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6/24/2009 1:48:18 PM EDT
From The Times Online:



The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of a student shot dead in Tehran to take down mourning posters as they struggle to stop her becoming the rallying point for protests against the presidential election.

Neda Salehi Agha Soltan, 26, was killed as she watched a pro-democracy protest, and mobile phone footage of her last moments have become a worldwide symbol of Iran's turmoil.

The authorities had already banned a public funeral or wake and have prevented gatherings in her name while the state-controlled media has not mentioned Miss Soltan's death.

Today it was reported that they had also told her family to take down the black mourning banners outside their home in the Tehran suburbs to prevent it becoming a place of pilgrimage. They were also told they could not hold a memorial service at a mosque.

Nevertheless posters of Miss Soltan's face have started to appear all over Tehran.

The attempted crackdown came as friends present as Miss Soltan died came forward to detail what happened.

Hamid Panahi, her friend and music teacher, told the Los Angeles Times how Miss Soltan was shot as they and two others were making their way to a demonstration in Freedom Square in central Tehran. Their car became stuck in traffic on Karegar Street and they got out for some air.

Mr Panahi said that he heard a distant crack and saw Miss Soltan instantly collapse to the ground.

"We were stuck in traffic and we got out and stood to watch and, without her throwing a rock or anything, they shot her," he said. "It was just one bullet."

He later heard other witnesses claiming that the gunman was not a police officer but one of a group of plainclothes officials or Basiji militia.

He recalled watching in horror as blood came out of her chest and then began to bubble from her nose and mouth - footage that bystanders captured on their mobile phones and posted on the internet, where she has become a global phenomenon.

Mr Panahi said that Neda's last words before she slipped into unconsciousness were: "I'm burning! I'm burning!"

A doctor who tried to help ordered him to cover the wound with his hand and press down. A driver coming the other way offered to take her to hospital in his car, but they took a wrong turn down a dead end and had to switch her body to another car.

Protesters screamed at drivers to clear away through the jams but Neda was dead before she reached the operating theatre at Shariati Hospital, said Mr Panahi.

"She was a person full of joy," he added. "She was a beam of light. I'm so sorry. I was so hopeful for this woman...

"This is a crime that's not in support of the government, this is a crime against humanity."

Family and friends who called at the apartment in great numbers to pay their respects said that Neda was born in Tehran, the second of three children. Her father is a civil servant on a modest salary and her mother a housewife.

After studying Islamic philosophy at Azad university in Tehran, she decided to work in tourism, taking private lessons to become a tour guide and studying Turkish with a view to leading tour groups abroad.

She is said to have loved travel and she and two friends had been on package tours to Thailand, Dubai and, two months ago, to Turkey. Persian pop music was one of her passions and she was taking piano lessons. She was also a talented singer.

Miss Soltan was not a political activist, said her friends. It was her anger at the election results that impelled her out onto the streets to join Saturday's protest.

Friends had begged her not to go, but she replied that she was not afraid to die. "Don't worry, it's just one bullet and then it's over."

"She couldn't stand the injustice of it," said Mr Panahi. "All she wanted was the proper vote of the people to be counted. She wanted to show with her presence that, 'I'm here, I also voted, and my vote wasn't counted'. It was a very peaceful act of protest, without any violence."

Denied a public funeral, the mourners travelled in minivans to Behesht Zahra cemetery where Neda was laid to rest on Sunday afternoon. It was a muted affair, as they were - to their fury - under official orders not to sing her praises loudly or to mourn her loss.

They declined to speak but Mr Panahi said he had nothing left to lose in speaking out. "They know me. They know where I am. They can come and get me whenever they want. My time has gone. We have to think about the young people.

"When they kill an innocent child, that is not justice. That is not religion. In no way is this acceptable."



6/24/2009 1:49:47 PM EDT
[#1]
I hope they keep the posters up fuck those religious nut jobs in power in Iran
6/24/2009 1:53:35 PM EDT
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Friends had begged her not to go, but she replied that she was not afraid to die. "Don't worry, it's just one bullet and then it's over."
Wow, that is extremely eerie!
"When they kill an innocent child, that is not justice. That is not religion. In no way is this acceptable." He said a mouthful there.
6/24/2009 1:54:28 PM EDT
[#3]
I don't think that many will forget her face for some time.  And she's now part of the cry against the gov of Iran.  

