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8/20/2009 8:28:02 PM EDT
Whole lotta fun!  I finally got to go full auto.  Not only did I get to shoot one, I got to shoot a few quality NFA icons:

Not sure how to make hot (figured it out)
Check it out

8/20/2009 8:29:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Must be nice....

- Clint
8/20/2009 8:32:34 PM EDT
[#2]
The last time I saw a plastic sheet and a man with a gun in a movie, someone got shot!!



Nice shooting, I am definately envious!!!
8/20/2009 8:34:44 PM EDT
[#3]
"Sounds like a winner to me."


8/20/2009 8:38:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Ranking of your favorites?

Of the FA I've fired I'd place them in the following, first blush, highly technical ranking system:

1-M16
2-MP40
3-UZI
4-Tompson (cool but heavy)
5-Sten


Mp5 is next on the list for me to shoot.
8/20/2009 8:42:13 PM EDT
[#5]
G3 must have been a beast on FA.
8/20/2009 8:42:45 PM EDT
[#6]
Hard to say on Favs.  I really like the M16 shorty.  The suppressed is cool too.  I was most accurate with the MP5.  The thompson was a pleasure but heavy.  The G3 made me smile a lot––had some jump to it and ejected brass like 20 yards away but not accurate for me in FA.  The UZI is fun and classic.  I am glad I got to shoot all of them but I guess the M16 is my favorite just because I have ARs.
8/20/2009 8:45:07 PM EDT
[#7]
My favorite all time is the FAL with short barrel. So. Fucking. Awesome.
8/20/2009 8:45:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
G3 must have been a beast on FA.


It is. A real battle rifle doesn't need FA capability at all. A SAW like the BAR would be controllable, but it's extremely heavy and has a low rate of fire.
8/20/2009 8:48:06 PM EDT
[#9]
Shooting different FA guns really shows you what is actually usable and what is cool. The G3's suck on FA and the Thompson, while cool from the movies, is not that great to shoot either. My fave that is halfway common.....the good old M16 in various forms preferably with a beta mag.
8/20/2009 8:51:39 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
G3 must have been a beast on FA.


It is different to day the least but probably my 2nd favorite just because of the power. This one had an metal handguard––after a couple of mags, I had to hold the bipod!

We were shooting 4x4's cut off about a foot long standing up on the hill.  They would fall and rock back when hit.  The M16 would sometimes pass through without knocking them over.  When the G3's 7.62 hit em, they went flying waaaay back!
8/20/2009 10:25:19 PM EDT
[#11]
FA is the WAY

Buy Class 3!
8/20/2009 10:27:36 PM EDT
[#12]
It is a blast.    I've done the M2, M16, M4, SAW, M60, AK47, AK74, Thompson, M3 Grease gun, Uzi, and MAC 10.    

I'm not crazy about the flat metal folding stock on the Uzi against my check, but like the design.

Right now, I don't own any full autos.    I might get some if a trust would allow multiple people to use them.

But, I get a kick out of my AR's.   I can shoot them pretty fast, I guess.


8/24/2009 10:06:15 AM EDT
[#13]
Nice––I have seen shoulder bumping but no can do for me.  Can you do that with the .223?
8/24/2009 10:28:42 AM EDT
[#14]



G3's give me a headache...

that SD sounded like a sewing machine! hopefully, my FS Uzi SMG will sound the same once the ATF finally get's my form 4's back to me...


8/24/2009 10:30:29 AM EDT
[#15]
cool


8/24/2009 10:33:53 AM EDT
[#16]
What the heck flew away from the 2nd M16 when you shot the first round? That sure wasn't a piece of brass!
8/24/2009 10:33:57 AM EDT
[#17]
Cool, but it needs more mag-dumps

Also, you can see why 30-cal machine guns weren't a big hit with the .mil.
8/24/2009 10:34:22 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
What the heck flew away from the 2nd M16 when you shot the first round? That sure wasn't a piece of brass!


Dust cover?
8/24/2009 10:35:50 AM EDT
[#19]


8/24/2009 10:36:46 AM EDT
[#20]
Hope you didn't hit the neighbor's house behind you.




Looks like fun

8/24/2009 10:38:48 AM EDT
[#21]





Quoted:





Quoted:


What the heck flew away from the 2nd M16 when you shot the first round? That sure wasn't a piece of brass!






Dust cover?



That is what I thought, but it looks like it is still there.






ETA: Happens with the first M16 too, was there a grip plug in there?
8/24/2009 10:40:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
G3 must have been a beast on FA.


My thoughts exactly...and it shows...

