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5/29/2009 6:44:35 AM EDT
Have any of you tried the Fire Safe cigarettes?

If you do not know if your cigarettes are "fire safe", look at the side of the pack, there will be a "FSC" above the bar code.  BTW, I read somewhere that in the next couple of years FSCs are to be mandatory nationwide.

I have noticed over the past couple of months, that I have had upper respiratory infections, excess congestion, and cough a lot more.

I know that smoking is not the smart "thing" to do, but we all have our vices.  I'm done.  I feel like shit a lot more than I used to because of smoking these cigarettes.  

If you seek to preach to me about the dangers of smoking, please don't.  I am aware of them and I am trying to help myself.

I was just curious if anyone else had the same reaction to these cigarettes.

Here's to quitting,
B_S
5/29/2009 6:48:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Finally!

Been waiting for this subject. Everything you say is what i've been experiencing.

Fcking cigarettes turn off about halfway, smell wierd, taste wierd, I dunno, it must be a vast rightwing conspiracy.
5/29/2009 6:58:43 AM EDT
[#2]
items intended to burn made fireproof...............yep, something tells me the .gov was involved
5/29/2009 7:21:09 AM EDT
[#3]
they suck. I would love to find pre fsc - are they still available? I didn't realize exactly what the change was, just that there was something different. I thought they had just used more paper or something to save cost as they seem to make more ash..
5/29/2009 7:25:06 AM EDT
[#4]
My camels have no such label above the barcode. I know they added those 'lines' in the paper to keep from burning without puffing. Anyone have additional information on what these fire safe smokes are all about?



ETA:



Found "FSC" stamped on the cellophane on the bottom of my camels. WTF!

5/29/2009 7:27:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Info here



So it is the lines in the paper. Shit they have been doing that for years. I guess I don't even recall when they made the switch.
5/29/2009 7:28:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
My camels have no such label above the barcode. I know they added those 'lines' in the paper to keep from burning without puffing. Anyone have additional information on what these fire safe smokes are all about?

ETA:

Found "FSC" stamped on the cellophane on the bottom of my camels. WTF!


our camels have the "fsc" printed on the cellophane (sp?) on the bottom of the pack

yes they taste like shit and yes i hate them, think ill start rolling my own now.
5/29/2009 7:29:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Maybe those are the ones I had up in Buffalo earlier this year.

I figured because they were 8 bucks a pack nobody bought them so they were stale.

Looks like if I ever decide to start smoking again I'll need to roll my own.
5/29/2009 7:30:31 AM EDT
[#8]
KY has them.  They do suck.
5/29/2009 7:37:48 AM EDT
[#9]
They are required in Texas now. We spent the better part of a month debating whether to switch brands because Camels seemed to never stay lit any more before we figured out what was going on. So stupid.
5/29/2009 7:39:05 AM EDT
[#10]
I know this.
DOD standards for some DI-72 scaffold planks sometimes call for a fireproof lumber treatment. I have no clue why the military needs fireproof lumber.. maybe they weld on or near it..
Anyway, that chemical used to fireproof lumber is very toxic, even the sawdust from it.
5/29/2009 7:46:03 AM EDT
[#11]
I haven't been able to enjoy a cig for three months because of those f#$@ing things.



GM
5/29/2009 7:59:42 AM EDT
[#12]
They suck.  They taste like shit and I have to smoke fast and hot to keep from having to relight and glowing ash blows all over the fucking place.
This stupid shit is going to kill more people than any regular cigarette fire ever did.
But that's OK - fuck the smokers.  Just wait 'til they start adding caffeine to alcohol in an effort to curb DUIs.





 
5/29/2009 8:03:01 AM EDT
[#13]
Never had a problem with them



Been smoking them for 3 years now



On Chantix now, Today is my last day of smoking.
5/29/2009 8:10:48 AM EDT
[#14]
I just checked, my 27's have the FSC above the bar code.  I never even noticed the difference.
5/29/2009 8:11:38 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Never had a problem with them

Been smoking them for 3 years now

On Chantix now, Today is my last day of smoking.


Good luck.
5/29/2009 8:13:48 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm against them. Fires started by people falling asleep smoking are a form of natural selection.

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5/29/2009 8:43:42 AM EDT
[#17]
yes they taste like shit and fuck you up more thats why i run to missouri and stock up every now and then
5/29/2009 9:56:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Never had a problem with them

Been smoking them for 3 years now

On Chantix now, Today is my last day of smoking.


Good luck to you, too!  I have quit (for years) in the past by going cold turkey; I just get bored sometimes and pick it back up.

B_S
5/29/2009 10:08:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Have any of you tried the Fire Safe cigarettes?

If you do not know if your cigarettes are "fire safe", look at the side of the pack, there will be a "FSC" above the bar code.  BTW, I read somewhere that in the next couple of years FSCs are to be mandatory nationwide.

I have noticed over the past couple of months, that I have had upper respiratory infections, excess congestion, and cough a lot more.

I know that smoking is not the smart "thing" to do, but we all have our vices.  I'm done.  I feel like shit a lot more than I used to because of smoking these cigarettes.  