Breitbart - Police 'crush' revolt

EDITOR'S NOTE: Iranian authorities have barred journalists for international news organizations from reporting on the streets and ordered them to stay in their offices. This report is based on the accounts of witnesses reached in Iran and official statements carried on Iranian media.



It looks like the wheels are coming off; as well as the kiddie gloves.  

A flood of security forces using tear gas and clubs quickly overwhelmed a small group of rock-throwing protesters near Iran's parliament Wednesday, and the country's supreme leader said the outcome of the disputed presidential election will stand—the latest signs of the government's growing confidence in quelling unrest on the streets.

As the election showdown has shifted, demonstrators are finding themselves increasingly scattered and struggling under a blanket crackdown that the wife of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi compared to martial law. In Wednesday's clashes, thousands of police crushed hundreds of Mousavi supporters.

The statement by supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that the June 12 election of hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would not be reversed was accompanied by a vow that the nation's rulers would never yield to demands from the streets.

Since last week's protests, the government has unleashed days of escalating force, including the full weight of the powerful Revolutionary Guard and its feared civilian militias on the opposition.

Social networking sites carried claims of brutal tactics by police such as savage beatings with batons, but the report could not be independently confirmed.

In the battle for public opinion, the leaders also ramped up a familiar smear campaign: that the opposition was being aided by the United States and other perceived foes of Iran.

What began as groundswell protest of alleged vote fraud increasingly appears to be splintering into random acts of rage and frustration against emboldened and well-armed security forces determined to hold their ground.

Many experts in Iranian affairs do not believe the dwindling street protests signal an end for the challenges to Khamenei and the regime. Many foresee lower-risk—but still potent—acts of dissent such as general strikes, blocking traffic with sit-ins, and the nightly cries of protest from rooftops and balconies.

"It will carry on until the regime changes: Weeks, months, years. You'd be a fool to predict," said Robert Hunter, a former U.S. ambassador to NATO and head of Middle East Affairs in the Carter administration. "But the beast of the desire for something different is on the prowl."

Senior Israeli Defense Ministry official Amos Gilad told The Associated Press that he sees no "signs of Ahmadinejad's regime collapsing any time soon."

"The intelligence community worldwide were surprised by the protests," he said.

There are still signs of life in the protest movement. Small groups battled police Wednesday and there were calls on reformist Web sites for a gathering Thursday at the shrine of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

But Mousavi has increasingly turned his back on mass street demonstrations, fearing the likelihood of more violence or deaths.

Wednesday's unrest showed the lopsided odds. Groups of protesters—perhaps several hundred—tossed rocks and trash at riot police in running clashes outside parliament. The demonstrators fled as police used tear gas and fired in the air, possibly with live ammunition.

Throughout the day, black-clad security agents and police watched main streets and squares to prevent any major gatherings—a stark difference from last week when authorities generally stood aside and allowed a series of marches that brought more than 1 million people streaming through Tehran.

Mousavi's wife, Zahra Rahnavard—a former university dean who campaigned beside her husband—said on a Web site that the crackdown is "as if martial law has been imposed in the streets."

It also could be an indication of what's ahead—unless the protest movement can recapture its momentum.

The fallout may leave Khamenei and the ruling theocracy battered by once-unthinkable defiance of their leadership. But they still control the Revolutionary Guard and its vast network of volunteer militias that watch every corner of Iran.

The Guard—sworn to defend the Islamic system at all costs—has been steadily expanding its authority for years to include critical portfolios such as Iran's missile program, its oil pipelines and other energy infrastructure, and some oversight of the nuclear program.

Their stake in the Islamic system is deep and they appear now to have the green light to move against any perceived threats.

Their militia wing, known as the Basij, can operate like a neighbor-by-neighbor intelligence agency.

"The Revolutionary Guard may well emerge as the big winner of all this," said Patrick Clawson, deputy director at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

State television aired a documentary Wednesday lauding the Revolutionary Guard and another show about the dangers of the Internet and claiming that "Iran's enemies" were using the Web to whip up dissent.