Sound quality is pretty good also. You can hear the ejected casings landing on the plastic tarp.

I'm jealous.

8/24/2009 10:42:17 AM EDT
[#23]
My favorite MG I have shot is the MP5SD, which is what I'm buying soon.  Followed by the MP5K and the Thompson.
8/24/2009 10:46:38 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Whole lotta fun!


With ammunition costs the way they are, hookers and blow would have been more "bang for the buck."
8/24/2009 10:47:52 AM EDT
[#25]
so did your pee pee tingle?
8/24/2009 10:51:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Looks like a ton of fun.

My favorites (that I have actually fired in F.A.):

FAL
M16
G3
KP44
Thompson
MAC 10
MAC 11

8/24/2009 10:57:08 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
so did your pee pee tingle?


Had to. Mine did just watching. I'm quite jealous.

Thinking about buying something full auto. I guess it's like buying a CD if you think about it. You might have spent a shitload of money to buy it, but you can always sell it and get your money back if you need to?

DO WANT! I've never shot full auto.
8/24/2009 11:08:13 AM EDT
[#28]
You really haven't gone Full Auto till you've shot something Belt Fed


Glad you had fun, its addictive and expensive, hence why I let Uncle Sam pay for my ammo!  Plus there is nothing like a belt fed Grenade Launcher
8/24/2009 11:11:39 AM EDT
[#29]
So, no longer a virgin, eh?

Have worked on and fired M2, M240,M60, M249. M2 was my favorite. Also built them

Also, Reising (junk), M1 & m1928 Thompson, M3, MP44 (yes, the grand daddy of Assault Rifles), MP40, MP38, Uzi, M10, (super fast), Mini Uzi (again, super rate of fire) Swede K, and BAR. Favorite in this group was the M1928. Sweet old SMG.

Class III is the way.

Groucho
8/24/2009 11:17:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Shrike
1919 & PKM



 
8/24/2009 11:21:07 AM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


You really haven't gone Full Auto till you've shot something Belt Fed






Glad you had fun, its addictive and expensive, hence why I let Uncle Sam pay for my ammo! Plus there is nothing like a belt fed Grenade Launcher


That does sound like fun!




 
8/24/2009 11:22:19 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
So, no longer a virgin, eh?

Have worked on and fired M2, M240,M60, M249. M2 was my favorite. Also built them

Also, Reising (junk), M1 & m1928 Thompson, M3, MP44 (yes, the grand daddy of Assault Rifles), MP40, MP38, Uzi, M10, (super fast), Mini Uzi (again, super rate of fire) Swede K, and BAR. Favorite in this group was the M1928. Sweet old SMG.

Class III is the way.

Groucho


well running reisings are smooth, fast, controllable, and comfortable. they are great shooting guns and, considering the ease with which they can be made to run well, i think they are one of the best deals in the transferable market. polish the bolt, and shorten the firing pin just a hair, and most reisings will run without problems.


8/24/2009 11:37:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:


well running reisings are smooth, fast, controllable, and comfortable. they are great shooting guns and, considering the ease with which they can be made to run well, i think they are one of the best deals in the transferable market. polish the bolt, and shorten the firing pin just a hair, and most reisings will run without problems.




The cocking mechanisim was located oddly and filled with junk, crud, mud in combat. The internal fire controls were weak and way too elegant for a battle gun. Also, it was a bitch to work on the control group. OK, I've got an attitude here and I admit it. You are correct in that when they ran, they were smooth. I'll take a nice simple Thompson or MP 40. That said, it's been a few years since I've done any of this work and it was in a production/repair shop with all kinds of time pressure. I love firearms, but there's no time to putz with them when on the clock. It's "get it done, make it run and on to the next job." Kinda took some of the fun out of it.......except for test firing When a tech worked on a gun, he had to test it.

Groucho

8/24/2009 11:44:58 AM EDT
[#34]
cool vid - love the comments!
8/24/2009 11:55:21 AM EDT
[#35]
My favorite auto in the army was M240B
I got to shoot hundreds from
M240B –– Awesome
M249 –– Meh, pretty good
Mk 48 ––  Overrated not very reliable but they are very light
Mk 46 ––  Ditto.
M4 –– Teh Suck (3 round burst is only good for close range)
M2 –– The army's are way too beat up, need a new .50 or new production (maybe they have it but we didn't get em)...parts broke at a rediculous pace, shells ruptured consitantly (yes headspace and timing was correct)  I think the new ones go on the generals' MRAPs that stay inside the wire.
Mk 19 –– Same deal as the M2, and not enough training on them.
AK 47 –– Very nice on auto.
8/24/2009 12:02:28 PM EDT
[#36]
How can you not love the Sten?!  When I was a kid living overseas the Sten was probably my favorite.  Extremely quiet and easy for me to shoot at five years old.  
8/24/2009 12:19:48 PM EDT
[#37]
M249 SAW

M60E3

M16A2

MP5 40 cal.