If you seek to preach to me about the dangers of smoking, please don't.  I am aware of them and I am trying to help myself.

I was just curious if anyone else had the same reaction to these cigarettes.

Here's to quitting,
B_S


Ayup...why I've been cutting back and heading to zero.  Nice of gov to mandate the additional chemicals wasn't it.  
5/29/2009 12:34:00 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:


Ayup...why I've been cutting back and heading to zero. Nice of gov to mandate the additional chemicals wasn't it.  


Your statement is pure bullshit.

About fire safe cigarettes

A fire-safe cigarette has a reduced propensity to burn when left unattended. The most common fire-safe technology used by cigarette manufacturers is to wrap cigarettes with two or three thin bands of less-porous paper that act as “speed bumps” to slow down a burning cigarette. If a fire-safe cigarette is left unattended, the burning tobacco will reach one of these speed bumps and self-extinguish.  

Fire-safe cigarettes meet an established cigarette fire safety performance standard, based on ASTM E2187, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Ignition Strength of Cigarettes.


Best of luck to you on your effort to quit.

5/29/2009 3:10:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Ayup...why I've been cutting back and heading to zero. Nice of gov to mandate the additional chemicals wasn't it.  


Your statement is pure bullshit.

About fire safe cigarettes

A fire-safe cigarette has a reduced propensity to burn when left unattended. The most common fire-safe technology used by cigarette manufacturers is to wrap cigarettes with two or three thin bands of less-porous paper that act as “speed bumps” to slow down a burning cigarette. If a fire-safe cigarette is left unattended, the burning tobacco will reach one of these speed bumps and self-extinguish.  

Fire-safe cigarettes meet an established cigarette fire safety performance standard, based on ASTM E2187, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Ignition Strength of Cigarettes.


Best of luck to you on your effort to quit.



Not exactly BS.

Wiki page

Fire safe cigarettes are produced by adding bands of EVA (ethylene vinyl acetate) to the cigarette paper during manufacturing, in order to decrease burn rate at the bands.[23] The combustion toxicity of EVA has not been studied to any extent, but combustion byproducts are known to include carbon monoxide and "unknown hydrocarbons".[24]



23 is the patent number.  24 leads to the MSDS sheet.

MSDS Sheet


Form the sheet:  
Effects of Chronic Exposure:  The toxicological properties have not been fully evaluated.  Use of good industrial hygiene practices is required.  Avoid direct contact with skin or eyes.  Do not ingest or inhale.


Anyways, thanks for the wish of luck on my quitting.

5/29/2009 3:16:03 PM EDT
[#22]
They taste like fucking shit and are pretty much the sole reason I quit smoking.
5/29/2009 3:26:06 PM EDT
[#23]
They're working on water that isn't wet.

For the children.
5/30/2009 2:18:32 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


Ayup...why I've been cutting back and heading to zero. Nice of gov to mandate the additional chemicals wasn't it.  


Your statement is pure bullshit.

About fire safe cigarettes

A fire-safe cigarette has a reduced propensity to burn when left unattended. The most common fire-safe technology used by cigarette manufacturers is to wrap cigarettes with two or three thin bands of less-porous paper that act as “speed bumps” to slow down a burning cigarette. If a fire-safe cigarette is left unattended, the burning tobacco will reach one of these speed bumps and self-extinguish.  

Fire-safe cigarettes meet an established cigarette fire safety performance standard, based on ASTM E2187, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Ignition Strength of Cigarettes.


Best of luck to you on your effort to quit.



Not exactly BS.

Wiki page

Fire safe cigarettes are produced by adding bands of EVA (ethylene vinyl acetate) to the cigarette paper during manufacturing, in order to decrease burn rate at the bands.[23] The combustion toxicity of EVA has not been studied to any extent, but combustion byproducts are known to include carbon monoxide and "unknown hydrocarbons".[24]



23 is the patent number.  24 leads to the MSDS sheet.

MSDS Sheet


Form the sheet:  
Effects of Chronic Exposure:  The toxicological properties have not been fully evaluated.  Use of good industrial hygiene practices is required.  Avoid direct contact with skin or eyes.  Do not ingest or inhale.


Anyways, thanks for the wish of luck on my quitting.



Unfortunately you choose to believe the bs that is passed of as information at wikipedia.

Try this Harvard Study.

p.s. I have no interest in the success or failure of reduced burn propensity cigarettes, I just don't like so called experts pushing bs over the internet.
5/30/2009 2:24:35 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Never had a problem with them

Been smoking them for 3 years now

On Chantix now, Today is my last day of smoking.


Chantix FTW!  Enjoying the dreams yet?  Mine were like frickin IMAX war movies from hell on acid.  I would go back on the pill just for the dreams!

5/30/2009 2:32:18 AM EDT
[#26]
I FUCKING HATE THOSE CIGS!!!!
5/30/2009 3:13:23 AM EDT
[#27]
I love Missouri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/30/2009 3:29:03 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
yes they taste like shit and fuck you up more thats why i run to missouri and stock up every now and then


I live in kcmo, and when the price went up i tried different brands. They all had FSC on them.