Posted: 5/23/2009 9:53:06 AM EDT
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Felon retains gun rights. Class C felon (non-violent)....unemployment fraud? Narrow tailoring of laws to preserve basic right? Not yet, but the discussion is going that way. 1994 Amendment in Alaska The legislative history of the 1994 amendment unequivocally reveals that the drafters and supporters of this amendment intended to prohibit the legislature from enacting firearms laws that were merely “reasonable”. The proponents of the amendment repeatedly declared that they wanted to set the constitutional bar higher: they wanted to prohibit the legislature from enacting any firearms law that was not supported by, and narrowly tailored to, a compelling state interest. |
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Most (gun rights) people feel losing firearms rights as a result of a felony conviction is reasonable. What they don't realize is what constitutes a felony in moder police state America. i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) i am also not upset that felons lose some of their rights upon conviction, if more people cared about the power that they weild in their vote, maybe they would not commit crimes? however i can only speak for myself a quick lesson on criminal activity - criminal acts are generally preceeded by 3 thoughts (conciously or unconciously) - CERTIANTY, SEVERITY and SOLARITY 1 CERTIANTY - the certianty that the criminal will get caught 2 SEVERITY - the severity of the punishment upon being caught 3 SOLARITY - the swiftness of the punsihment enacted upon being caught - the best way to descrbe this in action is the "Hot Stove". how many times did you touch the hot stove before you realised it was a bad idea?? my guess is 1 - 2 times at most. - Now WHY did you not touch the stove again?? BECAUSE you learned that by "touching the stove" (being caught comiting a crime) you were "hurt" (severly punished) and you "felt the burn" immediatly (punishment was swiftly enacted) - Now ask yourself, why do criminals continue to rob 7-11's / liquior stores / quickie marts/ etc, because they have learned that there is a low chance of being caught, they may get 2-3 years if no one is hurt and it may take 2 years for their cse to come up in front of a judge. if everytime a person went to rob a store the person was shot dead i think you would find the number of robberies would take a dramatic down turn. questions class?? i also cant spell |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights.
Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. 
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An interesting thing about Alaska law is that Felons can own and carry long arms. The case notes he was arrested for owning a "concealable firearm."
THis does not prevent the Federales from going after a felon with a rifle, but the troopers and city cops should not raise a fuss about a felon with a long arm. |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights. Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. There would be no Alaskans which could legally own guns. 
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| if you are a free man (out in the free world) why should you not have the ability to defend yourself with any means that you or I have? What other rights should we take away from felons? Should we be able to search them with out a warrant? Or take away their right to free speech? |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights. Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. Sarcasm I hope. |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights. Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. Sarcasm I hope. From what i have read in some of his other posts, I doubt it. I'm guessing he actually thinks that that would be a good idea. The reality is doing so would be horribly problematic on multiple levels. |
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i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) .... questions class?? Yeah, I have a question or two. Do you have an old coffee can or some former margerine container in your garage holding nails and/or screws? Do you have some other container, say an ammo box marked 100 CRTG .50 CAL that is holding 5.56mm NATOP rounds? If so, then congratulations! You sir, are a felon! It is a federal felony to have a product in a container that is inconsistent with its labeling. Now the big questions, why should you become a felon because you put screws in a Maxwell House can, and how long should you reasonably be imprisoned in a federal PMITA prison for it, along of course, with the very reasonable complete abrogation of your firearms rights? |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights. Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. Say what???????? 
