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7/19/2009 8:00:20 PM EDT
I have talked about my cobras on here before when I posted pics of other snakes. Well I finally took some pics (although crappy) of some of my younger cobras.



Sorry these are so bad but they were taken in bad light with my iphone.




Really blurry cape cobra (Naja nivea)


















Better pics of a Sunset Monocle Cobra (suphan phase) Naja kaouthia















Some better pics of a few of my young West African Gaboon Vipers

Bitis gabonica rhinoceros  













7/19/2009 8:07:17 PM EDT
[#1]
gaboons are soo cool!
7/19/2009 8:15:02 PM EDT
[#2]
Awesome, this is my copperhead.......

7/19/2009 8:18:07 PM EDT
[#3]
FYI - iPhones put your GPS coordinates in the EXIF data of the pics.  Not that someone would want to fuck with someone with hot snakes, but just to let you know.
7/19/2009 8:20:23 PM EDT
[#4]
I for one am pro snake, but damn the gaboon is friggin scary
7/19/2009 8:22:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Sweet.

I always wanted a Gaboon.
7/19/2009 8:29:46 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


FYI - iPhones put your GPS coordinates in the EXIF data of the pics.  Not that someone would want to fuck with someone with hot snakes, but just to let you know.
You can apparently find all the info you want about me from Fish and Wildlife anyway. I was getting phone calls from the Orlando Sentinel for interviews after that kid got killed.






 
7/19/2009 8:30:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Wow...  I want a cottonmouth...  My wife would never ever let me...  EVER....
7/19/2009 8:31:22 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Awesome, this is my copperhead.......



http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/whiteshark357/Ziggy6.jpg


Hope you have your permit.




 
7/19/2009 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Who can tell me which Gaboon is the male and which is the female? Top two are one, bottom two are the other. (It has nothing to do with color.)

 
7/19/2009 8:42:40 PM EDT
[#10]
Bottom one female??
7/19/2009 8:43:18 PM EDT
[#11]


Johnny Reno's Rules of Life

1)  If it doesn't have two or four legs, it dies.

2) If it considers me to be a meal, it dies.



Your snakes are currently in violation of Rule #1 and possibly Rule #2.
7/19/2009 8:45:02 PM EDT
[#12]
you guys keep fucking snakes as pets

around here they are killed on sight
7/19/2009 8:45:19 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


Bottom one female??


You don't win anything but you are correct.




 
7/19/2009 9:02:10 PM EDT
[#14]
7/19/2009 11:04:07 PM EDT
[#15]
This thread wins the internets! I love snakes.
7/19/2009 11:10:12 PM EDT
[#16]


Nice.
What kind of permit do have to have to keep venomous snakes?


7/19/2009 11:13:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Nice. What kind of permit do have to have to keep venomous snakes?



Depends on state, species and CITIES classification.
In Cali you do not need a permit to keep a native, non endangered venomous snake.
7/19/2009 11:13:47 PM EDT
[#18]
very cool
7/19/2009 11:14:14 PM EDT
[#19]
More power to ya, but I think you're crazy as hell.
7/19/2009 11:14:55 PM EDT
[#20]
I don't mind snakes, but I can't imagine ever keeping a venomous one as a pet.  Anything that'll try to bite and kill you when you want to play with it = not so fun pet.
7/19/2009 11:17:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I don't mind snakes, but I can't imagine ever keeping a venomous one as a pet.  Anything that'll try to bite and kill you when you want to play with it = not so fun pet.


I have never met a hot keeper who thought of hot snakes as "pets".
7/19/2009 11:19:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Holy Gawd
7/19/2009 11:22:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't mind snakes, but I can't imagine ever keeping a venomous one as a pet.  Anything that'll try to bite and kill you when you want to play with it = not so fun pet.


I have never met a hot keeper who thought of hot snakes as "pets".


Well, whatever it is they're considered.  I'll go to the zoo when I want to see those bastards.  :|
7/19/2009 11:58:57 PM EDT
[#24]
I can speak with snakes. Could you refer me to hogwarts?
7/20/2009 12:18:50 AM EDT
[#25]
TFYT
7/20/2009 12:45:41 AM EDT
[#26]


C. Oreganus Helleri (Southern Pacific Rattlesnake)

She is 2 years old.

In this state, we're limited, very, to the hots we CAN keep.
7/20/2009 12:49:34 AM EDT
[#27]
Just curious, what do you do with cobras?  Venom collection, or make boots, or tourist-trap roadside attraction?
7/20/2009 12:50:23 AM EDT
[#28]
We are allowed native species only, right?
7/20/2009 4:17:59 AM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


Just curious, what do you do with cobras?  Venom collection, or make boots, or tourist-trap roadside attraction?


I breed the adults, but the cobras in the pics are still young.  I will be breeding the Monocles and selling the Capes once I get them a bit bigger.



 
7/20/2009 4:21:50 AM EDT
[#30]
MY EYE!!

My pet cobra he bit me!

7/20/2009 4:27:30 AM EDT
[#31]
Gaboon Vipers are by far the coolest looking snake.
The colors, and the shape of the head are just awesome.
I'm not a snake person, but I love the look of those things.
7/20/2009 4:27:53 AM EDT
[#32]





Quoted:





Quoted:




Nice.

What kind of permit do have to have to keep venomous snakes?












