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Posted: 2/13/2002 6:44:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 2:51:44 PM EDT by unclestu]
Update: The anti's are working hard to get their numbers up. Please continue to help and get the word out. ----------- KOMU News, in Columbia, MO, has a morning daily e-poll. Several legislators have commented how, even though this is not scientific, they review the poll results to get a feel of public opinion. This morning the poll question is "Do you believe Missourians should be allowed to carry concealed weapons?" The anti's have already jumped on this. Please help by going to www.komu.com and click on the e-poll link to vote. Mods- could you tack this up until tomorrow morning? Thank you.
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Link Posted: 2/13/2002 6:46:59 AM EDT
Yes. 49% - 47%. The rest is "Maybe".
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Link Posted: 2/13/2002 6:52:13 AM EDT
yes, 53% no, 44% maybe, 3% total votes 107 a dozen or so people could have a significant effect on the result here. vote!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 6:54:48 AM EDT
yes 57% no 41% maybe 3% total votes 115
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 6:58:34 AM EDT
I voted unclestu. I've fwd'ed the info to a Second Amendment Coalition of MO volunteer. You know, if the NRA hadn't gotten involved in our business - - the CCW issue in MO would not have been put up on a ballot issue that lead to that disasterous statewide vote. We should never put out rights up to a vote. Now we face an uphill battle every year.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:00:16 AM EDT
Done. 67% yes.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:02:48 AM EDT
Ric from michigan here, Just posted a link of the poll on one of our states strongest suppoerters of CCW. Hopefully we can get another 100 yes votes for ya! Regards, Ric
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:05:14 AM EDT
I voted, bud. Yes: 66% No: 32% Maybe: 2% Total Votes: 145 Guys, keep the votes going!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:09:41 AM EDT
Done.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:11:54 AM EDT
[b]DONE[/b] We're kicking their asses now! 73% yes!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:16:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 7:17:52 AM EDT by Capro]
I get 425 HTTP Error when I try to go there. Nevermind, 81% now.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:18:42 AM EDT
Voted. 83% for yes! Av.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:20:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:27:30 AM EDT
95% to 5% now. Total Votes: 1032
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:30:54 AM EDT
Done! Yes: 95% No: 5% 1032 votes!!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:47:11 AM EDT
Thanks to everyone, please keep getting the word out and keep the numbers going up! Ron is right, it is an uphill battle here every year. We need all the help we can get.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:48:23 AM EDT
Still 95% yes! Won't Henry Bowman be excited if Missourians get CCW! Might be sufficient to stop any further unintended consquences! Eric The(Wink,Wink!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:54:04 AM EDT
DONE! Yes: 95% No: 4% Maybe: 1% Total Votes: 1068
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:55:37 AM EDT
Done, YES=95% NO=4% MAYBE=1% Mike
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 7:59:24 AM EDT
unclestu, I posted your topic over on assaultweb also. Just thought I would give you a heads up if you were to read it and it sounded the same. We REALLY need CCW to pass in Missouri! I am a LEO and I think CCW is a great thing! medcop
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:05:22 AM EDT
Done
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:09:27 AM EDT
Done. Still 95% yes with 1144 votes.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:14:49 AM EDT
Done. 95% yes 5% no 1% maybe 1148 votes
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:22:35 AM EDT
Done. Good luck Mi!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:25:30 AM EDT
Yes:95%---No:5%---Maybe:1% Total Votes: 1158
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:37:04 AM EDT
1178. 95% yes, 4% no, 1% don't know.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 9:41:03 AM EDT
95-4-1 More Texans helping out where we can. Just make sure they recognize a Texas permit when you do.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 10:18:17 AM EDT
Done. Vote #1212 95% Yes 5% No 1% Maybe
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 10:59:16 AM EDT
Done Did It Too
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 11:08:02 AM EDT
My vote's in. Interesting percent totals, however. 95% Yes 5% No 1% Don't Know ___ 101% ====
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 11:17:44 AM EDT
Done. 95% yes. Hope this gets passed. As a former Missourian, some of the things that go on back there embarass me. CCW passing would certainly help me regain my pride. Will be taking my AZ CCW class this weekend, and I hope that if MO passes CCW, they get a reciprocity agreement with AZ, so I can LEGALLY pack when I visit the family.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:07:17 PM EDT
29% Yes 71% No
