Posted: 8/10/2009 9:20:44 AM EDT
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From CPB to Rep Kurt Schrader of Oregon:
"Late last year, CPB recieved a request for a binding ruling pursuant to 19 CFR Part 177 regarding the admissibility of a knife equipped with an assisted opening mechanism. A sample of the knife was submitted as part of the ruling request. The subject knife, which was not manufactured with an activating button in the handle, but rather with thumb studs on the unsharpened "back" of the blade, nevertheless opened instantaneously in a manner indistinguishable from a traditional switchblade."
If your knife has a thumb stud for opening, its a "Switchblade" under Federal law according to US Commerce Department |
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Thats retarded and completely false. A thumb stud is still a manually opened knife as it is not spring assisted. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My gerber "assisted opener" lost one of the scales allowing one to see how the knife operates. It operates EXACTLY as my "switchblade", but with rather your force being applied "indirectly" to the mechanism via the thumbstud. The operating button on the switchblade applies yourforce "indirectly" to the mechanism via a crossbar below & not in contact with the button until pressed. So in essance the "switchblade button" is the exact same thing as the "assisted opening" thumbstud. Another FACT is that the assisted knife opens with more velocity & uses less physical force than the switchblade to open. Therefor making it a "one handed, fast opening knife" which infact is the definition of a switchblade. Which is why my switchblasde is also indeed an "assisted opening knife". Now, I just need another FO, since my last one broke. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Thats retarded and completely false. A thumb stud is still a manually opened knife as it is not spring assisted. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My gerber "assisted opener" lost one of the scales allowing one to see how the knife operates. It operates EXACTLY as my "switchblade", but with rather your force being applied "indirectly" to the mechanism via the thumbstud. The operating button on the switchblade applies yourforce "indirectly" to the mechanism via a crossbar below & not in contact with the button until pressed. So in essance the "switchblade button" is the exact same thing as the "assisted opening" thumbstud. Another FACT is that the assisted knife opens with more velocity & uses less physical force than the switchblade to open. Therefor making it a "one handed, fast opening knife" which infact is the definition of a switchblade. Which is why my switchblasde is also indeed an "assisted opening knife". Now, I just need another FO, since my last one broke. Pathfinder They do make lots and lots of knives with thumb studs that aren't AO. Also, most AO knives require the blade to get to about 30* before the spring takes over and pops the blade out. And, plenty of AO knives don't open that quickly, nor with that much force, compared to people talking about switchblades that can be deployed through multiple layers of clothing. Logic fail. |
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Thats retarded and completely false. A thumb stud is still a manually opened knife as it is not spring assisted. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My gerber "assisted opener" lost one of the scales allowing one to see how the knife operates. It operates EXACTLY as my "switchblade", but with rather your force being applied "indirectly" to the mechanism via the thumbstud. The operating button on the switchblade applies yourforce "indirectly" to the mechanism via a crossbar below & not in contact with the button until pressed. So in essance the "switchblade button" is the exact same thing as the "assisted opening" thumbstud. Another FACT is that the assisted knife opens with more velocity & uses less physical force than the switchblade to open. Therefor making it a "one handed, fast opening knife" which infact is the definition of a switchblade. Which is why my switchblasde is also indeed an "assisted opening knife". Now, I just need another FO, since my last one broke.
Pathfinder I think what everyone is getting up in arms about is their (meaning those who are freaking out) failure to distinguish between an assisted opening knife that you operate via a thumbstud and a regular, plain-jane pocket knife that you open via a thumbstud rather than a little nick out of it for your thumbnail. |
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I laugh at this bullshit. A bunch of people banning knives because of fucking movies in the 1950's. I wish I could find a quality switchblade, I'd carry the fucker on principal. As-is, I'll continue carrying my Kershaw Blackout with assisted opening. Microtech=quality. At least the one in my back pocket is a quality one. 
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Thats retarded and completely false. A thumb stud is still a manually opened knife as it is not spring assisted. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My gerber "assisted opener" lost one of the scales allowing one to see how the knife operates. It operates EXACTLY as my "switchblade", but with rather your force being applied "indirectly" to the mechanism via the thumbstud. The operating button on the switchblade applies yourforce "indirectly" to the mechanism via a crossbar below & not in contact with the button until pressed. So in essance the "switchblade button" is the exact same thing as the "assisted opening" thumbstud. Another FACT is that the assisted knife opens with more velocity & uses less physical force than the switchblade to open. Therefor making it a "one handed, fast opening knife" which infact is the definition of a switchblade. Which is why my switchblasde is also indeed an "assisted opening knife". Now, I just need another FO, since my last one broke.
Pathfinder My Gerber has no spring what so ever. Just the blade is between 2 nylon bushing. Just a little push of the thumbstud and a flick of the wrist to open. No way in hell is it a switchblade. |
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I could look up the Texas statute that defines what a switchblade is, but I don't feel like it. 
My Kershaws clearly do not fit the defined parameters in Texas anyway. Texas law says for it to be an automatic knife it must have a button thing that goes down. 
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From CPB to Rep Kurt Schrader of Oregon: "Late last year, CPB recieved a request for a binding ruling pursuant to 19 CFR Part 177 regarding the admissibility of a knife equipped with an assisted opening mechanism. A sample of the knife was submitted as part of the ruling request. The subject knife, which was not manufactured with an activating button in the handle, but rather with thumb studs on the unsharpened "back" of the blade, nevertheless opened instantaneously in a manner indistinguishable from a traditional switchblade."
If your knife has a thumb stud for opening, its a "Switchblade" under Federal law according to US Commerce Department wrong This has already been shot down. Yes the DOC tried to redefine the term "switchblade". Technically, this would only restrict the importation of knives meeting this definition. Problem was, many states use the DOC's definition to determine their own knife laws. Again, this is no longer a problem. The rule has been changed/shot down/done away with. It was all over the knife collector boards... |