[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Anti Hunters... (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 9/30/2009 2:27:14 PM EDT
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So, after a loooong back & forth with an anti on you tube, as well as many past "dicussions" and psych classes, I have learned the following: 1. They hate themselves, 2. They hate you & I, 3. They hate ALL humans, 4. They suffer from Reaction Formation, which means they have very, very violent desires, and they know it is wrong, so they disguise it with excuses of doing it for a good cause. Such as "I want to kill hunters because they kill innocent animals", 5. They are some really sick, twisted individuals, and need psychiatric help. Watch your backs out there, boys & girls; they walk amongst us. And they don't only want our heritage & rights destroyed; they want all human existence destroyed. Here's some choice quotes from the lastest one: As a whole, the human race is worthless. There are many humans who prefer animals over humans. Humans are the most destructive species on the planet and there is nothing you can say or do to prove that I am wrong. I look at the world. I don't see animals destroying it and yet you value human life when humans are the reason why the planet is going to $&#@? Animals are far better creatures. You love to kill for sport, you are a sick person, not me. I see humans for what they are.
Humans like you or strangers I don't know or children, I don't care if all of you get cancer and die slow and horrible deaths and guess what, that is my right to feel like that and you cannot do #$*& about it you @#$&^. I go with the side that doesn't #$^@* the planet up and rape each other and kill each other for sport, the animals. You only care about humans because you are human. You are a typical arrogant worthless and selfish human piece of #%$#. It's funny because you stick up for humans and yet they would not care if you got killed tomorrow. How #^%#ing funny is that. Keep sticking up for a species that causes destruction on the planet and a species that kills animals for sport and a species that kills each other for the stupidest reasons. HAHAHAHAHAH! I look at the world and it tells me how much of a destructive and worthless species us humans are. What planet are you living on? You only care about humans because you are human. You cannot deny humans are *^$#ing this planet up and you want me to think human life is more important than an animal's? Kill yourself. You are a typical human ignorer. Thinking that the human species is a good one and one that it is gonna save the world. You ignore facts and truth. Wake up and face reality. Animals are doing FAR less damage to this planet than animals. Who causes wars? Who were involved in the iraq war where many humans died? Humans you piece of %#$, not animals. Intelligence doesn't mean superiority. A tiger is more superior to you because he can run faster, he is much stronger, and he will rip your throat out. A human like you is a worthless and gutless coward cuz you use a gun to kill animals. Yes I am human but that does not mean I have to give a &*% about other humans just cuz I'm human. You must live in a little bubble. You can't deny all of the horrible things humans do. I hope cancer kills you and everyone you care about. You kill animals for sport and you think I need help cuz I don't give a *^*% for my fellow humans. %$^ off and die. Yup. This is the mind of the anti hunter, i.e. a Reaction Formation disorder sufferer. These are the people that we are up against. If this doesn't make you realize that there is something very wrong with them, then nothing will. So as I said above, watch your backs out there, boys & girls. These people are dangerous & hate all humans... |
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...and I am noticing more and more of them here. Seek out a thread about wolves or mountain lions and the anti hunting arfcommers should smack you in the face as soon as you start reading. Holy crap, that's exactly the type of hunting that he started this about! |
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I'm pagan, I'd rather have a dog around for conversation than a person (mostly), despise animal testing, and would as soon carry a puppy out of a burning building as I would a stranger, but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. Anti-hunters like the guy quoted above might pretend to be "Earth-centric" or "pro-animal" or whatever he wants to consider himself, but he's not. He'd likely have the same reaction of a hyena ripping the head off a young zebra as he would to a hunter shooting an elk - he refuses to admit that outside his little self-created world of happy warm fuzzy things, life keeps rolling, and in order for that to happen, things have to die. Anyone who is truly nature-centric knows that killing animals is necessary - and when humans kill and drive out apex predators, that means we have to take the role of primary predator in order to keep the system balanced. I have never met an anti-hunter who was any less than the absolute epitome of clueless, brainless, closed-minded holier-than-thou patchouli hippie liberalism. |
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...and I am noticing more and more of them here. Seek out a thread about wolves or mountain lions and the anti hunting arfcommers should smack you in the face as soon as you start reading. Why only Wolves and Lions? Maybe some people just don't have it in them to see certain animals killed for sport, or have a much higher respect for an animal that can eat you alive. Or maybe its that some people have no problem with hunting for food and have a problem with huge ego's going out and killing animals for fun. There is a difference. |
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Funny that there are 2 totally different class of anti people.
