Posted: 9/15/2009 10:13:12 PM EDT
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Im 21, my back hurts SO BAD!
I was doing heavy dumbell presses a while ago and felt a pain in my side/back area. I rested it, felt fine, went to the gym to work back... it came back. I rested 2 weeks, went to the doctor, he told me only thing he could think of was a pulled muscle. Told me just rest, I rested... it healed SLOWLY. I went back to working out, it was just bothering me a little bit. Now my mid/lower spine area is hurting so bad the last week. If I dont lay down it hurts to even sit back in certain chairs. Back pain SUCKS!!!!!!! I even have pain in the back of my neck (this has been a common occurence in the past too) Why is my body always injury prone and always in pain!?! |
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I am contemplating joining the military after I finish college.
But one of the deterrants to me is my damn body always failing me. When I played football I had knee injuries. From weight lifting I always get back injuries. It seems I have real thin ligaments/bones and I always get injured it sucks. I cant even imagine in the military if my body could make it. I have all the athletic ability but my body is so damn delicate. |
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have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Well to be honest im not looking to tone anything. I eat pizza, chocolate, and other crap all the time... yet I still maintain 10% body fat WITH NO CARDIO for years. I am strictly doing it for mass purposes. Deadlifts and Squats are both a staple part of my routine and I have great form with both. So I have no idea why my body acts this way!! My back routine is usually - Pullups, Deadlifts, Bent over rows, Lat pulldowns, and a couple other machines. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... |
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my back is fucked. different pains in different places but one severely. I still do stuff, landscape and play with kids and normal stuff. but in little spurts and lots of pain killers. the only advice i can give that i think everyone will agree with is even if you don't wanna exercise, dont wanna chiropractor, no physical therapy, no surgery....wanna pop pain pills.....okay. but the one thing you should always do is stretch. just a bit, and it'll really help.
i fucking hate it when people say their back was injured cause from then on, its a thorn in the side. take care of it. you'll be okay, just dont pick up that sock or open that door! |
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My back has been fucked ever since gradeschool. Too tall for desk chairs, locker basically inaccessible in time for class so I'd carry around a full backpack all day, and a number of other factors. Adding to that, all of the jobs I've held have been no good for my back. I'm young, and doing things even as simple as dishes or sweeping (with a push brook) for extended periods of time fuck me up You do what you've gotta do |
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I do...when I was about 6 or 7, I fell about 30ft flat onto my back at an after school program...the people in charge dragged me off the playground laid me over a bench and put an ice pack on my back...never even called my parents or anything...my mom was pissed...I still have back issues to this day... |
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My back is fucked. I got crushed when the bunker I was in collapsed on me from a incoming RPG in A-Stan. They said that my lower back is "deformed do to trauma", but all I know is that it fucking hurts everyday. I also suffered a head injury from the same incident, which caused a cyst to form in my Right Temporal Lobe. I am 1 inch shorter then I used to be, I used to be 5ft8in, but I am now 5ft7in. Sometimes the pain is so much that I just stay in bed all day, and it just makes me so stiff. The VA said that they could do surgery on me, but they also said that due to where the injuries are I would have a 50/50 chance that I would be paralyzed after it. I told them I'll take the pain for now then. They give me pain meds, they do help, but they knock me out all day at the same time.
I walk with a limp, it may hurt, but I am walking. I go to PT at the VA, sometimes I think I am getting better, but others it shows that I have a long road ahead. Do to my injuries I have also lost a lot of muscle mass, but I try to keep my strength by doing pool exercises. |
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Im 21, my back hurts SO BAD! Why is my body always injury prone and always in pain!?! I broke mine in 1995, so it's hard for me to say. BTW, Treat your back carefully, once you screw it up REALLY badly, it's never right again. On the other hand, you'll always know when it's going to rain... |
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You're sure you have good form dead lifting and squatting? Because I was sure I had good form when I was in high school through about your age, and I always had back trouble during that period of my life. Turns out I didn't have such great form, and after a few months of doing it Mark Rippetoe's way my back has never felt better. Last week I drilled 700 holes in a concrete floor, no back pain, not even sore. |
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My back is fucked. I got crushed when the bunker I was in collapsed on me from a incoming RPG in A-Stan. They said that my lower back is "deformed do to trauma", but all I know is that it fucking hurts everyday. I also suffered a head injury from the same incident, which caused a cyst to form in my Right Temporal Lobe. I am 1 inch shorter then I used to be, I used to be 5ft8in, but I am now 5ft7in. Sometimes the pain is so much that I just stay in bed all day, and it just makes me so stiff. The VA said that they could do surgery on me, but they also said that due to where the injuries are I would have a 50/50 chance that I would be paralyzed after it. I told them I'll take the pain for now then. They give me pain meds, they do help, but they knock me out all day at the same time. I walk with a limp, it may hurt, but I am walking. I go to PT at the VA, sometimes I think I am getting better, but others it shows that I have a long road ahead. Do to my injuries I have also lost a lot of muscle mass, but I try to keep my strength by doing pool exercises. I was going to post my tales of woe, but all I can say is Thank you for your service, soldier. Godspeed, you're in my prayers. |
