[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Chernobyl disaster (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 10/1/2009 6:35:18 AM EDT
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I was watching a show called Destination Truth last night and they visited the town of Pripyat. They had all this radiation gear one and my first thought was "No way in hell i'd do that"
Anyway, I hadn't heard of this disaster before and started looking into it. I'm curious to hear from members here that remember it. I was 6 at the time, so if I did hear about it I don't remember anything. Got a lot of information on what happened, but I also like to hear personal accounts. Was there concern about the fallout reaching the US? Did it cause any type of panic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster ETA: For all the people who can't believe i'm just finding out about this, when I was younger I could have cared less. Maybe I was told maybe not, it doesn't matter, I don't remember anyhting about it. The key thing that is important is that I am making an effort to become informed. ETA2: I grew up in a house where my dad refused to pay for cable. So unless there was a lot of coverage on the local news networks its possible I never saw it. At age 6 I was more conerned with cartoons and playing outside than workd issues. |
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Lots of folks in Europe were concerned (rightfully so), but I don't remember any serious concern about fallout here.
You can actually take tours of Pripyat now, I saw a site a while ago with a bunch of pictures he took while walking around there. They didn't have to wear protective geat (I think they had those badges that change color to indicate if you're fucked though), and were told things like "don't sit on the ground" and "don't eat anything, even if you brought it with you". They were also only there for a couple of hours. |
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Quoted: I feel old.  It surprises me every day how little people know/remember of the past. OP, there was a thread on it in the archives. LOTS of pics, and alot of informed posting. Ill see if I can find it. ETA: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=848927&page=1 |
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You are not born with knowledge of the past, at least he's trying to learn about it.
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It surprises me every day how little people know/remember of the past. OP, there was a thread on it in the archives. LOTS of pics, and alot of informed posting. Ill see if I can find it. ETA: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=848927&page=1 |
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That looks pretty good. I have watched a few different documentaries on Chernobyl |
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Great video so far. |
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It was a huge problem in Europe where the fallout caused them to destroy contaminated crops and herds of animals. We still do not know what the long term will bring.
The history channel goes there for the " world without people" series to show what happens when we just disappear. Nature has taken over. |
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Quoted: You are not born with knowledge of the past, at least he's trying to learn about it. Quoted: Quoted: I feel old. It surprises me every day how little people know/remember of the past. OP, there was a thread on it in the archives. LOTS of pics, and alot of informed posting. Ill see if I can find it. ETA: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=848927&page=1 Oh i understand that. I am surprised that he was not taught about the event. |
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It surprises me every day how little people know/remember of the past. OP, there was a thread on it in the archives. LOTS of pics, and alot of informed posting. Ill see if I can find it. ETA: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=848927&page=1 Amen. |
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This chic rides her motorcycle all through the area for kicks. http://www.kiddofspeed.com/ |
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Quoted: Isn't that the city that was the basis for a lot of the scenes for Call of Duty 4? Some scenes. Goto some of the links others have provided, you will see. ETA: Go to the archive thread I linked as well. There is ALOT of informed posters talking about the event, and how reactors work. |
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Wasnt that debunked? |
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Speaking of......
I once saw a pic snapped in Pripyat, I think, that showed the cloud of radiation over Chernobyl shortly after the explosion. I remember it was the eeriest and at the same time most unique cloud I have ever seen. Does anybody know where I can find it?? I have looked for it several times but have never seen it. The cloud looked like steam but it was....shiny...for lack of a better word. |
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Isn't that the city that was the basis for a lot of the scenes for Call of Duty 4? Some scenes. Goto some of the links others have provided, you will see. ETA: Go to the archive thread I linked as well. There is ALOT of informed posters talking about the event, and how reactors work. Checked the thread..it is the city from COD4...heck I even posted in that thread. 
