It was 4:30 in the morning on Sept. 5, 1972, when five Arab terrorists wearing track sweat suits climbed the six-foot six-inch fence surrounding the Olympic Village. Although they were seen by several people, no one thought anything was unusual since athletes routinely hopped the fence; moreover, the terrorists' weapons were hidden in athletic bags. These five were met by three more men who are presumed to have obtained credentials to enter the village.

Just before 5, the Arabs knocked on the door of Israeli wrestling coach Moshe Weinberg. When Weinberg opened the door he realized something was wrong and shouted a warning to his comrades. He and weightlifter Joseph Romano attempted to block the door while other Israelis escaped, but they were killed by the terrorists. The Arabs then succeeded in rounding up nine Israelis to hold as hostages.

At 9:30, the terrorists announced that they were Palestinians and demanded that Israel release 200 Arab prisoners and that the terrorists be given safe passage out of Germany.

After hours of tense negotiations, the Palestinians, who it was later learned belonged to a PLO faction called Black September, agreed to a plan whereby they were to be taken by helicopter to the NATO air base at Firstenfeldbruck where they would be given an airplane to fly them and their hostages to Cairo.

The Israelis were then taken by bus to the helicopters and flown to the airfield. In the course of the transfer, the Germans discovered that there were eight terrorists instead of the five they expected and realized that they had not assigned enough marksmen to carry out the plan to kill the terrorists at the airport!

After the helicopters landed at the air base around 10:30 p.m., the German sharpshooters attempted to kill the terrorists and a bloody firefight ensued. [b]At 11, the media was mistakenly informed that the hostages had been saved and the news was announced to a relieved Israeli public.[/b] Almost an hour later, however, new fighting broke out and one of the helicopters holding the Israelis was blown up by a terrorist grenade. The remaining hostages in the second helicopter were shot to death by one of the surviving terrorists.

At 3 a.m., a drawn and teary-eyed Jim McKay, who had been reporting the drama throughout the day as part of ABC's Olympic coverage, announced: [b]"They're all gone."[/b]

Five of the terrorists were killed along with one policeman, and three were captured. [b]A little over a month later, on Oct. 29, a Lufthansa jet was hijacked by terrorists demanding that the Munich killers be released.[/b]

[b]The Germans capitulated and the terrorists were let go, but an Israeli assassination squad was assigned to track them down along with those responsible for planning the massacre.[/b] According to George Jonas in [u]Vengeance: The True Story of an Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team[/u], eight of the 11 men targeted for death were killed. Of the remaining three, one died of natural causes and the other two were assassinated, but it is not known for sure if they were killed by Israeli agents.

[b]The massacre of 11 Israeli athletes was not considered sufficiently serious to merit canceling or postponing the Olympics.[/b]

"Incredibly, they're going on with it," Jim Murray of the Los Angeles Times wrote at the time. "It's almost like having a dance at Dachau."

Eric The(Historical)Hun[>]:)]

THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.........[devil]

However, these events in and around Munich led to the creation of the GSG-9, the Bundesgrenzschutzgruppe 9, which, to this day, is still the best trained, most effective, and most successful non-military anti-terror unit in the world. And they do NOT assume the roles of judge/jury/executioner, all-in-one, like some other outfits I can think of.

Post from Kar98 -

Ah yes, but very good, efficient, and accurate judge/jury/executioners, all-in-one, like the Mossad?

Were the ones they killed not the ones who needed killing?

Didn't the Israeli government ask the civilized nations of Europe, in which these miscreants lived, to arrest and deport them to Israel?

Of course, Israel did. Of course, the Europeans refused!

BTW, isn't your fondest hope that some US Spec Forces non-com acts as judge/jury/executioner on Osama Bin Laden one bright sunny Afghan day?

I know it's my fondest hope!

Eric The(Trial?WeDon'tNeedNoStinkingTrial!)Hun[>]:)]

You tell 'em Hun!

It's NOT part of police work to act as judge and executioner. Unless the police is in service of a totalitarian police state. The Mossad isn't "effective", they are merely ruthless and barbaric.



"Wirrrr muessen diese Kreaturrren ausrrrotten! They need killing!" Ring a bell?



Source please.



No. It's my fondest hope that some US Spec Force or other will get that little raghead and bring him over hear to be tried in Hogdrool, Alabama. THEN we'll hang him.

...and his liaison officers from his old Company days....and everybody who made money by dealing with him...

Dude,

What the fuck over?  Those were just innocent olympic athletes!  Those fucking pussies can't raise a real army and fight like men.  No, they gotta take unarmed innocent people hostage.  They deserved to get their fucking balls shoved straight up their asses.  Jury my ass, fuck the legal system it's full of Goddamned liberal asshole lawyers who will get anyone off if they can.  I say cap their fucking asses right there and save everyone alot of heartache.  What are you talking about judge, jury, executioner?  Was there any doubt about whether these fucko's were guilty or not?  NO!  SO FUCK THEM! They signed their own death warrant's when they did that sissy ass taking hostages shit.


