What happened to keys for $3.00 at ace hardware..... 
If anyone knows a more reasonably priced way to get this done, please, let me know. Anyone else ever deal with this on VW or Audi? |
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What a week. Had to take the 2001.5 Passat into the shop and get the timing belt done, as well as a few other things. $1400 later, out the door. Well, today the wife calls to let me know she lost the key and the keyless entry device. She calls VW (since it is one of those specialty keys) and they want $220 for the switchblade key with the remote!!!! HOLY CRAP. I wish there was a cheaper way to do this. Looking on-line, I can get a blank key and the remote for $80. Then programming is $60-$70 and the cutting of the key is another $60-$70. So in the end, no difference in price. What happened to keys for $3.00 at ace hardware.....
If anyone knows a more reasonably priced way to get this done, please, let me know. Anyone else ever deal with this on VW or Audi? You need to contact www.worldimpex.com They will have the best prices for your key If you buy the valet key and get a new keyfob with the key cut according to your VIN you can progam the fob yourself...DO a search on VWVortex for instructions on how |
| It was 900 when I had my timing belt done on my 5.5. The shop said I was the first one they had done (This was some years ago) so they went off the 04 price. After it was said and done they told me it would be more expensive but since they had quoted me the 04 price they would honor it. Guess it pays to drive a lot. |
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Cheaper? Bentley Factory Service Manual, VCDS + laptop and the proper tools. Parts for the timing belt job are in the $300 range to do the exact same job. As far as the key goes, VCDS will also help with the reprogramming. Less than a hundred if you have tools and some one who will work for beer. The vwvortex forums have a lot of pictorial DIY guides as well .they've saved me a ton of money. |
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Thanks for the info so far!!!
The timing belt and the other stuff I had done, in total, came to $1400. I priced it around, the price was fair and I was willing to pay for what needed to be done. The key and key fob are what I need to get and there doesn't seem to be a 'cheap' way to do it. I tried www.worldimpex.com and couldn't find anything as far as keys go. Thanks for the link though. I will certainly use that. The vwvortex forums also seem to be pretty sweet. Thanks for that as well! Pretty crazy that a key is $200+. I wonder if they have financing available for it. 
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Thanks for the info so far!!! The timing belt and the other stuff I had done, in total, came to $1400. I priced it around, the price was fair and I was willing to pay for what needed to be done. The key and key fob are what I need to get and there doesn't seem to be a 'cheap' way to do it. I tried www.worldimpex.com and couldn't find anything as far as keys go. Thanks for the link though. I will certainly use that. The vwvortex forums also seem to be pretty sweet. Thanks for that as well! Pretty crazy that a key is $200+. I wonder if they have financing available for it. YOur best route is to call world impex...You'll get what you need by talking to a body on the other line...thier website aint that great |
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I feel your pain. I bought my wife a 02 passat on a whem without any research. I was on eggshells all the time about the timing belt breaking and wrecking all 20 valves on the 1.8T. Also oil sludging, and cv joints, then the air quit and it was time for it to go. This was with 50,0000 miles. I was lucky I never lost a key fob. I heard they are terrible expensive. Fun car to drive but thats about it. |
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Thanks for the info so far!!! The timing belt and the other stuff I had done, in total, came to $1400. I priced it around, the price was fair and I was willing to pay for what needed to be done. The key and key fob are what I need to get and there doesn't seem to be a 'cheap' way to do it. I tried www.worldimpex.com and couldn't find anything as far as keys go. Thanks for the link though. I will certainly use that. The vwvortex forums also seem to be pretty sweet. Thanks for that as well! Pretty crazy that a key is $200+. I wonder if they have financing available for it. Look on ebay..when I had my Crapwagon Passat, mine was washed and ruined. I found one on ebay for $50 and then went to a indy shop and had it reprogrammed. So..are your control arms intact? Have you had to have them replaced yet? I had to have 2 complete replacements of the control arms, in 3 years. Using sealed and non-greaseable bushings was a poor choice. I loved the look and feel of my Passat, but it was a poorly designed car...I was not sorry to trade it in. |
