[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Prison question... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/24/2009 8:56:19 AM EDT
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Okay... this'll be good... (I can't believe I'm discussing such matters in GD.)
My ex recently married the man of her dreams. As far as I can tell, she dumped me to be with him. It took them 2.5 years to finally hook-up, but she was eye-balling him before she split with me. So anyways... it turns out this dandy has been in prison. I've known that for a while now, and that supposedly it was on drug charges. He's supposedly clean now. But my current wife has been doing some snooping lately and has discovered that he was in Florence, CO. Sounds like the hard cases go there. What would a guy have to do to get sent to a place like that? She's got his prison ID, but talked to a lady with the bureau of prisons (or something like that) who said that she could tell us what he was in for, but if she told us then they'd have to tell him if he asked about any inquiries into his record. Whereas, as it stands now he doesn't know anything. I try not to think about this stuff and just cross my fingers that all will be well, but it doesn't concern me a little that our local yokel prisons weren't considered enough for this guy. I worry about my kids being under the same roof as this guy, but so far in several months of marriage nothing serious has happened that I know of. I watch my kids like a hawk and I'm just waiting for the day that I have to threaten this guy with his life and/or call the sheriff. I don't care where he's been or how tough he may have been, like a grizzly sow I'll CRUSH anyone that hurts my kids. |
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Sounds like a real winnar. 
What does he do for a living? He does finish work on new houses. I tend to think that what he really does for a living is live off the the substantial child-support payment my ex gets from me every two weeks. He didn't want to have much to do with her at first, but I think that the fact that she's got a decent, newer house and a guaranteed income (courtesy of me) really appealed to him. She's his sugar-mommy (and thus, so am I). Trust me... I didn't want to bring this up in GD, but then again... it's not so much a reflection me (like I give a crap anyways) as it is my mother-of-the-year ex-wife. 
ETA: My ex put his name on the house several weeks ago. She's really using her brain on this one! I just shrug my shoulders are her stupidity. That was our house, and I willingly gave it up in the divorce so my kids' lives would not be distrupted as much. They sleep in their same beds every night, etc. So what does she do? She friggin puts this winner as an owner when she's only been with him for 7 months or so. Smart... 
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Florence is for extremely violent prisoners who have attacked other prisoners or staff, or are otherwise considered extremely dangerous. The Unabomber is kept there, so is one of the OKC bombing terrorists and various cop killers, street gang leaders, and other lowlifes. You don't get sent there for writing bad checks. |
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Most maximum security prisons have a minimum security wing to supply free inmate labor to the facility Hmmm... interesting. I've got the same question into an email to a high-ranking cop friend of mine as well. As far as I can tell, this guy would have been an offender in OR or MT. So why would they send him to CO if his crime was just a basic drug crime? |
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Florence is for extremely violent prisoners who have attacked other prisoners or staff, or are otherwise considered extremely dangerous. The Unabomber is kept there, so is one of the OKC bombing terrorists and various cop killers, street gang leaders, and other lowlifes. You don't get sent there for writing bad checks. That's what I'm finding-out. Which makes me more curious about what his crime was. |
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many states have a department of corrections website and you can look up past and present offenders. You get their mug shot, charges, times served. How many times, and counties they were sentenced in. Hope I helped Will look into this. Maybe my current wife already has. I dunno. |
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Check him out.
I could give a rats ass what he thinks about it, if my kids are in a similar situation I check out who they come in contact with, whether the people I am checking on know it or not. If you do not want your kids living with a convicted felon, you may have a choice in the matter. |
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Google it
There basically Four Levels of Classification He could have been a low level Drug Dealer in Min or Med Security or he could have been a Billy Badass and been in High Security or Max I'd be real worried or concerned for the well - being of my Children Find someone who has access or works for BOP and have them look this guy up on their computer database If he was in my place I'd help you out |
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Check him out. I could give a rats ass what he thinks about it, if my kids are in a similar situation I check out who they come in contact with, whether the people I am checking on know it or not. If you do not want your kids living with a convicted felon, you may have a choice in the matter. Trust me, I've gone through a lot of scenarios. I've discussed it at-length with many people in the business of protecting kids. Including a good friend who works with families who've had drug-addict parents and used to be at CPS. She's been very good at bringing up all sides of the issue and unless my kids are in real imminent danger, going through the courts and tearing them away from the mom that they love is going to be VERY traumatic to them. I want to protect them. But I love them and have to walk a thin line between that and causing them more pain by imposing my will upon them. ALL that matters to me is that my kids live a happy, content, fulfilled, safe life. Sometimes it's hard to provide all of those things in my situation. |
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Quoted: Can't you have a friend do the inquiry for you? Someone who is unknown to him an preferably lives far away? You must know someone with a common name that your ex doesn't know. If the information is sent via mail, rent a PO Box in a city 2 hrs. away, if by phone, call from a city 2 hrs. away. You need to find out why he was there. |
