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7/8/2009 6:16:02 PM EDT
I am in a pickle. I got a American security safe from a store in the mall that went out of business. I put a couple of lowers and my mark 23 pistol in it. My wife was cleaning and tossed the combination... I already know I have beat myself up about it.

My options are call a locksmith or cut it open. Everything is 1" thick. If I call the manufacture are they just going to blow me off? I'm sure they will. Do manufactures even keep the combination numbers?

Have tools and a port a power but I would rather not cut it up.


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7/8/2009 6:20:01 PM EDT
[#1]
probably no more than 10ga steel with sheetrock filler

cut that bitch open!

pics and video REQUIRED

7/8/2009 6:22:06 PM EDT
[#2]
I can't tell you my safe number as I type but somehow when I turn the dial the numbers come up.

I'd try to go from the heart and muscle memory

also you can look up manufactor and send serial number notirized staement saying your the owner and they send you the combo
7/8/2009 6:23:24 PM EDT
[#3]
If you have a receipt of sale the Mfg should be able to help you out.  Is the lock manual or digital/electronic?  Most SG electronic locks have a master combo or at least an initial combo to get you in so you can program your own.

The best thing would be to contact Amsec in the morning an see what they suggest.

Wes
7/8/2009 6:25:20 PM EDT
[#4]
It's a manual lock. My friends dad runs the mall and he gave it to me.

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7/8/2009 6:27:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Have a locksmith get the combo from the mfg and open it for you. He can verify to the mfg that it is in your house.
7/8/2009 6:30:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Now I see,  I would try to contact the previous owner if the combo was theirs.  A smith would probably have to drill it but I guess it depends on the model and the skill of the smith.  I would cut it only as a last resort.

Wes
7/8/2009 6:34:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Contact the manufacturer and see what they say. Asking is free. Probably they'll make you send some notarized stuff and pay a fee, and then they'll send the combo.
7/8/2009 6:43:28 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
It's a manual lock. My friends dad runs the mall and he gave it to me.

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Ask your friend's dad or the previous owner?
7/8/2009 6:47:32 PM EDT
[#9]
A good lock smith can open it! My safe arrived and would not open with the combination proved. The company sent a lock smith and he had it open in 3 minutes flat He said that one of the tumblers had been damaged in shipment. He took the lock apart replaced the tumble and the lock work with the original combination ever since! So that left me thinking how many folks out their know how to do this
7/8/2009 7:08:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It's a manual lock. My friends dad runs the mall and he gave it to me.

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Ask your friend's dad or the previous owner?




Previous owner was a business that went under. Dad does not keep any records of safes they get rid of.
7/8/2009 7:14:56 PM EDT
[#11]
STOP DO NOT CUT IT OPEN!!!!

There should be a serial number at the bottom right corner of the front of the safe.
If you give that number back to the place you bought it from to an authorized dealer, along with proof it is yours, they can get the combo from the manufacturer.
7/9/2009 1:56:57 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
STOP DO NOT CUT IT OPEN!!!!

There should be a serial number at the bottom right corner of the front of the safe.
If you give that number back to the place you bought it from to an authorized dealer, along with proof it is yours, they can get the combo from the manufacturer.


Assuming they didn't change the combo.  It isn't that difficult to change S&G combos.  In fact when I got my safe, I changed the combo on delivery.
7/9/2009 2:13:19 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

STOP DO NOT CUT IT OPEN!!!!



There should be a serial number at the bottom right corner of the front of the safe.

If you give that number back to the place you bought it from to an authorized dealer, along with proof it is yours, they can get the combo from the manufacturer.




Assuming they didn't change the combo.  It isn't that difficult to change S&G combos.  In fact when I got my safe, I changed the combo on delivery.
Most will still have a master combo, at least the one's I have owned do.