1. Anti firearm people 2. Anti hunt people The worse are the anti hunters. These screwballs can be dangerous. So far, i've converted 3 anti gun people to the otherside. One now actually owns her own shotgun and shoots skeet with me. |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. |
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Quoted:Why only Wolves and Lions? Maybe some people just don't have it in them to see certain animals killed for sport, or have a much higher respect for an animal that can eat you alive. Or maybe its that some people have no problem with hunting for food and have a problem with huge ego's going out and killing animals for fun. There is a difference.
I see where you're coming from. I'm a hunter but will pass on killing a bear. To me, there's no reason to kill a bear. I'm not gonna eat it so, why bother? Same goes for fishing. I pretty much release everything I catch unless i'm looking for a meal. The biggest striped bass I caught to date (35lbs) went back in the drink after a few pictures. |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. uhh..okay..It is when people move into an area and mess up the eco-system. Examples of national parks that have over populations and do not allow hunting to control #'s. Farm land is also an area where native animals must be displaced for human needs and these are also culled. |
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I see where you're coming from. I'm a hunter but will pass on killing a bear. To me, there's no reason to kill a bear. I'm not gonna eat it so, why bother? Same goes for fishing. I pretty much release everything I catch unless i'm looking for a meal. The biggest striped bass I caught to date (35lbs) went back in the drink after a few pictures. Yep. Too many people ASSume that because you don't like the idea of killing apex predators that you're anti-hunting. I've killed a shitload of animals through the years to suddenly be anti-hunting. I am, however, of the opinion that if you kill something, you have an ethical obligation to make use of it. Either dress in its hide, eat its meat or make something with its bones, teeth or antlers, but don't kill something just to kill it "because it's cool." Have some respect. |
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I see where you're coming from. I'm a hunter but will pass on killing a bear. To me, there's no reason to kill a bear. I'm not gonna eat it so, why bother? Same goes for fishing. I pretty much release everything I catch unless i'm looking for a meal. The biggest striped bass I caught to date (35lbs) went back in the drink after a few pictures. Ill hunt bear.....mmmmmmm bear meat... 
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and when humans kill and drive out apex predators, that means we have to take the role of primary predator in order to keep the system balanced. Yes, this is 100% factual. Deer are designed by nature to have high reproductive rates since they are prey. And so it is either you let them be managed by wolves, bears & mt. lions (which is not the best set of animals to have roaming around in our suburbs next to our children!), or you have to manage them with humans doing the hunting, or they will overpopulate & destroy the entire ecosystem. A third choice is to pay professionals to snipe them, but why should the community pay to have them sniped, when hunters instead would pay the community to hunt?! |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Out of control is a strong term. There are places in my state where they have controled hunts every few years because the deer over populate . There is no room for them to expand out . It's all built up around them. |
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I see where you're coming from. I'm a hunter but will pass on killing a bear. To me, there's no reason to kill a bear. I'm not gonna eat it so, why bother? Same goes for fishing. I pretty much release everything I catch unless i'm looking for a meal. The biggest striped bass I caught to date (35lbs) went back in the drink after a few pictures. Yep. Too many people ASSume that because you don't like the idea of killing apex predators that you're anti-hunting. I've killed a shitload of animals through the years to suddenly be anti-hunting. I am, however, of the opinion that if you kill something, you have an ethical obligation to make use of it. Either dress in its hide, eat its meat or make something with its bones, teeth or antlers, but don't kill something just to kill it "because it's cool." Have some respect. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. Some around here have branded me as an anti-hunting PETA-tard....no never mind that I grew up hunting and fishing and love it. They are correct though, that I am a cocky asshole 
As far as the hardcore anti hunters go, I skulk around in a few of their circles just to see what's up and I hope they never get the balls to go along with their mouths. These people actively discuss the idea of killing hunters outright. 