Dozens of activists, protesters and Iranian journalists—and at least one foreign reporter—have been detained since the election, human rights groups say. The overall death toll is not clear; state media said at least 17 people have been killed. Amateur video showed the death Saturday of a woman identified as Neda Agha Soltan, who has become a worldwide symbol of the bloodshed.

A 53-year-old Tehran woman described the intense security around Baharestan Square near parliament: "There was a lot of police, riot police and Basiji everywhere." The woman spoke by phone to the AP, asking for anonymity because of fears of reprisals from authorities.

The chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency, Meir Dagan, told a closed session of the Parliamentary Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that he believes the demonstrations in Iran would die down and Ahmadinejad would stay in power.

He also said the Mossad expects Iran to have nuclear weapons by 2014. Meir's statements were recounted by a participant in the meeting, speaking on condition of anonymity because the meeting was closed.

The United States and its allies worry that Iran's program could lead to nuclear weapons, but Iran insists it only seeks peaceful reactors to produce electricity.

President Barack Obama has offered to open talks with Iran's leaders to ease a nearly 30-year diplomatic estrangement. But he sharpened his rhetoric Tuesday, saying he was "appalled and outraged" by Tehran's heavy hand against protesters.

It's not clear how the unrest—Iran's worst internal turmoil since the Islamic Revolution—would influence possible talks with Washington. It's clear, however, that the leadership has no intention of abandoning Ahmadinejad.

An offer for Iranian envoys around the world to attend U.S. Embassy Fourth of July parties has been rescinded "given the events of the past many days," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. The invitation was part of a U.S. outreach to Iran, but so far no Iranian officials had accepted.

Khamenei said the government would not buckle to pressures over the election, closing the door to compromise over Mousavi's claim that the vote was rigged and he was the rightful winner.

"On the current situation, I was insisting and will insist on implementation of the law. That means, we will not go one step beyond the law," Khamenei said on state television. "For sure, neither the system nor the people will give in to pressures at any price." He used language that indicated he was referring to domestic pressures.

A conservative candidate in the disputed election, Mohsen Rezaie, said he was withdrawing his complaints about vote fraud for the sake of the country, state TV reported. Rezaie is a former commander of Revolutionary Guard and his decision suggests the Guard seeks to avoid possible rifts as Ahmadinejad begins his second, four-year term.

State TV reported that Ahmadinejad would be sworn in between July 26 and Aug. 19.

Khamenei also reinforced Iran's accusations that the United States, Britain and other foreign powers were encouraging the unrest—apparently part of a coordinated strategy to disgrace Mousavi and his followers.

State television showed detained demonstrators whose faces were blurred out. Some of them made "confessions," saying they had been incited by the British Broadcasting Corp. and Voice of America. They said demonstrators, not security forces, had used violence.

"We torched public property, threw stones, attacked cars and smashed windows," said one woman, who was not identified.

State-run Press TV also said police raided a building it identified as a Mousavi campaign office and allegedly used as a base to promote unrest. The report said the suspected plotters had been arrested and placed under investigation.
6/24/2009 1:54:29 PM EDT
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I hope they keep the posters up fuck those religious nut jobs in power in Iran

+1
Fuck Nobama too
6/24/2009 1:54:46 PM EDT
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I hope they keep the posters up fuck those religious nut jobs in power in Iran




+ a fucking trillion.........................................
6/24/2009 2:21:56 PM EDT
[#6]
They say that death is harder on the living. I can't imagine how her family must feel right now. They won't even let them "mourn". If I knew how, I'd ship her dad an AK and a pallet of ammo.
6/24/2009 2:28:28 PM EDT
[#7]
She was a pretty woman.

Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?
6/24/2009 2:30:58 PM EDT
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From The Times Online:


Mr Panahi said that Neda's last words before she slipped into unconsciousness were: "I'm burning! I'm burning!"






6/24/2009 2:31:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Wag the Dog/Jessica Lynch, anyone?
6/24/2009 2:32:17 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's fucking ruthless what the Iranian govt are doing to their own people. They are even making the families of the victims they shoot and kill pay for the bullets that killed their family members.