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I feel your pain. I bought my wife a 02 passat on a whem without any research. I was on eggshells all the time about the timing belt breaking and wrecking all 20 valves on the 1.8T. Also oil sludging, and cv joints, then the air quit and it was time for it to go. This was with 50,0000 miles. I was lucky I never lost a key fob. I heard they are terrible expensive. Fun car to drive but thats about it. Wow. That's what we went through! The warning was the $500 for 5 hours of work to replace a leaking $.49 rubber seal. Then, the A/C. |
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I feel your pain. I bought my wife a 02 passat on a whem without any research. I was on eggshells all the time about the timing belt breaking and wrecking all 20 valves on the 1.8T. Also oil sludging, and cv joints, then the air quit and it was time for it to go. This was with 50,0000 miles. I was lucky I never lost a key fob. I heard they are terrible expensive. Fun car to drive but thats about it. Sounds like my Passat...When I traded mine in, the gas gauge was busted, the window pinch sensors shorted out and the windows would not close all the way, the turbo was going out and burning oil, the cruise was not working and the control arms were on the way out for the 3rd time. All of that happened at under 65,000 miles. Great looking cars, and you are right, fun to drive, but a big headache after about 30,000 miles. In less than 3 years, it had nearly $4000 in repairs...thankfully warranty work, but my car spent more time in the shop that I spent in the car. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Thanks for the info so far!!! The timing belt and the other stuff I had done, in total, came to $1400. I priced it around, the price was fair and I was willing to pay for what needed to be done. The key and key fob are what I need to get and there doesn't seem to be a 'cheap' way to do it. I tried www.worldimpex.com and couldn't find anything as far as keys go. Thanks for the link though. I will certainly use that. The vwvortex forums also seem to be pretty sweet. Thanks for that as well! Pretty crazy that a key is $200+. I wonder if they have financing available for it. YOur best route is to call world impex...You'll get what you need by talking to a body on the other line...thier website aint that great +1 for world impex. Their price were always lower than my price, with my employee discount, working in the parts dept at a VW dealer. Usually their prices were below dealer cost. Living within 30 minutes of their warehouse has saved me 1000's. If you can sift through the BS, vwvortex is a wealth of information. Using the search and tech forums, i was able to teach myself how to do nutty things to my vw's. |
| My GF got a 01 passat from her parents after they got a new car and after that i will never own any newer VW. It was theirs from new and after countless i mean countless repairs she traded for a honda civic. The car had 120k and all dealer serviced, but when the 1.8l engine started knocking it was time to get rid of that thing. |
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Quoted: My timing belt/water pump replacement set me back $800 a few years ago. If you still have one key there is a guy on eBay that will sell and cut the blade based on a digital picture for like $14. I had one done by him and it worked flawlessly. The reprogramming from the dealer was free.What a week. Had to take the 2001.5 Passat into the shop and get the timing belt done, as well as a few other things. $1400 later, out the door. Well, today the wife calls to let me know she lost the key and the keyless entry device. She calls VW (since it is one of those specialty keys) and they want $220 for the switchblade key with the remote!!!! HOLY CRAP. I wish there was a cheaper way to do this. Looking on-line, I can get a blank key and the remote for $80. Then programming is $60-$70 and the cutting of the key is another $60-$70. So in the end, no difference in price. What happened to keys for $3.00 at ace hardware..... If anyone knows a more reasonably priced way to get this done, please, let me know. Anyone else ever deal with this on VW or Audi? |
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I feel your pain. I bought my wife a 02 passat on a whem without any research. I was on eggshells all the time about the timing belt breaking and wrecking all 20 valves on the 1.8T. Also oil sludging, and cv joints, then the air quit and it was time for it to go. This was with 50,0000 miles. I was lucky I never lost a key fob. I heard they are terrible expensive. Fun car to drive but thats about it. Sounds like my Passat...When I traded mine in, the gas gauge was busted, the window pinch sensors shorted out and the windows would not close all the way, the turbo was going out and burning oil, the cruise was not working and the control arms were on the way out for the 3rd time. All of that happened at under 65,000 miles. Great looking cars, and you are right, fun to drive, but a big headache after about 30,000 miles. In less than 3 years, it had nearly $4000 in repairs...thankfully warranty work, but my car spent more time in the shop that I spent in the car. Haha i thought my Passat was a piece of shit..........oh wait, it was. Not quite this bad but a huge steaming pile of shit no less. |
