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7/15/2009 3:59:20 PM EDT
Me riding my motorcycle home on the fwy and splitting lanes is not illegal. I am not trying to race you in your dumb lifted or lowered car anywhere. I can legally split lanes. I am sorry it angers you and you try to cut me off or do cute stuff like throw burger wrappers and pretend like youre gonna spill your 64oz over my head. its not funny. Youre an idiot and so is your dumb girlfriend with her bad dye job.

get over yourself.

i feel better now.
7/15/2009 4:01:55 PM EDT
[#1]
You're doing it wrong. The trick is to go juuuust fast enough to whiz by before they've had a chance to figure out if they're going to do anything, but slow enough to react to what might lie ahead.




Done correctly, the cager should be startled - not prepared.

7/15/2009 4:05:38 PM EDT
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Had a motor bike 'split' lanes between a couple cars during rush hour down in Phoenix one year, just as a stoned kid blew an intersection and t-boned the car on the left.  They pinched the bike between the two cars he was splitting, and once everyone got done locking brakes and trying to avoid the accident...I got out of my pickup and found that he'd been launched about 100-150 feet down the road (no idea how much of that distance was rolling and not flying); he was lucky he was wearing full gear...broken shoulder was all.
7/15/2009 4:08:22 PM EDT
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Had a motor bike 'split' lanes between a couple cars during rush hour down in Phoenix one year, just as a stoned kid blew an intersection and t-boned the car on the left.  They pinched the bike between the two cars he was splitting, and once everyone got done locking brakes and trying to avoid the accident...I got out of my pickup and found that he'd been launched about 100-150 feet down the road (no idea how much of that distance was rolling and not flying); he was lucky he was wearing full gear...broken shoulder was all.


Most guys I know (well...knew - it's rare here in Ohio) that did it - myself included - kept it to the interstate, for the most part.



There's no way in hell I'd split through an intersection, legal or not.



 
7/15/2009 4:10:45 PM EDT
[#4]
Not legal here, and I sure as hell wouldn't split lanes anyway. OP's rant is just one of a few reasons. Not to mention my big, wide Harley is a little too wide to do that.
7/15/2009 4:14:14 PM EDT
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Not legal here, and I sure as hell wouldn't split lanes anyway. OP's rant is just one of a few reasons. Not to mention my big, wide Harley is a little too wide to do that.


No it isn't. Ask me how I know.




There is miles of room between the #1 and #2 lanes. Drivers in #1 always (unconsciously) hug the shoulder on the left in bumper to bumper traffic. Nice wide berth.




 
7/15/2009 5:29:08 PM EDT
[#6]
I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.
7/15/2009 5:30:25 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.
7/15/2009 5:32:52 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Yea, the first time I saw it was when I was stationed in CA.

Lane splitting is riding your bike between vehicles in their lanes.
7/15/2009 5:34:00 PM EDT
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In before the anti-lane-splitting "It's not FAIR!" whiners.
7/15/2009 5:35:56 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Yea, the first time I saw it was when I was stationed in CA.

Lane splitting is riding your bike between vehicles in their lanes.


I gotcha. They do that here. I just thought motorcycles were in a hurry.
7/15/2009 5:36:24 PM EDT
[#11]
i wish it was legal in alabama...
7/15/2009 5:37:12 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.
7/15/2009 5:38:45 PM EDT
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I haven't seen too many bikers here lane splitting in miami but yesterday one startled me on the palmetto expressway when I was driving a big 15 passenger van. Guy just flew by, going way more than 15mph faster than traffic and the guy was lucky I held off on switching lanes right then and there
7/15/2009 5:41:13 PM EDT
[#14]
ppl suck
7/15/2009 5:42:59 PM EDT
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Lived in Thailand for many years...In the cities ,you have to split lanes if you want to get anywhere......If you were on a bike and following in line with the cars,people would look at you very funny..probably consider you to be a stupid foreigner......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W3KIPZWAEU&NR=1

EDIT>> I wouldn't do it here in the States...people aren't looking out for ya.......
7/15/2009 5:44:27 PM EDT
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ppl suck


And this has what to do with this thread?
7/15/2009 5:45:43 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


+1 kind of like driving on the shoulder in stopped traffic, you never know what the idiots in front you are going to do.
7/15/2009 5:52:12 PM EDT
[#18]
You would think that people who drive vehicles that make Dodge Neons look intimidating would be a bit more cautious in their driving habits, but mama always said "stupid is as stupid does".
7/15/2009 5:56:42 PM EDT
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they don't split lanes next to me very much
7/15/2009 6:10:04 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.