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| I'm the top of the food chain and will kill anything I want and will not apologize for it. We are the apex predator and I'll eat what I want. Hunting and the money it generates has put more game on the hills and set aside more land for public use than any of the Anti organizations put together. They don't like it.....they can suck it. |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. So you are saying that we should bring back extensive quantities of large predators and make sure they live in close proximity to our kids and ourselves? As much as you might try to disagree, we DO control the populations of most larger game animals and predatory ones to boot, especially in close proximity, and since we are the ultimate predator, [yeah so we use artificial improvised weapons, so what] and have changed the environment, [as do MANY animals] and limited the numbers of large predators, without us, many animal populations [deer especially] would overpopulate and either contract a mass disease, [like CWD] or starve due to not enough food in winter. |
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and when humans kill and drive out apex predators, that means we have to take the role of primary predator in order to keep the system balanced. Yes, this is 100% factual. Deer are designed by nature to have high reproductive rates since they are prey. And so it is either you let them be managed by wolves, bears & mt. lions (which is not the best set of animals to have roaming around in our suburbs next to our children!), or you have to manage them with humans doing the hunting, or they will overpopulate & destroy the entire ecosystem. A third choice is to pay professionals to snipe them, but why should the community pay to have them sniped, when hunters instead would pay the community to hunt?! Those predators become a problem anyway when they can't find enough food in the wild. |
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I'm the top of the food chain and will kill anything I want and will not apologize for it. We are the apex predator and I'll eat what I want. Hunting and the money it generates has put more game on the hills and set aside more land for public use than any of the Anti organizations put together. They don't like it.....they can suck it. I present you with exibit A....the exact polar opposite of the radical anti-hunter and just as "special" I imagine if we let folks like you off the leash the wilderness would resemble a giant city park. |
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I see where you're coming from. I'm a hunter but will pass on killing a bear. To me, there's no reason to kill a bear. I'm not gonna eat it so, why bother? Same goes for fishing. I pretty much release everything I catch unless i'm looking for a meal. The biggest striped bass I caught to date (35lbs) went back in the drink after a few pictures. Ill hunt bear.....mmmmmmm bear meat... I agree, I like bear meat if cooked properly  .
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| I'm pro-hunting. The idea of killing things you aren't going to eat or use just seems wasteful to me. So hunting wolves mountain lions elephants zebras and the like just seems like someones excuse to kill shit to me. I hunt deer squirrel elk and rabbit, but I also eat them. I never understand why people feel the need to go out and hunt coyotes or wolves or mountain lions. If they are on your land threatening you you're family or livestock or animals then by all means do what needs to be done. The idea of going out into the woods, into their homes, and killing them for the mere sport of it, seems demented to me. If someone came into your home and you hadn't done shit to them, but they thought it would just be fun to shoot and kill you, I'm sure most of you wouldn't be so fucking smug about it. Although the bunch that thinks that going out and killing shit just because you can, are also the ones who fall asleep at night hoping someone will break into your house so that you can pump them full of buckshot and then run to your computers to post about the "good shoot" and to ask whether or not you should have used the flashlight on your 870. |
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Quoted: Quoted: but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. out of Do some research. Where apex predators are eradicated (most of the world) hunting is necessary to keep prey animals from overpopulating their range and eating themselves into a massive population crash. No good reason? You must be kidding me. The vast majority of hunter-killed animals are used as food. Animals that are not used as food (prairie dogs, coyotes) don't go to waste - their carcasses feed birds, bugs, etc. |
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My dad grew up on an oil camp in South Texas in the 40s and 50s. He was one of those guys that carried his .22 or .410 or whatever to school and left it in the principal's office until school was out. On the way home he'd kill quail. My grandfather was the foreman of the oil refinery. He took his ancient double barrel 12 gauge with him to work every day. Between him and my dad there was usually enough quail for dinner a few times per week. A friend of my grandfather built my dad a .270 from a 1903 Springfield. It's still my dad's hunting rifle. My grandfather used a Winchester lever in .32 Special that he passed down to my uncle. It's still his hunting rifle. My grandfather is 96 and still has his old double barrel. I am not a hunter. Even as a kid I hated sitting in blinds freezing my ass off. I think venison and dove are fucking gross, no matter how you cook it. Whenever I'd kill a deer, my dad and uncle and cousins would whoop and holler and backslap. I just didn't care. I never got a hunter's "rush". I'd shoot a deer and be like "meh, there's a dead deer". As I got older I realized that it wasn't for me. I have no problem killing nuisance animals-dogs, cates, coyotes, pigs, turtles, or whatever simply because I get nothing out of it. It's no different than deer. Every year people invite me to hunt and I always decline. I'm glad you guys enjoy it; you get something out of it. You get the "rush" and you enjoy the meat. I don't and therefore it's not fair to the animal and other hunters that would enjoy it. My oldest son is almost 14 and has asked to hunt deer this year and of course I immediately agreed. He'll use my Winchester 70 .243 I got when I was 13; hell, I think I have the original box of ammo. I'm sure he'll kill a deer and I hope like crazy he loves it. I'll carry a rifle too; probably a Win 94 30-30. If he enjoys it I'll take him every year until I die. If he doesn't, so be it. I have a younger son that might get into it. If not, I'm sure one you guys will have a kid that does. I'm not anti-hunting, I just don't hunt. |
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Sooo, what about the lions in africa that attacked and killed baby cheetah's for no reason? Didn't eat them, just killed them.