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Thanks for the info so far!!! The timing belt and the other stuff I had done, in total, came to $1400. I priced it around, the price was fair and I was willing to pay for what needed to be done. The key and key fob are what I need to get and there doesn't seem to be a 'cheap' way to do it. I tried www.worldimpex.com and couldn't find anything as far as keys go. Thanks for the link though. I will certainly use that. The vwvortex forums also seem to be pretty sweet. Thanks for that as well! Pretty crazy that a key is $200+. I wonder if they have financing available for it. http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/vagproducts-keyless-remote-with-key_552430.html |
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pick up the haynes manual for your VW, the only thing I haven't done on my car when it needed repair was the clutch, because it was about -10 at the time. timing on a VW is easy, all the pulleys have arrows that should line up when the car is put on top dead center, so if you move one when the belt is off it is easily placed back with little effort. I have replaced my valve cover gasket, water pump, plugs and wires, radiator, and probably more I cant think of right now. I'm not a mechanic and have never taken classes, with the help of the internet and a manual I have done a lot on my own, the one thing I have used my mechanic friend for was to confirm diagnosis of a problem and to drink beer and watch me incase I break something. ETA: car has 85k miles on it, the only parts that failed were the water pump and the clutch, the rest was due to my own election for replacement or broken by my own hand  |
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What a week. Had to take the 2001.5 Passat into the shop and get the timing belt done, as well as a few other things. $1400 later, out the door. Well, today the wife calls to let me know she lost the key and the keyless entry device. She calls VW (since it is one of those specialty keys) and they want $220 for the switchblade key with the remote!!!! HOLY CRAP. I wish there was a cheaper way to do this. Looking on-line, I can get a blank key and the remote for $80. Then programming is $60-$70 and the cutting of the key is another $60-$70. So in the end, no difference in price. What happened to keys for $3.00 at ace hardware.....
If anyone knows a more reasonably priced way to get this done, please, let me know. Anyone else ever deal with this on VW or Audi? Take it from me on this one...I had my timing belt snap on my 01 GTI and thank Christ it was still under warranty and I only had to pay the $100 deductable. about $6000 in total damage done from that and replacing the Turbo (heat issue with the bolts stripping and falling out. dont ask me how). When it comes to the keys I have no idea what to do other than pay VW for it...besides the switchblade key is just fun to play with. |
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This is interesting... http://jalopnik.com/398558/volkswagen-will-build-plant-in-chattanooga-tennessee |
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Quoted: pick up the haynes manual for your VW, the only thing I haven't done on my car when it needed repair was the clutch, because it was about -10 at the time. timing on a VW is easy, all the pulleys have arrows that should line up when the car is put on top dead center, so if you move one when the belt is off it is easily placed back with little effort. I have replaced my valve cover gasket, water pump, plugs and wires, radiator, and probably more I cant think of right now. I'm not a mechanic and have never taken classes, with the help of the internet and a manual I have done a lot on my own, the one thing I have used my mechanic friend for was to confirm diagnosis of a problem and to drink beer and watch me incase I break something. ETA: car has 85k miles on it, the only parts that failed were the water pump and the clutch, the rest was due to my own election for replacement or broken by my own hand Fuck no no no no no! Only the Robert Bentley Factory Service Manual for any VW or Audi. Haynes sucks, period. While SOME VWs have timing indicators, others DO NOT. And any mark and pray method on these is certain to failure. For example, on the ALH turbo diesels (1998-2004), the cam sprocket must be pulled. Timing the camshaft is done by a locking plate which engages a slot on the back end of the cam. The crank is then locked in TDC with another tool and the injection pump hub is locked with a pin. Then the injection pump sprocket is loosened from the hub. The belt is then installed with the two sprockets loose on their respective shafts to equalize tension between the three sprockets. Once tension is set, sprockets are then locked to their shafts, locking devices removed and the engine is in time. |
