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1/9/2010 3:18:38 PM EDT
I am working on setting up a new website for a local firearm advocate group.





I have worked a lot with networking and computers in general but not so much with web design.





As such, I have no real idea what content management system would be the best for the site to operate with.





Please provide your insight.





 
1/9/2010 3:26:31 PM EDT
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1/9/2010 3:32:44 PM EDT
[#2]
They all suck, sorry for the news.  We "upgraded" our site to Joomla from a standalone custom thing with a shopping cart and upgraded the webservers from two single core rigs to four dual core rigs, double the memory, etc etc.  We were offline within 30 minutes of launching the site after the downtime.  Those massive frameworks are not performance friendly.

Might be ok for you if you don't have as many visitors and users as we do, but be wary of ever having to upgrade to something else later.

Personally, I build sites "by hand" with existing frameworks and libraries; e.g. Zend Framework and JQuery.  It's pretty simple if you know PHP, and PHP itself is easy to pick up if you know any other languages.
1/9/2010 3:36:13 PM EDT
[#3]



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They all suck, sorry for the news.  We "upgraded" our site to Joomla from a standalone custom thing with a shopping cart and upgraded the webservers from two single core rigs to four dual core rigs, double the memory, etc etc.  We were offline within 30 minutes of launching the site after the downtime.  Those massive frameworks are not performance friendly.



Might be ok for you if you don't have as many visitors and users as we do, but be wary of ever having to upgrade to something else later.



Personally, I build sites "by hand" with existing frameworks and libraries; e.g. Zend Framework and JQuery.  It's pretty simple if you know PHP, and PHP itself is easy to pick up if you know any other languages.


I know Java and some C++ but have not learned PHP yet.



I am not expecting a ton of visitors to the site.



We just need the ability to allow several members to upload content to the live site.



For that reason I have ruled out the possibility of using a static page.



 
1/9/2010 3:40:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:

Quoted:
They all suck, sorry for the news.  We "upgraded" our site to Joomla from a standalone custom thing with a shopping cart and upgraded the webservers from two single core rigs to four dual core rigs, double the memory, etc etc.  We were offline within 30 minutes of launching the site after the downtime.  Those massive frameworks are not performance friendly.

Might be ok for you if you don't have as many visitors and users as we do, but be wary of ever having to upgrade to something else later.

Personally, I build sites "by hand" with existing frameworks and libraries; e.g. Zend Framework and JQuery.  It's pretty simple if you know PHP, and PHP itself is easy to pick up if you know any other languages.

I know Java and some C++ but have not learned PHP yet.

I am not expecting a ton of visitors to the site.

We just need the ability to allow several members to upload content to the live site.

For that reason I have ruled out the possibility of using a static page.
 


you can use Java with servlets and JSP's. or learn the .net framework if you intend for this site to be more of a larger longer lasting site like ARFCOM is.

Personally I'd just setup a page using DotNetNuke or something, it's simple enough.

that said, I have no experience with any of the sites/services you listed
1/9/2010 5:47:48 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
They all suck, sorry for the news.  We "upgraded" our site to Joomla from a standalone custom thing with a shopping cart and upgraded the webservers from two single core rigs to four dual core rigs, double the memory, etc etc.  We were offline within 30 minutes of launching the site after the downtime.  Those massive frameworks are not performance friendly.

Might be ok for you if you don't have as many visitors and users as we do, but be wary of ever having to upgrade to something else later.

Personally, I build sites "by hand" with existing frameworks and libraries; e.g. Zend Framework and JQuery.  It's pretty simple if you know PHP, and PHP itself is easy to pick up if you know any other languages.

I know Java and some C++ but have not learned PHP yet.

I am not expecting a ton of visitors to the site.

We just need the ability to allow several members to upload content to the live site.

For that reason I have ruled out the possibility of using a static page.
 


I wasn't suggesting static.  ZF is an MVC framework for PHP, that has classes for all the database fun and so on, it does most of the 'grunt work' for you.  jQuery is a javascript library that can do a lot of stuff as well.  With what you've said though, any of those you listed will probably work.  Just don't forget to keep up to date on patches for whichever you choose.
1/9/2010 5:56:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I set up my own web site for my barn building business that I have.  I  registered my domain name thru GO-Daddy and then used their web site tonight to set up the actual design, they have several templates you can pick from.  They were very helpful when I had some problems.
1/9/2010 6:31:59 PM EDT
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I haven't used this, but my brother speaks highly of it:  CMS Made Simple

It is apparently PHP based.


I have used Drupal (mostly by grafting its role-based authentication on to some of my own custom code), and while I want to like it, I'm not quite there yet.

Drupal is also PHP based, but you should be able to use it without knowing PHP unless you want to go digging into its guts...



I can't say much about the others - I didn't like the administration interface of Mambo, but I haven't played with it for several years. I did a little bit of work with Wordpress, but don't know enough to make an intelligent recommendation about it...
1/9/2010 8:37:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Setting up this whole thing is very frustrating. It's going to take a few more days to figure out what to do I think.
1/9/2010 9:04:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Keep us posted.  This thread is relevant to my interests.
1/10/2010 5:37:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Why not go simple and set them up with static pages that import blogger.com content wells?



The end users can easily log into blogger then navigate to the "static" page and then paste in content