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:09:17 PM EDT
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED HERE? It is now: 31% yes 69% no 0 % maybe 4004 votes [pissed] St. Louis Bob
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:13:46 PM EDT
Either 3000 people voted no in the last hour or the results were rigged by the media outlet that wants to report on this. Someone local should call a competing TV station and report that their competitors are running rigged polls.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:14:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 12:16:50 PM EDT by geezhound]
I don't know who got a hold of this poll but it's now heavily in favor of NO! 29% yes 71% no 0% maybe
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:15:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:18:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 12:20:01 PM EDT by medcop]
Okay...this is messed up. How can in an hours time 3000 people vote..and most if not all of them would have to vote NO. The percentage chagned from 101% to 100% also. I think something is messed up here....could KOMU be changing the pole to reflect some soccor mom who runs the web page? It took almost the first 8 hours for 1000 people to vote. The poll shows that 3000 people voted have voted in less than 1 hour! Could someone who knows more about computers answer this: Could it be possible for one person to vote several times? I was only able to vote once. How hard would it be to do this? Could this have been done in an hours time to change the results so much? medcop
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:34:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 12:36:14 PM EDT by lurker]
Originally Posted By medcop: Okay...this is messed up. How can in an hours time 3000 people vote..and most if not all of them would have to vote NO. The percentage chagned from 101% to 100% also. I think something is messed up here....could KOMU be changing the pole to reflect some soccor mom who runs the web page? It took almost the first 8 hours for 1000 people to vote. The poll shows that 3000 people voted have voted in less than 1 hour! Could someone who knows more about computers answer this: Could it be possible for one person to vote several times? I was only able to vote once. How hard would it be to do this? Could this have been done in an hours time to change the results so much? medcop
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looks like something interesting happened between 3:17 and 4:07. if you have access to the computer, you can make it say whatever you want. it's not letting me vote again, not that i would ever consider cheating. we've done our part, now it's up to the others.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:54:55 PM EDT
I guess they didn't like the real numbers so whoever runs that site just changed it to reflect what they want. Smells like bullshit to me.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 12:57:18 PM EDT
done...
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 1:03:50 PM EDT
I voted this morning, when it was 95% yes with 1152 votes. I just voted again from another computer behind the same proxy server. I'm guessing that if you clear out your cookies, of find the individual cookie, you can vote as many times as you please.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 1:05:20 PM EDT
63 for, 37 against, 8096 votes. 1st 8 hours, 1000 votes 9th hour, 3000 new votes last 1/2 hour, 4000 more votes! i cant wait to see what this looks like tomorrow!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 1:35:20 PM EDT
Yes 66% No 34% R35
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 2:48:47 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone who has helped. Please keep this up and get the word out to others.
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 2:53:41 PM EDT
Done! Keep At it!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 4:27:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SomeGuyInAHat: I voted this morning, when it was 95% yes with 1152 votes. I just voted again from another computer behind the same proxy server. I'm guessing that if you clear out your cookies, of find the individual cookie, you can vote as many times as you please.
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Bingo. When running a web poll, there can be no checking...or a cookie can be placed to prevent the majority from voting more than once. It is also possible to run a database to log each and every IP which is more secure on getting real numbers for the vote, but that would lock out potential voters behind a proxy. So most polls use the cookie feature. I'd say that if you cleared your cookies or even opened up a different brand of browser (IE, Netscape, Opera, Mozilla, etc.) they all store their cookies in their own file, so it is possible for either side to cheat on the poll. 58% - yes 42% - no 0% - maybe Total votes: 12314
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 4:57:18 PM EDT
Done. Yes: 62%
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 5:29:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2002 5:32:13 PM EDT by AeroE]
Link Posted: 2/13/2002 5:38:49 PM EDT
Done. 63 percent yes, 37 percent no. [img]http://www.komu.com/e-poll/body_e-poll.html[/img]
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