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Go to a reputable chiropractor. Most back injuries are muscle injuries, learn to rehab them! Look up Star Rehab Protocol. How's your DL and squat form? I've just gotten over a L4-S1 injury. Took about 2 months of pain but after a bunch of readjustments from the chiropractor, stretching and some back work, it finally went away. I had a similar bout two years ago. When it comes to back pain, doctors are only good for two things, dispensing pills and cutting with a knife. |
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Go to a reputable chiropractor. Most back injuries are muscle injuries, learn to rehab them! Look up Star Rehab Protocol. How's your DL and squat form? I've just gotten over a L4-S1 injury. Took about 2 months of pain but after a bunch of readjustments from the chiropractor, stretching and some back work, it finally went away. I had a similar bout two years ago. When it comes to back pain, doctors are only good for two things, dispensing pills and cutting with a knife. Physical Therapist. Like a chiropractor without the crazy woo or stroke-inducing spinal manipulations. javascript:insertText('  ');
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Quoted: Quoted: Go to a reputable chiropractor. Most back injuries are muscle injuries, learn to rehab them! Look up Star Rehab Protocol. How's your DL and squat form? I've just gotten over a L4-S1 injury. Took about 2 months of pain but after a bunch of readjustments from the chiropractor, stretching and some back work, it finally went away. I had a similar bout two years ago. When it comes to back pain, doctors are only good for two things, dispensing pills and cutting with a knife. Physical Therapist. Like a chiropractor without the crazy woo or stroke-inducing spinal manipulations. Physical therapists are for old ladies. They are worthless for any active person. I've experienced 3 injuries now and have used my chiropractor for all of them and I have comeback stronger. My first injury, I visited 3 doctors, with one being a specialist. All they did was give me pain pills, muscle relaxers, NSAID and SAID's. Finally got tired of having pain, went to the chiro (who also travels with the Virginia Tech football team BTW) and after he manipulated by back and shoulder I was no longer in pain. It isn't crazy woo. |
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I am contemplating joining the military after I finish college. But one of the deterrants to me is my damn body always failing me. When I played football I had knee injuries. From weight lifting I always get back injuries. It seems I have real thin ligaments/bones and I always get injured it sucks. I cant even imagine in the military if my body could make it. I have all the athletic ability but my body is so damn delicate. Please do not join the armed forces. Seriously. Get it out of your head. God forbid that your back goes out, just before you need to drag yourself or someone else to safety. It's possible that you would be more a liability than an asset in a fighting capacity. Maybe go be a cop? |
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Quoted: Quoted: have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Well to be honest im not looking to tone anything. I eat pizza, chocolate, and other crap all the time... yet I still maintain 10% body fat WITH NO CARDIO for years. I am strictly doing it for mass purposes. Deadlifts and Squats are both a staple part of my routine and I have great form with both. So I have no idea why my body acts this way!! My back routine is usually - Pullups, Deadlifts, Bent over rows, Lat pulldowns, and a couple other machines. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... +1 for Mall-Ninja. And not just weight work... stretching too. What's your stretching routine? Yoga FTW! I've been doing Bikram (Hot) Yoga for about 6 months and have been amazed at the improvement in my back in such a short time. |
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I eat pizza, chocolate, and other crap all the time... yet I still maintain 10% body fat WITH NO CARDIO for years. ... Dude your making me laugh....go ahead and keep that diet up until your 40 and see what your body fat is. Thats not what I was getting at... I have been trying to clean up my diet. What I was getting at is I genetically have a hard time putting on fat. I know with age that changes. I was just making a point that I dont workout to "tone". Quoted:
You're sure you have good form dead lifting and squatting? Because I was sure I had good form when I was in high school through about your age, and I always had back trouble during that period of my life. Turns out I didn't have such great form, and after a few months of doing it Mark Rippetoe's way my back has never felt better. Last week I drilled 700 holes in a concrete floor, no back pain, not even sore. Yea.. Im pretty sure I played football for 2 different teams and multiple coaches watched/critiqued my form. They said it was fine, also I am not using a lot more weight than I can lift. Quoted:
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have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Well to be honest im not looking to tone anything. I eat pizza, chocolate, and other crap all the time... yet I still maintain 10% body fat WITH NO CARDIO for years. I am strictly doing it for mass purposes. Deadliftsand Squats are both a staple part of my routine and I have great formwith both. So I have no idea why my body acts this way!! My back routine is usually - Pullups, Deadlifts, Bent over rows, Lat pulldowns, and a couple other machines. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... +1 for Mall-Ninja. And not just weight work... stretching too. What's your stretching routine? Yoga FTW! I've been doing Bikram (Hot) Yoga for about 6 months and have been amazed at the improvement in my back in such a short time. Regarding stretching, I have always been very flexible. The stretches I do now mainly are during the days I workout. I do the common leg stretches to stretch out my calves/hamstrings, also think it stretches out my back. I do about 4-5 different stretches. |