I am not Iranian, but I still got very emotional over watching what happened to Neda. Cold blooded fucking murder.






This regime is fucking evil. I wish we could give these people material support.



 
6/24/2009 2:32:53 PM EDT
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Wag the Dog/Jessica Lynch, anyone?





 
6/24/2009 2:35:12 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.

Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?

Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.

It sure looks like it.

6/24/2009 2:36:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Good lookin' woman. 'Tis a shame.
6/24/2009 2:37:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's fucking ruthless what the Iranian govt are doing to their own people. They are even making the families of the victims they shoot and kill pay for the bullets that killed their family members.



I am not Iranian, but I still got very emotional over watching what happened to Neda. Cold blooded fucking murder.



This regime is fucking evil. I wish we could give these people material support.

 


Reports coming it today indicate the Iranian government has increased the scale of the slaughter to Tiananmen Square levels.



 
6/24/2009 2:41:19 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.



 
6/24/2009 2:43:23 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.

Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?

Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.

It sure looks like it.



Good eye. I wouldn't have noticed if it hadn't been pointed out. Damn shame. Hopefully she didn't die in vain.
6/24/2009 2:44:45 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.








A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.


 



I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and





 
6/24/2009 2:45:35 PM EDT
[#18]
She was shot because she dared to venture outside without covering her hair.  






Well,  the harder the authorities try to clamp down, the more determined the resistance will be.  Mark my words, this IS the start of

an Iranian revolution and every lover of freedom in the world should enthusiastically encourage and support the upcoming revolution

and eradication of the current ruling class of Iran.





CJ




6/24/2009 2:48:57 PM EDT
[#19]
I've seen it reported that her family has been evicted from their home by the Iranian government.
6/24/2009 2:50:36 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?



 
6/24/2009 2:51:01 PM EDT
[#21]
I agree with most of the people on the subject of this girl being shot, a terrible tragedy, the govt in Iran is evil, and everything else but what really bothers me is in this country and the way our media works, if this wasn't an attractive young woman, we would never have heard her name.  we wouldn't know a thing about her.
6/24/2009 2:52:36 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.








A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.


 



I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.





I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and


 



You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?


 



I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......



Lets keep this civil





 
6/24/2009 2:54:03 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 


I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......



Lets keep this civil

 


88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.



 
6/24/2009 2:56:49 PM EDT
[#24]



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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 




My guess is as a woman she wanted to live in the 21st century and not the 7th century.







Why else? Enlighten us.





 
6/24/2009 2:57:08 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.








A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.


 



I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.





I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and


 



You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?


 



I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......





Lets keep this civil


 



88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.


 



Right, still that is fucking stupid to say.





I've worked with many muslims in Iraq, and they aren't the bogeymen that alot of racist people try to make them out to be.





 
6/24/2009 2:58:41 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 


I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......



Lets keep this civil

 


88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.

 



There you go again.








Calm down guys



 
6/24/2009 3:00:20 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 






My guess is as a woman she wanted to live in the 21st century and not the 7th century.











Why else? Enlighten us.





 


Christians, Jews and others are second class people there. She wants her freedom, just like every other Iranian, possibly more-so as a member of a second class group. That is my point.



Why is it somebody calls Racist or Nazi in every other thread?



 
6/24/2009 3:00:54 PM EDT
[#28]
I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind

My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......

Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.

Freedom fot the Iranian people.
6/24/2009 3:01:04 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 


I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......



Lets keep this civil

 


88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.

 


Right, still that is fucking stupid to say.



I've worked with many muslims in Iraq, and they aren't the bogeymen that alot of racist people try to make them out to be.

 


WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIM PEOPLE?



Holy shit you need to read more closely.



 
6/24/2009 3:01:49 PM EDT
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I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind



My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......



Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.



Freedom fot the Iranian people.


So did I. Apparently somebody is crusading for others today.



 
6/24/2009 3:03:19 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.








A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.


 



I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.





I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and


 



You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?


 



I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......





Lets keep this civil


 



88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.


 



Right, still that is fucking stupid to say.





I've worked with many muslims in Iraq, and they aren't the bogeymen that alot of racist people try to make them out to be.


 



WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIM PEOPLE?





Holy shit you need to read more closely.


 



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Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?