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From wiki
Florence Federal Correctional Complex From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The Florence Federal Correctional Complex, located in Florence, Colorado, is south of Denver and west of Pueblo on State Highway 67. The complex was opened in 1994. The Florence FCC is home to three facilities[1]: FCI Florence, a Federal Correctional Institution with medium security. USP Florence, a United States Penitentiary with high security. USP Florence ADMAX, is an Administrative Maximum United States Penitentiary (Supermax), with a minimum security satellite prison camp. Hey maybe it was check fraud. |
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Just ask your ex. My ex lives in denial (a fact which should be obvious). She actually stated that this guy was her "angel". He's such an angel that he's been invited to several of her side of the family's gatherings and they all think he's an asshole. Yet they contine to interact with me regularly. So any opinion or statement of "facts" from her can't be trusted. She had been going a bit "loopy" before our split, but she's just completely out-there now. |
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Why is your current wife snooping on your ex wifes husband? Or do I want to know?  Because we are aware that he was in prison and what kind of parent wouldn't want to know more about the new step-dad to their kids and his prison record? My wife adores my kids and they adore her. In fact, she's closer to them than their own mother. I'd be bothered if she wasn't interested in what kind of "man" is trying to control my kids (he's a control freak). |
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Are you nuts? I had the EXACT same situation and my 'loving' mother got flakier and flakier. Her dreamboy ended up almost harming my kids and he finally had to leave. You cannot trust your wife on this one. Be a man and take control of the situation. Find out who he is and why he was in prison. Use those facts to make a decision on if you want your kids there. And then act on it. Always remember: A good custody lawyer often pays for himself within six months of winning custody. The savings in child support is worth it and so is your kids' welfare. |
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Okay... this'll be good... (I can't believe I'm discussing such matters in GD.) My ex recently married the man of her dreams. As far as I can tell, she dumped me to be with him. It took them 2.5 years to finally hook-up, but she was eye-balling him before she split with me. So anyways... it turns out this dandy has been in prison. I've known that for a while now, and that supposedly it was on drug charges. He's supposedly clean now. But my current wife has been doing some snooping lately and has discovered that he was in Florence, CO. Sounds like the hard cases go there. What would a guy have to do to get sent to a place like that? She's got his prison ID, but talked to a lady with the bureau of prisons (or something like that) who said that she could tell us what he was in for, but if she told us then they'd have to tell him if he asked about any inquiries into his record. Whereas, as it stands now he doesn't know anything. I try not to think about this stuff and just cross my fingers that all will be well, but it doesn't concern me a little that our local yokel prisons weren't considered enough for this guy. I worry about my kids being under the same roof as this guy, but so far in several months of marriage nothing serious has happened that I know of. I watch my kids like a hawk and I'm just waiting for the day that I have to threaten this guy with his life and/or call the sheriff. I don't care where he's been or how tough he may have been, like a grizzly sow I'll CRUSH anyone that hurts my kids. I wouldn't worry. Florence ain't no joke I am pretty sure cho mos check in but don't check out. The truth is the ex-con is the man of your dreams you just haven't realized it yet. I am still trying to find the right thank you gift for the dumbass that took my wife. I have been putting it off nearly two years. |
| You should be able to go to the Courthouse and look at the court record. That would list what he was charged with, convicted of, and sentencing data. That is public information so they wouldn't notify him. I don't think it will give his classification information as that is determined by the Bureau of Prisons. |
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Make the inquiry, who cares if he finds out.
If it ever comes up or if it is convenient to bring up (heh), just tell him the truth. "I love my children, and I care for them. I had heard that you spent time in prison, and because my children will be spending time in your company, I felt compelled to to investigate that part of your history. Wouldn't you do the same?" Oh, and if it's true, add "Although things are over with her, I still care about [insert ex's name here]'s well being, she is the mother of my children afterall." My 2 cents. |
For a very modest price, you can have a PI (private Investigator) do a crim background on him... He may be a violent offender, a parolee or a sex offender... You should know and if its a bad one then you may be able to gain custody of the kids...
BTW her putting him on her deed just fucked her out of 50% of her home and a forced sale down the road. I am very sorry. Get all the info now. If it turns out he was some two bit or bullshit one time idiot you'll feel alot better. I suspect... there will be more than a single incident/crime. Most first time offenders don't go to federal prison... Good luck |
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For a very modest price, you can have a PI (private Investigator) do a crim background on him... He may be a violent offender, a parolee or a sex offender... You should know and if its a bad one then you may be able to gain custody of the kids...
BTW her putting him on her deed just fucked her out of 50% of her home and a forced sale down the road. I am very sorry. Get all the info now. If it turns out he was some two bit or bullshit one time idiot you'll feel alot better. I suspect... there will be more than a single incident/crime. Most first time offenders don't go to federal prison... Good luck This. Especially since you say your children are involved in this equation now. |