Depends on state, species and CITIES classification.


In Cali you do not need a permit to keep a native, non endangered venomous snake.
One more reason I love Florida. We have a permitting system that ensures only experienced individuals are allowed to keep venomous, yet we can have just about anything we want.  I am thinking about trying to get a group of Pseudohaje goldii that I can breed. They have not been bred in captivity so they would be quite valuable if I produce captive born babies. The people I know that have worked with them describe them as a black mamba on crack, and unlike the mamba they have a true prehensile tail to make them just a little more fun.
 
7/20/2009 4:29:42 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Just curious, what do you do with cobras?  Venom collection, or make boots, or tourist-trap roadside attraction?

I breed the adults, but the cobras in the pics are still young.  I will be breeding the Monocles and selling the Capes once I get them a bit bigger.
 


Who typically buys them?
Seems like it would be a small market.

Very cool collection - thanks for sharing the pics.
You wear any kind of special protective clothing when feeding / cleaning cages? (or is at all technique?)

7/20/2009 4:30:21 AM EDT
[#34]
Why would you keep posionous snakes?
7/20/2009 4:31:59 AM EDT
[#35]
I love Cobra's

Especially with mashed potatoes and gravy.
7/20/2009 4:43:52 AM EDT
[#36]
Careful now. Gonna make some of these tough guys piss themselves.
7/20/2009 4:45:45 AM EDT
[#37]
Does your homeowner's/life/health insurance increase?



What kind of liability would you incur if one bit someone inside your home or escaped and bit someone?
7/20/2009 4:47:40 AM EDT
[#38]
you sir FUCKING INSANE


oh and dibs on guns, ammo, booze, and women
7/20/2009 4:48:22 AM EDT
[#39]
rule #1: Never have an animal as a pet that has the ability to kill you.
7/20/2009 4:59:47 AM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:


Does your homeowner's/life/health insurance increase?



What kind of liability would you incur if one bit someone inside your home or escaped and bit someone?


My snakes have never gotten out of their cages and never will, but like everything with venomous you have to plan on the remote possibility that things can happen. because of that the room they are in is escape proof.



I am the only one that is inside my hot rooms when cages are open. So I am the only one that could get bit.



 
7/20/2009 5:03:22 AM EDT
[#41]



Quoted:


rule #1: Never have an animal as a pet that has the ability to kill you.


They are not treated as pets.
 
7/20/2009 5:05:06 AM EDT
[#42]
7/20/2009 5:11:22 AM EDT
[#43]
Ok,

I have to ask.

How do you know when your snakes are "in the mood"?  You mentioned you breed them.

Do they get all...er...straight?

How do you go about the introduction?  Do you run the danger that they might kill each other?
7/20/2009 5:17:24 AM EDT
[#44]
I am not going to win any friends here, but it actually pisses me off that these exotic deadly species can be kept privately.  It's bad enough that the damned state of Florida has a constrictor problem, but just wait until we have a sizable cobra population to contend with because of private breeders who can't keep track of every creature's life-to-death whereabouts.  Please educate me if I am wrong.
7/20/2009 5:27:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Sweet.
7/20/2009 5:28:08 AM EDT
[#46]
Here's my 3.5 year old daughter's vicious creamsicle corn snake!









 
7/20/2009 5:28:33 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Ok,

I have to ask.

How do you know when your snakes are "in the mood"?  You mentioned you breed them.

Do they get all...er...straight?

How do you go about the introduction?  Do you run the danger that they might kill each other?


One of my friends collects snakes (working on his licence to keep hots) and you just kinda put them together. The female produces pheromones and gets the male in the mood, they screw, and then smoke a cigarette.
7/20/2009 5:30:58 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
I am not going to win any friends here, but it actually pisses me off that these exotic deadly species can be kept privately.  It's bad enough that the damned state of Florida has a constrictor problem, but just wait until we have a sizable cobra population to contend with because of private breeders who can't keep track of every creature's life-to-death whereabouts.  Please educate me if I am wrong.


You do realize that the OP has a license to do so, it's not like he just some regular Joe playing around with hots.  Just change some of the words with machine gun and you sound like an anti-gunner.


Snake venom contains a complex set of proteins and enzymes that could yield breakthroughs in medical treatment.  Also, these deadly snakes kill hundreds, and in some cases thousands a year.  In some cases, the antiserum is only synthesized here in the US.  That requires a consistent and steady captive population.
7/20/2009 5:33:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
I am not going to win any friends here, but it actually pisses me off that these exotic deadly species can be kept privately.  It's bad enough that the damned state of Florida has a constrictor problem, but just wait until we have a sizable cobra population to contend with because of private breeders who can't keep track of every creature's life-to-death whereabouts.  Please educate me if I am wrong.


The problem isn't the breeders. It was the Miami Serpentarium (milked the snakes to produce anti-venom) that got hit by hurricane Andrew. Every venomous snake from around the world got out and is breeding in the everglades.

I don't see a problem with constrictors, the venomous snakes are the ones that mainly cause a problem with humans. Most of the time its the human doing some jackass thing (poking the snake with a stick) and they get bit.
7/20/2009 5:33:04 AM EDT
[#50]
Why do you get them out of their enclosures?  Do you even handle them?  I know so little about keeping hot snakes, I have no idea if any species even allow handling.
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