Posted: 10/25/2009 9:45:41 PM EDT
Is the FN as dependable and accurate as an AR? Has there been any issues with them? I remember hearing about some problems with an FN product, but don't remember which model it was. How is the trigger feel for a bullpup? Do they function well with a supressor? I am thinking of buying a FS2000 or trading a Polytech AK Legend for one. I have ARs and AKs already and I want to try something a little different. All input appreciated.
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If you want something a little different, there's nothing wrong with that. I'd love to get one eventually after getting everything else I want. I have a long list of wants. However, I think if you're looking to replace an AR with an FS2k in a SHTF scenario is a bad idea.
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags.
The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. |
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags. The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. Haven't seen the Emag, have ya? |
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags. The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. Haven't seen the Emag, have ya? Has a lip in the magwell, perhaps the E-mag does work in the FS2000. First I've heard if it does. |
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They are not bad rifles. They have come down in price and they now offer a front rail to get rid of the bulky front grip.
Some country's are using them as their issued rifles. You might also want to try an AUG type rifle as well. The MSAR STG556 is pretty nice. Max |
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags. The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. Haven't seen the Emag, have ya? Has a lip in the magwell, perhaps the E-mag does work in the FS2000. First I've heard if it does. The EMAG is designed with the "E uropean" weapons that use the M16/AR15 mags but will not accomodate PMAGS. Is the STG-556 somewhat proven yet? I have never seen one in person. Is the balance close to the AUG? Looks that way. |
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags. The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. Haven't seen the Emag, have ya? Has a lip in the magwell, perhaps the E-mag does work in the FS2000. First I've heard if it does. The EMAG is designed with the "E uropean" weapons that use the M16/AR15 mags but will not accomodate PMAGS. Is the STG-556 somewhat proven yet? I have never seen one in person. Is the balance close to the AUG? Looks that way. I have shot a Steyr not an MSAR have fingered them. Weight seems to be balanced toward the shoulder. I'd rather have a Tavor or FAMAS G2 but that is not an option. 
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| I was reading in another forum, a dude kept one for home defense, and some gang members started to have a good time near his property he went and grabbed his FS2000 and without realizing it pulled the charging handle so hard it broke off (its also polymer) he had to jam a screw driver into the mechanism to charge the rifle. The parts also took a month to get from FN |
| The charging handle thing is kinda common, never happened to mine though. Most are cosmetic breaks only. FNH is usually super good w/ fixin' their stuff. I love mine, hope to get the front rail soon. My BIGGEST complaint, hands down, is that you don't know when it's empty like an AR. Bolt Hold Open is super sweet. |
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Will not work with polymer or orlite mags. The extraction system would worry me after/during prolonged use or inconsistent cleaning. Irons are close together. 1.6X optic doesn't excite me either. $2000+ price tag. To any owners how does the FS2000 do with Wolf/Barnaul???? I'd go MSAR instead, use the savings to buy mags. Or get a Galil, VZ-58, and spare handgun and mags for the same money like I did. Haven't seen the Emag, have ya? Has a lip in the magwell, perhaps the E-mag does work in the FS2000. First I've heard if it does. The EMAG is designed with the "E uropean" weapons that use the M16/AR15 mags but will not accomodate PMAGS. Is the STG-556 somewhat proven yet? I have never seen one in person. Is the balance close to the AUG? Looks that way. I have shot a Steyr not an MSAR have fingered them. Weight seems to be balanced toward the shoulder. I'd rather have a Tavor or FAMAS G2 but that is not an option.
If Magpul could market their PDR that would be ideal, IMO. It looks way better than a PS90 (which I think looks pretty damn cool) and fires a superior cartridge, 5.56. Unfortunately, it is vaporware. 
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I had one and sold it. It was great. Never ever a failure w/ any ammo including russian.
The quality and quality control is probably on Par w/ Colt or BCM. I would not know what to do if it had a stoppage? The changing handle thing is a weak point. They will probably come up w/ a good fix for it. They are pretty good about making people send them their guns so they can learn about problems as they fix them & refine the design. It handles great as long as you keep it light in the front. The OAL is about like a deployed 10.5" AR. Easier on the ears than a 10.5" Works great w/ cans b/c the 16" plus barrel. Accuracy is on par w/ a quality chrome bore AR. Trigger pull sux. You can replace one or both springs, or maybe take one out & it is a lot better. |
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The changing handle thing is a weak point. They will probably come up w/ a good fix for it. They are pretty good about making people send them their guns so they can learn about problems as they fix them & refine the design. Nothing better than charging people $2000 to beta test and field their products, that's better than free R&D. The PS90 is a much more robust platform since it has been fielded/used by .GOV for a good 11 years as the P90 before they sold it to the civilian market. OTOH, the FS2000 has seen action by the Republic of Slovenia. |
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I've seen F2Ks for $1500 now. I have one - trigger pull sucks. Reliable but if I had a malfunction, I'd bust out a knife and a screwdriver to clear it. Mine has never been fired with factory ammo and runs great! About as accurate as a 16" AR aside from the trigger pull. An AR is easier to manipulate. I bought the FS because I didn't want to shell out the same amount for a clone. |
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I have both the FS2000 w/ factory optic, and the STG556 Gen 4.
Shouldering the FS2000 is like hugging a fat chick, just feels bulky and spongey to me. The STG556 on the other hand fits me like it was made for me. I love them both, but if I had to choose one to carry into combat it would be the STG556. It just fits me better, and there's no overly complicated shell ejection system to worry about.
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Aside from the trigger, which I'm used to anyway, it does EVERYTHING my AR's do, but better.
In a SHTF type scenario, I would grab my AR's. Although the FS2000 will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it, I still worry about long term reliability when it comes to wear on parts and replacing them. I have the Standard, 1.6x optic and the glass is extremely nice, 1.6x works great with the function of the gun. If you are looking to add to your collection, DO IT. And don't be surprised if you find yourself leaving your other guns in the safe and only bringing out the FS2000. |
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I have both the FS2000 w/ factory optic, and the STG556 Gen 4. Shouldering the FS2000 is like hugging a fat chick, just feels bulky and spongey to me. The STG556 on the other hand fits me like it was made for me. I love them both, but if I had to choose one to carry into combat it would be the STG556. It just fits me better, and there's no overly complicated shell ejection system to worry about.
It's obviously an opinion thing, but I never got the "fat chick" analogy when it comes to the FS2000. It's perfectly ergonomic as well as balanced. The Aug (and their knock-offs) is nice as well, but since this was about the FS2000, which I prefer over them anyway, I'll keep the comparison between the FS2000 and the AR. |
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That goofy plastic cover thing that goes up on the FS2000 ain't gonna fare well in a no bull field environment.
Otherwise, it's a bull pup - what's to like? [I have to admit, I think they're fun to shoot. But that's no measure as I think most firearms are fun.] Accuracy is just okay, adequate for a blaster. |
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I borrowed one from a friend and shot a two gun match with it. If it cost $1,200, it may find its way into my safe.
With an 18" barrel, it is shorter than a AR in 10.5". Reliability problems were not an issue. It shot my reloaded garbage ans some wolf just fine. Fast mag changes may be an issue. The brass dumping out the front rocks if you want to keep your brass. It comes apart nicely into big non losable chunks. And yes, it is a little bit different, everybody will ask you about it. 
I shot a P-90 this weekend and didn't like it, the FS-2000 wins that one hands down. |