I could have interpreted it wrong, but when most people I know have said stuff like that, were insinuating that all muslims are blood thirsty and not afraid to sacrifice their own life to kill other people.



If not, than I apologize.





 
6/24/2009 3:03:45 PM EDT
[#32]
See sig \/
6/24/2009 3:04:04 PM EDT
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Christians, Jews and others are second class people there. She wants her freedom, just like every other Iranian, possibly more-so as a member of a second class group. That is my point.
Why is it somebody calls Racist or Nazi in every other thread?



 




Well I think everyone agrees then, even you two.
In fairness to ArmyInfantryVet your post could read like you thought the girl has some sinister motive.
 
6/24/2009 3:04:07 PM EDT
[#34]
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I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind

My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......

Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.

Freedom fot the Iranian people.


Amen.
6/24/2009 3:06:17 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.

 


I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.



I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and

 


You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?

 


I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......



Lets keep this civil

 


88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.

 


Right, still that is fucking stupid to say.



I've worked with many muslims in Iraq, and they aren't the bogeymen that alot of racist people try to make them out to be.

 


WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIM PEOPLE?



Holy shit you need to read more closely.

 


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Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?


I could have interpreted it wrong, but when most people I know have said stuff like that, were insinuating that all muslims are blood thirsty and not afraid to sacrifice their own life to kill other people.

 


Was she fighting Muslims in general or the Theocratic Government that oppresses her and others? Gee, I don't know. I am not most people. Most people you know must be ignorant fools.



Read a little closer or ask for clarification before you level people as Nazis and Racists.



 
6/24/2009 3:07:15 PM EDT
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I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind

My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......

Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.

Freedom fot the Iranian people.


Amen.


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6/24/2009 3:07:19 PM EDT
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Christians, Jews and others are second class people there. She wants her freedom, just like every other Iranian, possibly more-so as a member of a second class group. That is my point.



Why is it somebody calls Racist or Nazi in every other thread?

 


Well I think everyone agrees then, even you two.



In fairness to ArmyInfantryVet your post could read like you thought the girl has some sinister motive.





 


So call someone a Nazi because you don't understand? Yeah, sound acceptable.



 
6/24/2009 3:10:21 PM EDT
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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.








A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.


 



I gives a fuck if she was a Muslim. It was still outrageous what they did to her. A human is a human, no matter what religion.





I hope the Iranian freedom seekers overthrow them and hold their government accountable for their crimes and


 



You are a jack ass. Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?


 



I see the thread is bringing out the 88s......





Lets keep this civil


 



88? I AM A FUCKING JEW YOU SILLY SOD.


 



Right, still that is fucking stupid to say.





I've worked with many muslims in Iraq, and they aren't the bogeymen that alot of racist people try to make them out to be.


 



WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MUSLIM PEOPLE?





Holy shit you need to read more closely.


 



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Do you know WHY she was so willing to lay her life down to fight these guys?



I could have interpreted it wrong, but when most people I know have said stuff like that, were insinuating that all muslims are blood thirsty and not afraid to sacrifice their own life to kill other people.


 



Was she fighting Muslims in general or the Theocratic Government that oppresses her and others? Gee, I don't know. I am not most people. Most people you know must be ignorant fools.





Read a little closer or ask for clarification before you level people as Nazis and Racists.


 



Of all the anti-muslim bs I see going on ARFCOM, no one really deserves the benefit of the doubt. We are fighting muslim EXTREMISTS who attacked us, not the religion itself.





I don't care if I get flamed for it. But unless you served overseas and dealt with people who were all muslim, you have no authority on saying what kind of people they are.





 
6/24/2009 3:11:12 PM EDT
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Christians, Jews and others are second class people there. She wants her freedom, just like every other Iranian, possibly more-so as a member of a second class group. That is my point.



Why is it somebody calls Racist or Nazi in every other thread?

 


Well I think everyone agrees then, even you two.



In fairness to ArmyInfantryVet your post could read like you thought the girl has some sinister motive.





 


So call someone a Nazi because you don't understand? Yeah, sound acceptable.

 



Calm down, the phrase in fairness implies ArmyInfantryVet made a mistake, which he has admitted and apologized for.