ROCK ON!

[url]http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/cntrl10_trials.htm#Einsatzgruppen[/url]

The Einsatzgruppen were special units of the SS, of which there were four, numbering approximately 3000 personnel, whose tasks included the murder of members of specifically targeted groups in conquered areas of the USSR. These groups included political commissars of the USSR and other state functionaries, Jews, Gypsies, partisans, prisoners of war, and anyone resisting German occupation policies and demands.

And you compare the Einsatzgruppen to units assigned to take out KNOWN killers of innocent civilians?????  Whatever.

I think that what Kar98 is saying is that the adoption of these type of tactics makes us no better than these terrorists and/or permission of this manner in rectifying "crimes" could bite any one who posts here squarely in the ass, Hun included.

Half the (Ithoughtlawyersshouldknowbetter) cocked

A unit of the GSG9 was charged of illegal murder in Koln. Witnesses reported to the Bundspolizei that men of the GSG9 in a undercover action killed with cold blood a terrorist member of the [i]Rote Armee Fraktion[/i].

[url]http://www.terrorism.com/terrorism/GSG9.shtml[/url]

Can you tell me where do you take your infos?

[i]"... US wants Usama bin Laden brought to justice dead or alive. Preferably dead..." D. Rumsfeld, US. Defence Secretary[/i]

You are right.

You don't seem to understand that this isn't police work. "Police" don't track terrorists across international borders. Terrorists don't have any rights, since they operate outside both civil and military law. They don't have to be captured, tried fairly, and sentenced if found guilty. It's perfectly acceptable to kill them out of hand, and this is what should be done so you don't get [b]other[/b] terrorists taking hostages to get their imprisoned friends released. Sure, dead terrorists may be seen as martyrs to the cause, but nobody's ever hijacked an airliner to get a martyr released!

Kar98, the Mossad ain't the FBI, it's the CIA.  The CIA doesn't have to operate by American domestic laws when they are conducting missions in other countries.  Neither does the Mossad.

I do not pull them out of my ass. Where exactly do you see "unit of the GSG9 was charged of illegal murder in Koln"? Nobody was charged with murder, the only thing remotely related to your accusations were investigations against $GSG9-Unit, where it was found that Grams had indeed died during a gun battle at a train station.
Some socialists were bleating about how "Genosse Grams was murdered by the capitalist pigs" or some such nonsense.

/Of course/ terrorists should be captured and put away, one way or other, but unless your /modus operandi/ follows certain basic rules, you're not better than the terrorists themselves. Firing rockets into a passenger car because you /assume/ one of the passengers /might/ be a person /suspected/ of terrorism, that's barbarian behavior.

Besides, even in the classic, perfect example of a totalitarian police state, the 3rd Reich, terrorists/freedom fighters managed to explode a bomb in Hitler's HQ Wolfsschanze. You want to prevent such things, you gotta be even more ruthless than the Nazis of the 3rd Reich. Is this what you have in mind as your ideal state?

I made neither claim. I merely commented on the supposed efficiency of said Mossad.

Kar98 you seem so familiar, have you been here before? like -10 ago.......How come all the thugs and miscreants have low post numbers? Did you ever just wonder?

Apparently you do because I have yet to see one link to your purported "facts".

Check your premise folks.

You're saying it's ok for government sanction goons to just pop someone with out a trial?

What if it were to happen here in the US of A.

Oh, wait. It has, at Ruby Ridge and Waco.  Then everyone of you were on the other side of the fence.  I believe the word that describes this condition is hypocrite.

Scroll up. I posted a few. Which of "my purported" facts needs backing up?

hrhs :P

While the Palestinians deserved their fate for the events at Munich, let's remember that the assassination team killed an innocent, palestinian waiter who was waiting for his wife and daughter to pick him up at a bus stop.  They thought he was one of the Black September targets and MG'd him down.  The MOSSAD agents were arrested in their hotel and became an embarassment to Israel.  I believe this happened in Sweden.

[i]Miscreant:
1 : INFIDEL, HERETIC
2 : one who behaves viciously[/i]

Awww, was the infidel mean to you?

[i]Thug:
a brutal ruffian or assassin : GANGSTER, KILLER[/i]

Now what exactly do you base /that/ accusation on?

You posted a link to the Nuremberg trials for the Nazi pig mass murderers of innocent civilians.  I still don't see how you equate the Mossad or any other Israeli unit tracking down known murderers to anything the 3rd Reich ever did unless you consider known murderers to innocent civilians.  I suppose that in the view of some, the Palestinians are all innocent civilians who have done nothing wrong.  I still see no link to support your facts, all of which need backing up because I see no relation yet except, perhaps, a hatred for Israel.