So the Military shouldn't vote either then? |
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Quoted: Quoted: i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) .... questions class?? Yeah, I have a question or two. Do you have an old coffee can or some former margerine container in your garage holding nails and/or screws? Do you have some other container, say an ammo box marked 100 CRTG .50 CAL that is holding 5.56mm NATOP rounds? If so, then congratulations! You sir, are a felon! It is a federal felony to have a product in a container that is inconsistent with its labeling. Now the big questions, why should you become a felon because you put screws in a Maxwell House can, and how long should you reasonably be imprisoned in a federal PMITA prison for it, along of course, with the very reasonable complete abrogation of your firearms rights? When you're out hiking...don't pick up any eagle feathers, either. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) .... questions class?? Yeah, I have a question or two. Do you have an old coffee can or some former margerine container in your garage holding nails and/or screws? Do you have some other container, say an ammo box marked 100 CRTG .50 CAL that is holding 5.56mm NATOP rounds? If so, then congratulations! You sir, are a felon! It is a federal felony to have a product in a container that is inconsistent with its labeling. Now the big questions, why should you become a felon because you put screws in a Maxwell House can, and how long should you reasonably be imprisoned in a federal PMITA prison for it, along of course, with the very reasonable complete abrogation of your firearms rights? The Truth in Packeging Act regulates how manufacturers and retailers package, advertise, promote and sell products. To my knowledge, it has no clauses pertaining to what end-users/consumers do for their own private STORAGE solutions. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Most (gun rights) people feel losing firearms rights as a result of a felony conviction is reasonable. What they don't realize is what constitutes a felony in moder police state America. i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) i am also not upset that felons lose some of their rights upon conviction, if more people cared about the power that they weild in their vote, maybe they would not commit crimes? however i can only speak for myself a quick lesson on criminal activity - criminal acts are generally preceeded by 3 thoughts (conciously or unconciously) - CERTIANTY, SEVERITY and SOLARITY 1 CERTIANTY - the certianty that the criminal will get caught 2 SEVERITY - the severity of the punishment upon being caught 3 SOLARITY - the swiftness of the punsihment enacted upon being caught - the best way to descrbe this in action is the "Hot Stove". how many times did you touch the hot stove before you realised it was a bad idea?? my guess is 1 - 2 times at most. - Now WHY did you not touch the stove again?? BECAUSE you learned that by "touching the stove" (being caught comiting a crime) you were "hurt" (severly punished) and you "felt the burn" immediatly (punishment was swiftly enacted) - Now ask yourself, why do criminals continue to rob 7-11's / liquior stores / quickie marts/ etc, because they have learned that there is a low chance of being caught, they may get 2-3 years if no one is hurt and it may take 2 years for their cse to come up in front of a judge. if everytime a person went to rob a store the person was shot dead i think you would find the number of robberies would take a dramatic down turn. questions class?? i also cant spell Certainty, Severity, Celerity And you're right. Those are the governing aspects of all appropriate punishment. |
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The Truth in Packeging Act regulates how manufacturers and retailers package, advertise, promote and sell products. To my knowledge, it has no clauses pertaining to what end-users/consumers do for their own private STORAGE solutions. Nope. Remember, that was put into place because of the Tylenol poisonings. They wanted a way to nail anybody who tampered with a package. Keep looking. Also, in many states it is illegal to put your meds in a container other than the original container. Grandma puts her heart and BP meds in a daily pill reminder? Felony on the second try in GA. |
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FELONS should lose their voting rights. Welfare recipients should lose their voting rights. Public servants and government employees should lose their voting rights. Anybody who receives "substantial" compensation from most any governmental agency (ok, I will leave Social Security out of the mix) should not have any voting rights.. Conflict of interest is a bitch. OK, so people in the .mil shouldn't be able to vote? |
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Quoted: if you are a free man (out in the free world) why should you not have the ability to defend yourself with any means that you or I have? What other rights should we take away from felons? Should we be able to search them with out a warrant? Or take away their right to free speech? Hence, the belief that the laws should be drawn narrowly to protect an actual articulable interest of the state and not just some "reasonable" belief that a more general restriction of a right would serve the greater good. |
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Quoted: I think this is part of the mattress tag myth.Quoted: Quoted: i have to admit - i dont commit felonies BECAUSE i dont want to lose my rights, (and i dont want to lose my clearance either) .... questions class?? Yeah, I have a question or two. Do you have an old coffee can or some former margerine container in your garage holding nails and/or screws? Do you have some other container, say an ammo box marked 100 CRTG .50 CAL that is holding 5.56mm NATOP rounds? If so, then congratulations! You sir, are a felon! It is a federal felony to have a product in a container that is inconsistent with its labeling. Now the big questions, why should you become a felon because you put screws in a Maxwell House can, and how long should you reasonably be imprisoned in a federal PMITA prison for it, along of course, with the very reasonable complete abrogation of your firearms rights? The Truth in Packeging Act regulates how manufacturers and retailers package, advertise, promote and sell products. To my knowledge, it has no clauses pertaining to what end-users/consumers do for their own private STORAGE solutions.  |