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I am contemplating joining the military after I finish college. But one of the deterrants to me is my damn body always failing me. When I played football I had knee injuries. From weight lifting I always get back injuries. It seems I have real thin ligaments/bones and I always get injured it sucks. I cant even imagine in the military if my body could make it. I have all the athletic ability but my body is so damn delicate. Please do not join the armed forces. Seriously. Get it out of your head. God forbid that your back goes out, just before you need to drag yourself or someone else to safety. It's possible that you would be more a liability than an asset in a fighting capacity. Maybe go be a cop? This scenario would never happen. IF I were to join, and before I did I would make sure to go to a specialized back doctor to make sure that situation would not occur. And I would never become a liability over an asset... unless I was injured due to an enemy. Quoted:
I was having issues with mine, untill I got a new matress (knock on wood) Though if you strained it lifting weights you may need a physical therapist The bed could be a possibility... I am sleeping on a bed that has to be over 20 years old. Not to mention if I dont have a padding underneath the sheets, the mattress is so hard I can feel the springs and literally it hurts to sleep on it. |
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I was having issues with mine, untill I got a new matress (knock on wood) Though if you strained it lifting weights you may need a physical therapist A good mattress makes a huge difference. I haven't had any chronic back pain since I bought one 3 years ago. It wasn't cheap but it's worth it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Go to a reputable chiropractor. Most back injuries are muscle injuries, learn to rehab them! Look up Star Rehab Protocol. How's your DL and squat form? I've just gotten over a L4-S1 injury. Took about 2 months of pain but after a bunch of readjustments from the chiropractor, stretching and some back work, it finally went away. I had a similar bout two years ago. When it comes to back pain, doctors are only good for two things, dispensing pills and cutting with a knife. Physical Therapist. Like a chiropractor without the crazy woo or stroke-inducing spinal manipulations. Physical therapists are for old ladies. They are worthless for any active person. I've experienced 3 injuries now and have used my chiropractor for all of them and I have comeback stronger. My first injury, I visited 3 doctors, with one being a specialist. All they did was give me pain pills, muscle relaxers, NSAID and SAID's. Finally got tired of having pain, went to the chiro (who also travels with the Virginia Tech football team BTW) and after he manipulated by back and shoulder I was no longer in pain. It isn't crazy woo. That has to be one of the most ignorant (excluding the current political debates) comments I have heard in a long time. Maybe I misread your post, but I see nowhere in it where you had knowledge or even personal experience with a good Physical Therapist? Chiropractors have their place and their role in treatment of injuries. There are some extremely intelligent ones that don't subscribe to the "every ailment and disease is the result of misalignment of the spine" theories. However, there are far more fruitloops out there that do high-impact / high velocity manipulations that will loosen your connective tissue around the joint over repeated manipulations resulting in a hypermobile joint, i.e. increase susceptibility to injury. Not all muscle problems are the result of subluxations, and a good chiropractor will tell you that sometimes it is the muscle dysfunction / injury that caused the subluxation... If all you do is manipulate the joint, but don't fix the root cause, you are no better off. Physical therapists play a key role in healing from injury. Any chiropractor that doesn't encourage active physical therapy as a synergistic component of treatment and just wants to "crack" something several times a week is someone you need to stay away from. Saying a PT are worthless for an active person is like saying a strength and conditioning coach is worthless for a pro-athlete... oh, wait, all the pro sports teams have strength and conditioning coaches, usually CSCS. Good physical therapists play an invaluable role in recovery from sports injuries. Good PT's also "adjust" subluxated joints when necessary, they just use different lingo than Chiros and focus more on getting the muscles to work properly to correct the root cause of the problem based on their evaluation and expertise. |
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I eat pizza, chocolate, and other crap all the time... yet I still maintain 10% body fat WITH NO CARDIO for years. ... Dude your making me laugh....go ahead and keep that diet up until your 40 and see what your body fat is. ya no shit! at 35 i blew up! its off now and im in my best shape ever! but its a lot of watching what I eat now.. |
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have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... .....and there is your answer. If you do not work your core as routinely as you would all other muscle groups, you WILL develope back issues. Those core muscles, front, sides, and back support EVERYTHING you do. |