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Snip You need to contact www.worldimpex.com They will have the best prices for your key If you buy the valet key and get a new keyfob with the key cut according to your VIN you can progam the fob yourself...DO a search on VWVortex for instructions on how [/quote] +1 for VWvortex.com if anyone can help you out it will be them guys check the tech forum. been out of the VW sceen for a while got tired of replacing burnt Pistons and bent rods doing double shots with a bad a/f program and too much boost is fun but got way to costly 
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Dang Brou, that's pretty much it except that I have a 2001 and a half model. Hummmm..... I need to call them. |
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pick up the haynes manual for your VW, the only thing I haven't done on my car when it needed repair was the clutch, because it was about -10 at the time. timing on a VW is easy, all the pulleys have arrows that should line up when the car is put on top dead center, so if you move one when the belt is off it is easily placed back with little effort. I have replaced my valve cover gasket, water pump, plugs and wires, radiator, and probably more I cant think of right now. I'm not a mechanic and have never taken classes, with the help of the internet and a manual I have done a lot on my own, the one thing I have used my mechanic friend for was to confirm diagnosis of a problem and to drink beer and watch me incase I break something. ETA: car has 85k miles on it, the only parts that failed were the water pump and the clutch, the rest was due to my own election for replacement or broken by my own hand Fuck no no no no no! Only the Robert Bentley Factory Service Manual for any VW or Audi. Haynes sucks, period. While SOME VWs have timing indicators, others DO NOT. And any mark and pray method on these is certain to failure. For example, on the ALH turbo diesels (1998-2004), the cam sprocket must be pulled. Timing the camshaft is done by a locking plate which engages a slot on the back end of the cam. The crank is then locked in TDC with another tool and the injection pump hub is locked with a pin. Then the injection pump sprocket is loosened from the hub. The belt is then installed with the two sprockets loose on their respective shafts to equalize tension between the three sprockets. Once tension is set, sprockets are then locked to their shafts, locking devices removed and the engine is in time. And you're almost there! |
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Quoted: On the Toyota in the drive I could change the cam, timingchain, rockers, rocker shaft, water pump, belt, coolant, and oil for less than you timming belt. And my keys are cheaper. But your keys don't also roll up/down the windows, close the sun roof or summon help, do they? |
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I really want this car to last. I hope for your sake it does, but of the 4 people I know that had a Passat when I did, none of them have one now. Theirs developed problems that were fixed over and over and would never stay fixed. Control Arms being one of them, mostly electronic shit...cruise, windows, gauges, radio..it's the little shit that nickle dimes you to death. |
| Robert Bosch is the new Lucas, Prince of Darkness. Pretty much everyone I know that has had a VW product in the last ten years has had electrical problems with them. Add the control arm issues, fuel injection problems, basic interior parts falling off and I'll pass. |
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Robert Bosch is the new Lucas, Prince of Darkness. Pretty much everyone I know that has had a VW product in the last ten years has had electrical problems with them. Add the control arm issues, fuel injection problems, basic interior parts falling off and I'll pass. Are these all the VWs made in Mexico? My '06 GTI has 70k on the clock and practically trouble free. |
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Robert Bosch is the new Lucas, Prince of Darkness. Pretty much everyone I know that has had a VW product in the last ten years has had electrical problems with them. Add the control arm issues, fuel injection problems, basic interior parts falling off and I'll pass. Are these all the VWs made in Mexico? My '06 GTI has 70k on the clock and practically trouble free. My Passat was made in Germany. |
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After much headache, the wife went back this evening to where she lost them. She went inside and asked if anyone turned in a key. Sure enough, some awesome person found it and turned it in. I wish they left a name or something. It would be nice to hook them up with a nice gift certificate to somewhere.
Anyway, thanks for all the help, the links, and the laughs. As I said before, we have had few issues with our Passat and have so far enjoyed the car. So, now the wife needs to make up for the headaches she caused.
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