Animals take down their prey and swallow them whole, or eat them while they're still alive. They will eat an animal out of extinction if they are able to. Nature controls that most of the time through the food chain, environment, weather, etc. Animals are no better than us as far as the environment goes. They just aren't intelligent enough to care. Next time you talk to them ask them if they're pro choice. Then tell them even elephants mourn their dead young. Like most liberal arguments, it's not that they have warped opinions, its that they are just plain wrong on the facts. |
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I'm not a hunter. But I will happily defend hunters rights, as anti-hunters deserve nothing but stick time. I do occasionally like to go out and shoot a deer every now and then, though. ETA: I was brought up in a family of fudds though, and somehow I wound up a firearm enthusiast. Some may say that I inherited a couple genes from my crazy uncle.  The one who would roll out in a wheel chair with a .50 BMG rifle strapped to it. Fuck I wish I had pictures of that!  Other reports are that he was an owner of some NFA full auto stuff too, but I've never got the chance to see them. |
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Sooo, what about the lions in africa that attached and killed baby cheetah's for no reason? Didn't eat them, just killed them. Animals take down their prey and swallow them whole, or eat them while they're still alive. They will eat an animal out of extinction if they are able to. Nature controls that most of the time through the food chain, environment, weather, etc. Animals are no better than us as far as the environment goes. They just aren't intelligent enough to care. Next time you talk to them ask them if they're pro choice. Then tell them even elephants mourn their dead young. Like most liberal arguments, it's not that they have warped opinions, its that they are just plain wrong on the facts. The lions had a reason....competition. But I see what you are getting at........Anti-hunters seem to have blinders on to the fact that nature is a savage place. |
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Quoted: Quoted: but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. Especially after your lies and antics in the other thread, if you value your time here stop the personal attacks. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. Especially after your lies and antics in the other thread, if you value your time here stop the personal attacks. I'm sorry, lies? Want to point those out for me? |
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Humans are the most destructive species on the planet and there is nothing you can say or do to prove that I am wrong.
Humans are also the most productive species on the planet and there is nothing you can say or do to prove me wrong because the truth is on my side. That would be my response. |
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but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. Especially after your lies and antics in the other thread, if you value your time here stop the personal attacks. I'm sorry, lies? Want to point those out for me?
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. Especially after your lies and antics in the other thread, if you value your time here stop the personal attacks. I'm sorry, lies? Want to point those out for me? Well, maybe you can answer since he evidently isn't going to, because I have no clue what he's talking about. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: but I also hunt, because I enjoy it, and because it is absolutely essential to a properly-functioning ecosystem. So without humans and firearms, the eco-system would be out of control? Gimme a break. This is the ego I speak of. Killing an animal because it threatens you or your lively hood is ok in my opinion. I just have a high respect for animals and couldn't even think of shooting one and saying, hey that was fun, lets kill another for no good reason. Any second now someone will jump out and call me a crazy liberal anti gunner/hunter, the opposite is true. Lovers of animals are not always a crazy liberal. Good job ignoring the rest of my post. Had you bothered reading it, you'd understand what I said, instead of hearing the gurgling of your intestines because your head is shoved so far up your ass. Especially after your lies and antics in the other thread, if you value your time here stop the personal attacks. I'm sorry, lies? Want to point those out for me? Well, maybe you can answer since he evidently isn't going to, because I have no clue what he's talking about. lies about your age and career. Check your thread about getting fired...they made sure to point it out there as well. |