[url]http://www.tehelka.com/channels/commentary/2001/july/28/com072801Michael.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html[/url]

[url]http://www.oneworld.org/ni/issue199/holocaust.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.mediamonitors.net/edna5.html[/url]

...

tbc

[url]http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/11/03/israeli_arabs/?CP=SAL&DN=110[/url]

[url]http://www.jeffsarchive.com/israel/Apartheid%20Laws%20in%20Israel.html[/url]


[url]http://www.adl.org/durban/draft.asp[/url]

...

tbc

To which Kar98 replies.......


Hmmmm!  Seems Kar98 has supplied links, LARRYG!  But watch out for that adl.org one!  It might be one of those "Arabist/Wahibist" sources that Eric's always ranting about! [:P]

DaMan

Do you mean Salon magazine?  You have got to be fucking kidding me.  That is one of the most elitest liberal fucking mags I have ever seen in my entire life, I wouldn't wipe the ass of my worst enemy with that fucking piece of shit rag.  BTW it sounds like someone here really dosn't like the Jews, and knows an awful lot about Germany.  In fact he might even have a German name.  I saw this peticular person post similar statments about Jews in another topic about the destruction of an Israeli tank.  I hope this someone is not a Fucking [size=6]NAZI![/size=6]

You be the judge!

Duh! That's why I posted links from the complete political spectrum, left, right and center, including Pro-Arab and Pro-Israeli pages, to show that I am NOT...





Knows about Germany, knows German, might have a German name....MUST be a Nazi, but of course.
(Or some people might have enjoyed a better education than you did.)
You know, I heard that stupid remark since I was 5 (that's FIVE), it doesn't really bother me. You gotta come up with something better than that, if you want to insult me.
Besides, it seems you might have some teeny-weeny problems as far as understanding written text is concerned. I thought I've made it pretty clear in previous posts of mine, both in this thread and in others, that I feel nothing but contempt for totalitarian and/or police states of ANY kind.

With kind regards

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7.62...  I know you're serious but I can't help but LOL.  Sorry dude.  I'm with you 100% though. BTW, I think you mean what's cover for 7.62 is concealment for a M2 shooting .50 BMG. [;)]

Close -- it was Norway, and the waiter was Algerian, not Palestinian.  And I believe that the Israelis used .22 pistols, not automatic weapons.
[url]http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/971129/1997112917.html[/url]

Listen here BUTTNUT, you got caught slammin' Jews in other post here at AR-15.com and you just got here.  WTF do you think people are going to think, I don't know what you think your saying but your coming across as an Arab loving ASS.  Do you realize that the time you spent reading that Goddamned CAT TURD of a Fucking Rag was time you will never get back.  The mere fact that you quoted that Communist pile of shit kills your credibility with 90% of the people here.  Do you actually give one ounce of merit or credit to anything that ASS TRASH TURD BURGLIN' FAGGOT ASS PUDDLE OF BALL SWEAT magazine prints.  If you like I can SHIT on some paper and you can read that, you might learn more.  I never called you a NAZI, you just asumed I was talking about you HIMMLER!






SO [size=6]FAH-Q![/size=6]

7_62Gunner, our "poet laureate of the four letter word", has spoken!  His ability to present a logical arguement is only surpassed by his eloquence!  [:P]

DaMan  

7.62, how eloquent alright! You must be a recent Govt run school grad! Congratulations on your inability to read! I just went back over this, and dammed if I can find anything kar98 said that was anti-jewish! You slam salon, and liberals, but use the NAZI word just like they do! I particularly like it when you say kar98 is "coming across as an Arab loving ASS." When what he WROTE on the subject was "It's my fondest hope that some US Spec Force or other will get that little raghead and bring him over hear to be tried in Hogdrool, Alabama. THEN we'll hang him." Notice, unlike you and the NAZIS you mention, kar98 mentions "to be tried"! Your use of the english language is surpassed only by your ignorance......
 7.62
some poetry for you

[img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/liberty86%2Fasshole%2520%281%29%2Ejpg[/img]

A Good Point....

Hey! WTF is your deal dude?  I notice you been following Kar 98 around and licking his scrotum every chance you get.  You do it here and in the post about the Munich Olympics.  He must really give good head for you to be tonguen' his bung hole the way you do.  When you come up with an original thought you can speak, see you later SNOWBALLER!

He was over spewing his anti-semite crap in the topic about the tank being blown up in GAZA.  So you must have graduated from the school for the blind cause you didn't see that shit did you?  Brought to justice?  That dumb ass, leftist, we need to be the worlds police crap, trying to bring these dicks to "JUSTICE" aint going to fly with me.  Just fucking kill these assholes damn!  It sound to me as though you like liberals, can I see you PETA card?

I think liberty86 said it best! [:P] DaMan

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Jeez 7.62, for someone who tries to be such a great American Patriot, you are quick to throw out OUR Constitution! Who said anything about worlds cop? Or did you forget that 9/11 was a crime committed on US soil?

[b][/b]

Does the term "Due Process" ring a bell? I Like liberals? Check my profile......Actually 7.62, if anyone here is a liberal, IT"S YOU! They too want to trash our Constitutional Republic. They also argue like you do, DISTORTIONS & NAME-CALLING, not facts.......