Considering it's safer, why would you call it stupid?  Got something to back-up your ridiculous opinion?z

7/15/2009 6:15:45 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.




Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.




Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


Considering it's safer, why would you call it stupid?  Got something to back-up your ridiculous opinion?z





+1



People who haven't grown up around it don't understand. Accidents while lane splitting in California are almost unheard of.



Facts don't matter. People don't like it, because it's "not fair". That's really all there is to it, whether they admit to it or not.



 
7/15/2009 6:18:26 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.

Considering it's safer, why would you call it stupid?  Got something to back-up your ridiculous opinion?z



How the fuck is it "safer" then staying in line? And what I have to back it up is over 2 million miles on the road and seeing many, many people (in cars messing with the bike riders) move sideways because they are pissed that they are sitting and the bike is not. 3 Resulted in car vs. bike accidents.
7/15/2009 6:20:43 PM EDT
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Not legal here, and I sure as hell wouldn't split lanes anyway. OP's rant is just one of a few reasons. Not to mention my big, wide Harley is a little too wide to do that.



Even if it were legal here, there's no way in hell I'd split lanes, they tried to pass it a year or two ago but it failed. I'm glad it did.
7/15/2009 6:21:20 PM EDT
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...How the fuck is it "safer" then staying in line?


It's safer because it gets you to your destination faster and you spend less time on the bike.  Riding motorcycles is dangerous.

7/15/2009 6:22:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Snowbirds around here drive like shit and are a danger to bike riders.
7/15/2009 6:22:57 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm sorry, I was just in a bad mood that day.
7/15/2009 6:24:10 PM EDT
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Not legal here, and I sure as hell wouldn't split lanes anyway. OP's rant is just one of a few reasons. Not to mention my big, wide Harley is a little too wide to do that.



Even if it were legal here, there's no way in hell I'd split lanes, they tried to pass it a year or two ago but it failed. I'm glad it did.


its done all the time in Cali. accidents lane splitting are really rare and when they do happen its an assclown in the car causing it.

car turning left in front of me or a teeny bopper/soccer mom on a cell scare the hell out of me...

7/15/2009 6:25:43 PM EDT
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How the fuck is it "safer" then staying in line? And what I have to back it up is over 2 million miles on the road and seeing many, many people (in cars messing with the bike riders) move sideways because they are pissed that they are sitting and the bike is not. 3 Resulted in car vs. bike accidents.



Because a study commissioned by the US Department of Transportation at the University of Southern California says it is. See:





Hurt, H.H.; Ouellet, J.V.; Thom,
D.R.; (1981). "Motorcycle Accident Cause Factors and Identification of
Countermeasures, Volume 1: Technical Report". University of Southern
California.






While we're at it, FARS data from the DOT shows that rear end collisions with motorcycles are 30% lower in California than in Texas or Florida - two states with similar riding seasons.





I know you don't like hearing it, and I know it seemingly defies your notion of "common sense", but it really is safer for the motorcyclist.





 
7/15/2009 6:28:42 PM EDT
[#29]
This here lane splitt'in sounds like a good way to thin out the gene pool of undesirables and defective special ones.
7/15/2009 6:29:55 PM EDT
[#30]
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How the fuck is it "safer" then staying in line? And what I have to back it up is over 2 million miles on the road and seeing many, many people (in cars messing with the bike riders) move sideways because they are pissed that they are sitting and the bike is not. 3 Resulted in car vs. bike accidents.

Because a study commissioned by the US Department of Transportation at the University of Southern California says it is. See:

Hurt, H.H.; Ouellet, J.V.; Thom,D.R.; (1981). "Motorcycle Accident Cause Factors and Identification ofCountermeasures, Volume 1: Technical Report". University of SouthernCalifornia.

While we're at it, FARS data from the DOT shows that rear end collisions with motorcycles are 30% lower in California than in Texas or Florida - two states with similar riding seasons.

I know you don't like hearing it, and I know it seemingly defies your notion of "common sense", but it really is safer for the motorcyclist.
 


My only basis is what I have personally witnessed, Never read any study's. Like I said, from what I have seen though, no way I would ever do it.
7/15/2009 6:30:05 PM EDT
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This here lane splitt'in sounds like a good way to thin out the gene pool of undesirables and defective special ones.


Except that where it's legal, it (surprisingly) has the opposite affect.