Lets get back on subject.



 
6/24/2009 3:16:06 PM EDT
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But unless you served overseas and dealt with people who were all muslim, you have no authority on saying what kind of people they are.


 









THAT is the stupidest comment I have ever read. You are an expert on Muslims because you went to the ME? Are you fucking kidding me?





 
6/24/2009 3:18:29 PM EDT
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The fuck happened to this thread ?



Who the fuck cares what religion she was she died for freedom and you idiots soil her name over religion typical
6/24/2009 3:20:54 PM EDT
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The fuck happened to this thread ?



Who the fuck cares what religion she was she died for freedom and you idiots soil her name over religion typical


I already said I could care less about religion. It was someone else that decided to make a comment about no wonder she was so willing to die, because she was a muslim.



But I am done arguing about that.



 
6/24/2009 3:21:30 PM EDT
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OK guys keep pissing on the thread and in effect on the girl.

 
6/24/2009 3:23:02 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's fucking ruthless what the Iranian govt are doing to their
own people. They are even making the families of the victims they shoot
and kill pay for the bullets that killed their family members.
I am not Iranian, but I still got very emotional over watching what happened to Neda. Cold blooded fucking murder.
This regime is fucking evil. I wish we could give these people material support.

 
6/24/2009 3:23:17 PM EDT
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I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind

My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......

Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.

Freedom fot the Iranian people.

So did I. Apparently somebody is crusading for others today.
 


Which others...

This whole thread os is a clusterfuck.

Everybody needs to put their dicks back in their pants, cease and desist from willy battles and start talking sense.

Jews, Nazis and all the other fucktards that can't see outside their own stupid fucking mentalities need to wise the fuck up and see that when an unarmed girl REGARDLESS OF RELIGION is targeted and murdered, then the world around that girl is turning into shit.......

Grow a fucking spine, shut your whiney fucking asses up and start looking at the bigger picture.

C'mon guys, you're better than this shit

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I thought this thread was about an Iranian girl who was murdered.......... why does it have to be hijacked by everyone with an axe to grind



My thought;s are with her family and the Iranian people.......



Fuck they Ayatollah and his puppet government.



Freedom fot the Iranian people.


Plus fucking one.



 
6/24/2009 3:29:32 PM EDT
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The fuck happened to this thread ?
Who the fuck cares what religion she was she died for freedom and you idiots soil her name over religion typical




I already said I could care less about religion. It was someone else that decided to make a comment about no wonder she was so willing to die, because she was a muslim.
But I am done arguing about that.



 




Because she is a Christian... look at the necklace.


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She was a pretty woman.





Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?



Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.





It sure looks like it.










A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.






Again, READ.

 
6/24/2009 3:32:41 PM EDT
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The fuck happened to this thread ?

Who the fuck cares what religion she was she died for freedom and you idiots soil her name over religion typical

I already said I could care less about religion. It was someone else that decided to make a comment about no wonder she was so willing to die, because she was a muslim.

But I am done arguing about that.
 

Because she is a Christian... look at the necklace. WTF?

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She was a pretty woman.

Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?

Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.

It sure looks like it.


A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.



 


Fairplay.

However religion is irrelevant.

She was targeted because of politics not religion..... and that's why she died..... don't tarnish this with the bullshit that IS religion.
6/24/2009 3:35:21 PM EDT
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I'm sure it's been said before, but one lesson Neda's death should remind us all of is that unarmed people are targets.


Also, less thread-shitting would be lovely.
6/24/2009 3:37:35 PM EDT
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The fuck happened to this thread ?



Who the fuck cares what religion she was she died for freedom and you idiots soil her name over religion typical


I already said I could care less about religion. It was someone else that decided to make a comment about no wonder she was so willing to die, because she was a muslim.



But I am done arguing about that.



Because she is a Christian... look at the necklace.
WTF?





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She was a pretty woman.



Is that a cross she is wearing around her neck in the above pic?


Yes, she was. And sounds like she was smart and talented.



It sure looks like it.





A christian in Iran, no wonder she died for a cause.










Fairplay.



However religion is irrelevant.



She was targeted because of politics not religion..... and that's why she died..... don't tarnish this with the bullshit that IS religion.




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