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Well after having surgery to repair 2 ruptured discs in my back, and not giving it enough time to heal correctly I re-injured it, so now I have 2 bulging discs, spinal stenosis, arthritis in the previous surgical site. and some other things I cant remember right off the top of my head. I live with pain every day. I cant sit for periods of time nor can i stand for periods of time, i have pain that shoots down my legs from the nerves being pressed on. Ive been to physical therapy no better, even had the stens electrocution thing, it helps for short periods of time. I cant sleep well at night, hell I cant basically do anything I used to do. I chew on pain pills to get by everyday and somedays I don't think I will make through. So I feel for anyone who has true back issues. |
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have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... .....and there is your answer. If you do not work your core as routinely as you would all other muscle groups, you WILL develope back issues. Those core muscles, front, sides, and back support EVERYTHING you do. Well I figured Deadlifts/Squats are a good enough core workout. Since the core is being used as a stabalizer. |
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have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... .....and there is your answer. If you do not work your core as routinely as you would all other muscle groups, you WILL develope back issues. Those core muscles, front, sides, and back support EVERYTHING you do. Well I figured Deadlifts/Squats are a good enough core workout. Since the core is being used as a stabalizer. You're correct, but that's also the reason to work your core. As you DL and Squat alot of of stress is placed on your core, muscles, and bone structure of the lower back area in particular. I'm also assuming that you're either going up in weight and/or reps/sets. If so you will at one point NEED to dedicate some time to a true core workout as your core will simpy not be able to keep up with the work load because the stabalizing aspect is now no longer enough to keep up with the added workload.......I take this injury as a sign, barring any other unforseen more serious injury, that you've reached the point where just the stabalizing aspect isn't enough.....just one mans opinion, hope it helps you out! RG |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: have you been avoiding back muscle exercises? you need switch off ab work and back work. Go light... you're looking to tone, not build mass. Abs are one muscle I do neglect though... .....and there is your answer. If you do not work your core as routinely as you would all other muscle groups, you WILL develope back issues. Those core muscles, front, sides, and back support EVERYTHING you do. Well I figured Deadlifts/Squats are a good enough core workout. Since the core is being used as a stabalizer. True, you are getting some "core" muscle work when doing deads and squats. However, there are a couple things to consider. One, when heavy loads are placed on the body, the larger muscle groups tend to "take over" and compensate for some of the smaller weaker muscles, so those muscles may not see the same benefit, depending on the exercise, type of resistence used, number of repetitions, etc. Do you wear a "weight belt" when you train? While a great tool, you could be doing more damage than good if you wear it through out the workout. While it is on, all the loads and forces your are subjecting your body to are being impacted by the belt. Meaning, if you have a weaker muscle, say an oblique , than you should based on the weight you are moving, it will not get suffuciently taxed during the exercise to stimulate adaptation. Therefore, it will remain weaker while you continue increasing the amount of weight you are moving as the larger "main" muscle groups get bigger and stronger... i.e. you are setting yourself up for an injury. You might also want to consider the analogy of 1 rep max bench press. You can train "bench press" by itself and improve. But most people will see a markedly better result and bigger strides in their 1RM if they also separately and specifically train the other muscles involved besides chest, i.e. biceps, triceps, lats and delts. So just doing squats or deads will give you some benefit, but not nearly the same as if you specifically trained your core muscles, including abs and lower back on their own. |
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Tweaked my back while doing deadlifts a few months ago.
You don't know what health is until you've lost it. Thankfully it's almost 100% again; still sore from time to time. I'm now deadlifting 50lbs more than when I tweaked my back. Always use good form and you'll be fine. I'm 22. |
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Quoted: It was tongue in cheek. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Go to a reputable chiropractor. Most back injuries are muscle injuries, learn to rehab them! Look up Star Rehab Protocol. How's your DL and squat form? I've just gotten over a L4-S1 injury. Took about 2 months of pain but after a bunch of readjustments from the chiropractor, stretching and some back work, it finally went away. I had a similar bout two years ago. When it comes to back pain, doctors are only good for two things, dispensing pills and cutting with a knife. Physical Therapist. Like a chiropractor without the crazy woo or stroke-inducing spinal manipulations. Physical therapists are for old ladies. They are worthless for any active person. I've experienced 3 injuries now and have used my chiropractor for all of them and I have comeback stronger. My first injury, I visited 3 doctors, with one being a specialist. All they did was give me pain pills, muscle relaxers, NSAID and SAID's. Finally got tired of having pain, went to the chiro (who also travels with the Virginia Tech football team BTW) and after he manipulated by back and shoulder I was no longer in pain. It isn't crazy woo. That has to be one of the most ignorant (excluding the current political debates) comments I have heard in a long time. Maybe I misread your post, but I see nowhere in it where you had knowledge or even personal experience with a good Physical Therapist? |