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10/13/2009 8:44:37 PM EDT
MOTHERFUCKING TAKEDOWN DETENT SPRING AND TAKEDOWN DETENT!

My fucking build was going along swimmingly.  All the rollpins went in fine (with the exception of the motherfucking trigger guard rollpin - my hammer solved that sumbitches problem without fucking breaking a sweat), I got the bolt catch in without fucking up the receiver, I even got the pivot spring and detent in fine.  I'm almost finished.  I'm on the last fucking step.

What do I hear?  *ting*  GOD FUCKING DAMNIT YOU COCK JUGGLING THUNDERCUNT!  THE LAST FUCKING THING I NEEDED ON EARTH WAS A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT 9MM LOWER DECIDING THAT IT NEEDED TO ACT LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING M1 GARAND AND FUCKING PING SHIT OUT OF THE RIFLE!

My dog could sense my fuming rage and she came over and licked my elbow.  All was well.  I figured I could find the spring and be on my way.

I crawled around on my hands and knees like a nickel whore looking for the last hit of crack she dropped.  I was desperate.  FUCK!  30 minutes later I still can't find the motherfucking spring or detent.

The gods laugh at me.
10/13/2009 8:45:43 PM EDT
[#1]
And THAT, is why I don't put together my own lowers.  It's bad for ya!
10/13/2009 8:46:03 PM EDT
[#2]


10/10
10/13/2009 8:46:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.  
10/13/2009 8:48:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Carpet?





Get a magnet and sweep it across every inch like a metal detector. When you hear a faint "click", you will know you found something.





This method has saved me about 15 times so far.

 
10/13/2009 8:48:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Sweep the floor with a stud finder, its like sweeping for tiny mines. Unless you have wood floor boards under the carpet, then you're fooked!
10/13/2009 8:49:03 PM EDT
[#6]
I've got a whole extra LPK that I keep around for such an occasion.  It really takes the sting out of late-night build oopsies, and you can order replacements at your leisure.

10/10
10/13/2009 8:49:08 PM EDT
[#7]


at least your didn't snap one of the ears off your trigger guard




10/13/2009 8:49:48 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Sweep the floor with a stud finder, its like sweeping for tiny mines. Unless you have wood floor boards under the carpet, then you're fooked!


What else would be under the carpet?


 
10/13/2009 8:49:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Carpet?

Get a magnet and sweep it across every inch like a metal detector. When you hear a faint "click", you will know you found something.

This method has saved me about 15 times so far.  


I would but on the CMMG LPK I got the detents are made of plastic
10/13/2009 8:50:19 PM EDT
[#10]
I usually clip about a 1/4" off the spring to make it a little easier to install...
10/13/2009 8:50:25 PM EDT
[#11]
9/10

Nice combos there man...

-1 I wanted more more combos
10/13/2009 8:51:12 PM EDT
[#12]
It happens to everyone.  Welcome to the club
 Now order about 6 extra detents and springs.
10/13/2009 8:51:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sweep the floor with a stud finder, its like sweeping for tiny mines. Unless you have wood floor boards under the carpet, then you're fooked!

What else would be under the carpet?  



My house is concrete slab, foam padding then carpet.
10/13/2009 8:51:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Wait...is this about guns? Cause they are icky, and this is GD.
10/13/2009 8:52:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
It happens to everyone.  Welcome to the club  Now order about 6 extra detents and springs.


Best location to do so?
10/13/2009 8:52:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Carpet?

Get a magnet and sweep it across every inch like a metal detector. When you hear a faint "click", you will know you found something.

This method has saved me about 15 times so far.  


I would but on the CMMG LPK I got the detents are made of plastic




Aint that a bitch!
10/13/2009 8:52:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I forget what it is called, but there's a $2 pin at any hardware store that can fix this. It has holes drilled in it. What the fuck is it called? I have one right here. Makes detent spring installs so much easier.
10/13/2009 8:52:45 PM EDT
[#18]
wow, now that i think of it.. I should of used a damn shim.
10/13/2009 8:52:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Excellent rant. 9/10. Hope you never break an ear off the lower.


10/13/2009 8:53:10 PM EDT
[#20]





Quoted:





Quoted:


It happens to everyone.  Welcome to the club

 Now order about 6 extra detents and springs.






Best location to do so?



I got mine from Area 51 - they are a sponsor here IIRC.  I know they are in the Industry Forum.  



ETA:  http://store.a51tactical.com/





 
10/13/2009 8:53:37 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


Carpet?



Get a magnet and sweep it across every inch like a metal detector. When you hear a faint "click", you will know you found something.



This method has saved me about 15 times so far.  


yep I have a old subwoofer magnet just for this purpose



 
10/13/2009 8:53:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Excellent rant. 9/10. Hope you never break an ear off the lower.


The rant that would come of such an action might melt the interweb and make Al Gore's ears catch on fire.

Fuck, maybe I oughta do it for the common fuckin' good
10/13/2009 8:54:19 PM EDT
[#23]
RANT 10/10
10/13/2009 8:54:20 PM EDT
[#24]
 Detents go flying. Sometimes.

eta: after some spring cleaning vacuuming earlier in the year, my gf found 2 of these "little bullets" in a corner of the living room.
10/13/2009 8:54:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.
10/13/2009 8:55:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.


You just jinxed yourself.

I shall prepare myself for a rant of epic proportions

If not I will piss in your coffee
10/13/2009 8:55:29 PM EDT
[#27]





Quoted:



Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.



Now you did it....Jinxed yourself!  





ETA: Beat by 13 seconds..





 
10/13/2009 8:55:48 PM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Carpet?



Get a magnet and sweep it across every inch like a metal detector. When you hear a faint "click", you will know you found something.



This method has saved me about 15 times so far.  