For fuck's sake, even the CHP says it's safer. Incidentally, they do it to. Everyday.



 
7/15/2009 6:31:41 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


Are we talking about when there's traffic backed up, or at speed?

Anyone who would go between two cars at 70 mph needs his head examined!
7/15/2009 6:33:52 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


Are we talking about when there's traffic backed up, or at speed?

Anyone who would go between two cars at 70 mph needs his head examined!


No, they only go about 10mph faster than the slow/stopped traffic
7/15/2009 6:40:44 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.




Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.




Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.




Are we talking about when there's traffic backed up, or at speed?



Anyone who would go between two cars at 70 mph needs his head examined!
Generally, it's done when cars are stopped or close to it, on the freeway.



My personal rule is to pull back into the lane once traffic hits about 40mph. At that speed, gaps open up between adjacent cars sufficient to allow a motorist to make an abrupt lane change. When cars are bumper to bumper, this isn't possible.



And once you're moving at 40-45mph, there's no real need to split anymore. Traffic is moving along more or less okay, at that point.



It's really hard to appreciate just how well it works, unless you live where it's an everyday, normal occurrence.





 
7/15/2009 6:50:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Get some big ball bearings and keep them in your pocket. If some dumb fucker tries something behind you at night, just toss a couple over your shoulder while you are acting like you are trying to scratch and itch.
7/15/2009 9:45:17 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


Are we talking about when there's traffic backed up, or at speed?

Anyone who would go between two cars at 70 mph needs his head examined!

It's usually only done when traffic is moving less than ten MPH.  I spent about six weeks in San Francisco, and I don't remember seeing any motorcycles lane splitting while traffic was moving much faster than that.  At seventy MPH, I don't even know if it's possible to do safely because of the turbulence.  It's bad enough passing a car in a separate lane at fifty MPH (fastest I've gone on a motorcycle).

I've only driven a motorcycle on the street once, but even I've gotten rear-ended in stop and go traffic.  That happened last Monday.  The cop that responded to the accident said that is the most common motorcycle accident he sees.  I got knocked down hard, and the only damage it did was bend the clutch handle.  I do understand that his sample is biased since it is in Seattle traffic, but the fact of the matter is that it is tiring and dangerous to ride a motorcycle in stop and go traffic.  Too many people judge distance from a vehicle by looking at relative sizes so they underestimate how close they are to motorcycles.  The woman that hit me obviously saw me, but she said she just didn't realize how close she was.z
7/15/2009 9:50:45 PM EDT
[#37]
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Get some big ball bearings and keep them in your pocket. If some dumb fucker tries something behind you at night, just toss a couple over your shoulder while you are acting like you are trying to scratch and itch.


 There was some documentary on women bikers a few years ago, the Harley mama said she kept a pocket full of flat washers for the same reason.
7/15/2009 9:57:24 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose on business in 1995 stuck in traffic when I witnessed this for the first time.  Freaked me out a little.


Explain "splitting lanes" to me, I'm kinda slow.


Driving down the line between two rows of cars. Legal or not, it's fucking stupid as hell.


Are we talking about when there's traffic backed up, or at speed?

Anyone who would go between two cars at 70 mph needs his head examined!

It's usually only done when traffic is moving less than ten MPH.  I spent about six weeks in San Francisco, and I don't remember seeing any motorcycles lane splitting while traffic was moving much faster than that.  At seventy MPH, I don't even know if it's possible to do safely because of the turbulence.  It's bad enough passing a car in a separate lane at fifty MPH (fastest I've gone on a motorcycle).

I've only driven a motorcycle on the street once, but even I've gotten rear-ended in stop and go traffic.  That happened last Monday.  The cop that responded to the accident said that is the most common motorcycle accident he sees.  I got knocked down hard, and the only damage it did was bend the clutch handle.  I do understand that his sample is biased since it is in Seattle traffic, but the fact of the matter is that it is tiring and dangerous to ride a motorcycle in stop and go traffic.  Too many people judge distance from a vehicle by looking at relative sizes so they underestimate how close they are to motorcycles.  The woman that hit me obviously saw me, but she said she just didn't realize how close she was.z


My wife drives a bus through Seattle traffic...she has some stories....like the dipshit on a bike who was splitting lanes in a heavy back up..only to rearend an Aid car.
7/15/2009 10:25:38 PM EDT
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How the fuck is it "safer" then staying in line?

Its safer than having a bunch of air-cooled bikes pulled off on the side of the road.

Or did you not realize why lane splitting came about in the first place?