MP5 9mm

MP5SD

MAC-11



My favorite is the MP5SD. Don't need ear protection and could empty an entire magazine into the head area of the target without throwing a single round (Roughly 6-8 yards). Incredibly controllable!



I cannot stand the 3 round burst. I understand the theory behind it, but frankly I think it is worthless.



Congrats on "popping your cherry" with FA. Sure is fun, isn't it!
8/24/2009 12:34:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


well running reisings are smooth, fast, controllable, and comfortable. they are great shooting guns and, considering the ease with which they can be made to run well, i think they are one of the best deals in the transferable market. polish the bolt, and shorten the firing pin just a hair, and most reisings will run without problems.




The cocking mechanisim was located oddly and filled with junk, crud, mud in combat. The internal fire controls were weak and way too elegant for a battle gun. Also, it was a bitch to work on the control group. OK, I've got an attitude here and I admit it. You are correct in that when they ran, they were smooth. I'll take a nice simple Thompson or MP 40. That said, it's been a few years since I've done any of this work and it was in a production/repair shop with all kinds of time pressure. I love firearms, but there's no time to putz with them when on the clock. It's "get it done, make it run and on to the next job." Kinda took some of the fun out of it.......except for test firing When a tech worked on a gun, he had to test it.

Groucho



yeah, they weren't the best combat arm, that's for sure.

but for the C3 enthusiast, who will likely be shooting at a range or in the local sandpit instead of low-crawling through mud, they are hard to beat. hell, they do fine in SMG competitions too.


8/24/2009 12:48:16 PM EDT
[#39]
They are all a ton of fun. If it doesn't bring a smile to your face, you are doing something wrong.
8/24/2009 1:09:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Good eye––that was a grip plug with insert.  It was hard plastic but seemed kind of cheap to me.  The MG owner had just put that grip on but every time we shot it, it flew open and dropped the grip insert

He finally left it out...
8/24/2009 1:55:46 PM EDT
[#41]





Quoted:






Whole lotta fun!





If you're ever around west central Fla. late in February, c'mon by and see us.  







HSC
 
 
8/24/2009 2:01:18 PM EDT
[#42]

Ive shot a  SAW many times, a m240, and a mp5. They were all so fun its impossible to choose.
8/24/2009 2:04:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Looks fun. But I would hate to have to feed those things...I guess if you can afford FA then you can afford ammo though.


If I could own any FA it would have to be a M-16 with a 22LR upper







I have shot FA a bit (Ammo supplied by USAF

):


M249


M60


M16A1/A2, M4, GAU/GUU-5


GAU-2 (From MH-53J)


M-2 (From MH-53J)


AK-47/AK-74


G3






MP5 (Gun store in Las Vegas back in 1989)
 
8/24/2009 2:15:11 PM EDT
[#44]
All of those other guns are toys compared to the G3.

I miss shooting my CETME.
8/24/2009 2:17:58 PM EDT
[#45]
You get the 'worlds largest brass catcher' award.
8/24/2009 2:21:40 PM EDT
[#46]
Haven't done any FA shooting in quite a while. Lot's of fun.
8/24/2009 2:38:27 PM EDT
[#47]
My personal favorite that I have fired has to be the M249 SAW. Awesome weapon.

Sure wish I still owned my AR18......................

 
 
8/27/2009 1:18:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
My personal favorite that I have fired has to be the M249 SAW. Awesome weapon.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lumpy223/SAWLUM.jpg


Sure wish I still owned my AR18......................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZXaEENc4k
 



That SAW is sweet!  It is on my list of "want to shoot".  I wonder how much they cost––ther can't be too many of them out there for sale??
8/27/2009 2:42:41 PM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


Good eye––that was a grip plug with insert.  It was hard plastic but seemed kind of cheap to me.  The MG owner had just put that grip on but every time we shot it, it flew open and dropped the grip insert




He finally left it out...


That would annoy the piss out of me.

 
8/30/2009 6:44:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Whole lotta fun!

If you're ever around west central Fla. late in February, c'mon by and see us.  

HSC



   



Thanks!  I will do that.  Sounds like a good excuse to get outta Dodge for a bit!