I would but on the CMMG LPK I got the detents are made of plastic







Well, you can always improvise. Do you have any watercolor paintbrushes in the house? They are plastic, and have nice rounded tips at the ends of the brush handles. You might be able to find one with an appropriate diameter to hold you over until you can order a replacement (and a spare small parts kit to have on hand as well).



Another option could be the tip of a headphones plug, if the diameter is right.



You could try the little brass "follower" from inside the flint spring of a zippo lighter.





IMPROVISE!



Good luck.






 
10/13/2009 8:58:26 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I forget what it is called, but there's a $2 pin at any hardware store that can fix this. It has holes drilled in it. What the fuck is it called? I have one right here. Makes detent spring installs so much easier.



I made my own tool for the front pivot pin. I used an old screw driver, I'll post pics and give details in a sec. brb
10/13/2009 9:01:10 PM EDT
[#30]
If an AR lower gets that kind of rant out of you, I think needlepoint is more your speed.
10/13/2009 9:07:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.

Now you did it....Jinxed yourself!  

ETA: Beat by 13 seconds..
 


Quoted:
Quoted:
Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.


You just jinxed yourself.

I shall prepare myself for a rant of epic proportions

If not I will piss in your coffee



Alright you guys, we'll see. I have a spike's stripped lower and I just ordered a parts kit so when it comes in I'll let you know how it went.

And the thing is, all I ever use are a pocket knife, punch, and needle nose pliers.
10/13/2009 9:09:05 PM EDT
[#32]
brownells with a discount and cheap shipping. no small order fee either iirc.

I have not had any trouble with the takedown parts as they are easy to see when the lower is
not fully assembled. The one I forget about is the buffer retaining pin/spring when I switch or uninstall stocks.
I start twisting off a buffer tube and hear a whap as the buffer retaining pin hits either a wall or the ceiling. I have
done it about 5 times so far and have only lost one pin.
10/13/2009 9:10:14 PM EDT
[#33]
<–––––––– feels your pain





Last lower I assembled was done in my bathroom on white tile floor due to previous experience with
10/13/2009 9:11:33 PM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:


Excellent rant. 9/10. Hope you never break an ear off the lower.



Ya, what satvert said, n' shit.



 
10/13/2009 9:12:32 PM EDT
[#35]
...and man invented the 1 Gallon Ziploc baggy, and it was good.

When I built my (only) AR, I said to myself, "Self, you're going to launch that damn pin across the room.  Work inside a Ziploc baggy."  Holy hell, it saved me a LOT of hunting!  I launched that sucker over and over, but never lost it.  
10/13/2009 9:15:03 PM EDT
[#36]
I read the first sentence.

I know the feeling.

I used a razor blade to hold down that fucking detent, I didn't give a fuck if I cut myself, I WAS NOT LOSING THAT DETENT AGAIN!!!!!!
10/13/2009 9:15:53 PM EDT
[#37]
How in the hell do you guys fuck up assembling a lower so badly?
10/13/2009 9:24:38 PM EDT
[#38]
I feel you 100%. I got a "clevis pin" at home depot that is basically the perfect tool to put it in.
10/13/2009 9:25:05 PM EDT
[#39]
What is the plural of genius? Genii? Well if it is then we got a shitload of Genii on this board. Put a white sheet over your head/build when doing it and if you launch a detent.....it falls right below you. For fucks sake people it is not rocket surgery!
10/13/2009 9:29:54 PM EDT
[#40]
Greatest thread on this site ever was the one that showed how to thread and put a machine screw in to hold that little bugger in place.
10/13/2009 9:32:06 PM EDT
[#41]




Quoted:

Wait...is this about guns? Cause they are icky, and this is GD.




Its ok only airsoft!
10/13/2009 9:32:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Clevis Pin "How To" for the front pivot pin
About 10 posts down

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782&page=14


How'd you lose the takedown detent?
10/13/2009 9:33:34 PM EDT
[#43]
1 gallon freezer bag.....
10/13/2009 9:35:52 PM EDT
[#44]




Great Rant  



10/10 because I can relate when something goes ping... with a brief pause of disbelief, wide-eyed Dinner Plates, then the OH FUCK ME GOD DAMN IT attitude.  
10/13/2009 9:36:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Some of us learned the hard way.
10/13/2009 9:36:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Turn off the lights, get a good flashlight and put it on the floor pointed in the direction you think it may be. Turn the light on.

It works really well on a hard floor but not quite as well on a carpet.



eta And it also makes you want to clean your floors.


10/13/2009 10:00:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Clevis Pin "How To" for the front pivot pin
About 10 posts down

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782&page=14


How'd you lose the takedown detent?



The clevis pin tool works good, I was going to post a pic of the one I made but I CAN'T FIND MY FUCKING BLUE CUNT SPERM BURPING TOOL BOX!!!!!


Here's a pic of one I started for a friend that was still on my work bench. After you drill the hole cut off the end so its nice and flat. Push the spring and detent through the hole using a punch, rotate the tool 90 degrees until the spring & detent are no longer exposed or jumping through the hole, push in take down pin as you pull out the tool. It will snap in and your stress level should be reduced by 50 points
10/13/2009 10:17:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sorry, can't commiserate. Never had a problem with 6 lowers.


You just jinxed yourself.

I shall prepare myself for a rant of epic proportions

If not I will piss in your coffee


Lol.
10/13/2009 10:22:29 PM EDT
[#49]
I put an ACE stock on my AR recently,didn't lose anything but came close-til I discovered that if you take those offending springs and bend the ends a bit,not too much just a slight bit,it'll help hold them down.
 
10/13/2009 11:39:14 PM EDT
[#50]
In case you are interested. You can actually make a temporary pin from a piece of metal coat hanger and use a spring from a standard size bic for spring.
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