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Anyway, I hadn't heard of this disaster before and started looking into it. WTF, did you grow up in a refrigerator box? I was 8 at the time and I have fond memories of this and the Challenger disaster. Not to mention having read up as much as possible on both of them since. |
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Quoted: I was watching a show called Destination Truth last night and they visited the town of Pripyat. They had all this radiation gear one and my first thought was "No way in hell i'd do that" Anyway, I hadn't heard of this disaster before and started looking into it. I'm curious to hear from members here that remember it. I was 6 at the time, so if I did hear about it I don't remember anything. Got a lot of information on what happened, but I also like to hear personal accounts. Was there concern about the fallout reaching the US? Did it cause any type of panic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster I'm surprised you're just now learning about it. I was only 2 months old at the time and I've known about it for quite some time. There are alot of documentaries on it out there if you look around. I lost all my bookmarks but there's an awesome site/blog where a girl goes through there on a motorcycle and takes a shit ton of pictures. |
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People will never be able to live there again. I is low enough to visit though. The other reactors are still in operation and have been since the meltdown. They operated until 2000, but are shut down now. There were a few old timers who refused to evacuate Prypiat and who still live there to this day. They seem relatively unharmed by the radiation and the area is full of plant and animal life. Overall the effect of the radiation hasn't been near what was expected by the alarmists. The real dangerous areas are close to the plant itself and the graveyard of equipment the first responders used to put out the fire. http://mickhartley.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451ebab69e20112796f4e8728a4-550wi |
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I remember when it happened. The sarcophagus encasing the reactor core was hastily constructed and is feared to be crumbling, at some point they are going to have to go in and work on that thing again. the current containment wont hold. I remember seeing the live footage from the helos on the news. All those guys in the lead aprons and protective masks shoveling stuff on the roof were dead in less than 24 hours IIRC. The called them "Biorobots" but they were condemned men. 
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I was watching a show called Destination Truth last night and they visited the town of Pripyat. They had all this radiation gear one and my first thought was "No way in hell i'd do that" Anyway, I hadn't heard of this disaster before and started looking into it. I'm curious to hear from members here that remember it. I was 6 at the time, so if I did hear about it I don't remember anything. Got a lot of information on what happened, but I also like to hear personal accounts. Was there concern about the fallout reaching the US? Did it cause any type of panic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster I'm surprised you're just now learning about it. I was only 2 months old at the time and I've known about it for quite some time. There are alot of documentaries on it out there if you look around. I lost all my bookmarks but there's an awesome site/blog where a girl goes through there on a motorcycle and takes a shit ton of pictures. The images are here at http://www.kiddofspeed.com/ The pics were good but the motorcycle tour part was a hoax - turns out she took an organized tour and then added the bike pictures later. Excellent images though. |
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Inside the Scarcophagus
This is an excelent BBC/UK documentary following the scientists tasked with crawling through Cheyrnobyl's basement, looking for the melted puddle of reactor fuel. They had to find out if it was still molten, and if it was burning/melting it's way through the bottom of the complex into the earth or not, or if it could explode again, re-seeding the area with a fresh bout of contamination. They'd be in one corridor, measuring 1 Rontengen/hr which is tolerable (although you'd max your permissable YEARLY allowance for exposure due to nuclear work by western standards in two hours...), turn a corner, and it woud be 500 Rontengens, which is fatal in a few minutes. 
Major... pucker... factor. 
I remember seeing the live footage from the helos on the news. All those guys in the lead aprons and protective masks shoveling stuff on the roof were dead in less than 24 hours IIRC.
The called them "Biorobots" but they were condemned men. IIRC, originaly the Red Army let the men work for 10-15 minutes. In my link at about 13:50, you can see the men who were still doing that work years later. Although they were only allowed to do it for one minute, and were required to try and push four 100lb blocks of reactor carbon off the roof in that time, then would never do any radiation work again because they would have exceeded a lifetime dose. |
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No, from a game. |
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I was watching a show called Destination Truth last night and they visited the town of Pripyat. They had all this radiation gear one and my first thought was "No way in hell i'd do that" Anyway, I hadn't heard of this disaster before and started looking into it. I'm curious to hear from members here that remember it. I was 6 at the time, so if I did hear about it I don't remember anything. Got a lot of information on what happened, but I also like to hear personal accounts. Was there concern about the fallout reaching the US? Did it cause any type of panic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster Haha you never heard of it? I was 2 years old at the time...it's the most well known nuclear accident ever. Pretty scary stuff. The problem is, anti-nuclear power hippes can only think of Chernobyl...they don't realize that the Russian plant had serious design flaws that lead to the meltdown. Modern plants can't physically have what happened at Chernobyl happen. Not possible, from what I read. Maybe some DOE people know better. |
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Saw this video on Discovery or Travel, don't remember which. These guys have a pretty interesting show, this is their Chernobyl episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYMZFSDmvDI |
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I was in the Air Force stationed at Bitburg Germany when Chernobyl popped. I've got a distance of 900 miles away in my head, but would have to check that.
It was a very big deal over there. My wife and son stayed inside as much as possible for a couple of weeks. The milk supply was considered contaminated and was destroyed. A lot of crops and livestock were also destroyed. I was told not to give blood because of being there, not sure if that's valid or not but I have not donated blood since. |