Posted: 5/21/2009 10:56:09 AM EDT
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During a psychology course we talked a great deal about Social Darwinism. Granted the majority of the psychology majors are libtards I was on the short end of the stick. We did get into some nice discussions and many started agreeing with me as I exposed their arguments The way I see things the future only has a few possibilities 1. Nature finds a way to stop our parasitic behavior. The global travels and land occupation of our species provides a brooding ground for a new disease that wipes many of us out. Maybe we will unearth such a disease when we are cutting down rainforest or meddling with nature. Nature usually finds a way to strike back. HIV could be one such example of this. Another possibility is an asteroid, volcano, or other unforeseen event will reduce the population. The reduced population assuming we survive has enough resources. 2. The world erupts in a resource war, and millions die. The resulting reduced population has adequate resources. 3. Governments become socialist or communist, they spread the collective wealth and limit population size by punishing those individuals that have more children than allocated. Individual Freedoms are lost. 4. Social Darwinism. Governments stop helping people and allow individuals to carry the weight of their own responsibilities. The ones that cannot care for themselves may die if the community and public sector choose not to aid them, but since donations and tithing are voluntary those individuals with the most community respect and in need of genuine help will get priority. Much desperation may result and there may be bit of lawlessness until the population is reduced and the resources are plentiful enough so that few if any experience poverty. The end result would be a thriving population all of which are responsible, hard working, and living within their means. I found myself feeling guilty when I began to think all of this through and started leaning towards Social Darwinism, but considering the problems we are facing and the fact that within my lifetime the population will exceed 10 billion, thus creating an even greater strain on our limited resources I can’t see anything improving until the population declines to a comfortable level. When faced with the 4 options above almost all of the libtards in our class discussion boards agreed that option 4 was the better. So the future may boils down to My Survival is in my own Hands, I will become the victim of collateral damage, or my freedoms will be progressively removed as the world tries to cope with an excessive population. I know many people believe technology will bail us out, but in the long run this problem will return if there is no check and balance on our population size. We can keep our freedom and let nature decide or lose it and let the government. Are there any other possible positive outcomes I am overlooking? Discuss |
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Quoted: You left out the number one threat to America http://www.americanbear.org/shared/images/homepage/black-bear.jpg Bears go into category 1 lol |
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Quoted: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c84f7230f/jizz-in-my-pants-response-puke-in-my-mouth-mstaken-com What the heck is this. I don’t know whether to think that you believe my thread is soo awesome you want me to jizz in your mouth, or that you think it stinks and want to throw up? Probably the later since this seems like the response of someone without a rebuttal. |
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Quoted: I guess I would hate to be a totally disabled vet in your world.....after I'm used up I'll just go into the woods and off myself  You've got a valid point. The plus side is that all of the taxes the government poorly spent that were once going to welfare leeches and useless social programs now can be distributed in various organizations and to those that have really earned it. In addition, if you invest the tax savings into your own disability insurance you would be much better off than the money the government will give you if you are ever hurt. If you read my post you will see that I want social organizations to continue to exist hence donations and tithing. I am after all a Christian and believe in helping those in need. Since you will be saving so much money by not paying these taxes to the government imagine the money you will be able to put back into your community or into your future with retirement and insurance. Veteran disability may exist now, but will it continue to exist if we keep heading down this path? Social security is already going bankrupt, what will be next? What about when the population doubles? I totally agree with your point though, but without providing another solution social Darwinism still seems the best. The reason I started this thread is I’d like to hear of a better solution to all of this hence why I am asking. None of the 4 options are without suffering, but which has the least suffering and the most positive long-term outcome? |
| I guess your gonna have to give me alittle time on this because I don't have the answer....but keeping it real, the thing about this is that all these people have a problem instead of a postive solution......you really want to see sociaty go to a large city Social Security office and you'll see what I mean...it's controlled madness |
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The plus side is that all of the taxes the government poorly spent that were once going to welfare leeches and useless social programs now can be distributed in various organizations and to those that have really earned it.
Here's a flash. I earned it. Would it be presumptious to suggest I get to keep more of it? |
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Quoted: The plus side is that all of the taxes the government poorly spent that were once going to welfare leeches and useless social programs now can be distributed in various organizations and to those that have really earned it. Here's a flash. I earned it. Would it be presumptious to suggest I get to keep more of it? If you are a positive influence to humanity and a good contributor to your community you will probably get the support you need. I have more faith in the good nature of humanity and the community than I do in the good nature of the government. Also if you paid into your own disability, health, unemployment insurance you will be more secure. If you are a drain on society you may suffer, but this is better than innocent people that do not deserve to suffer having to suffer on your behalf. As the demands of the future exceed the resource supply the suffering is going to increase and there is nothing we can do about it. The suffering can be used to reach equilibrium with the population, and weed out unproductiveness or it can be needless and we can all go down the toilet together. There is no perfect answer and there is nothing wrong with pointing out the flaws, but what other choices do we have? I prefer the one that puts my destiny in my hands. The most fit will survive. |
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Something else I was thinking about. We can be pretty sure the population will begin to decline in the near future when food becomes progressively harder to supply. There is less suffering involved if the population begins to decline by means of social Darwinism today than if we wait till later. Since we are already living beyond our means there is less suffering involved in reaching equilibrium with a population of 7 billion than trying to do it from 14 billion. |
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I posted this thread with the long term in mind, but with Governator announcing today that they are considering cutting welfare and handout programs in California it looks like it is happening a lot sooner than later.
So do you think they will decide in favor of Socialism or Social Darwinism? They are going to have to lean one way or the other. See this thread for the news about this http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=876765 |
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You left out the number one threat to America http://www.americanbear.org/shared/images/homepage/black-bear.jpg Ahh yes.... CALIFORNIA.... 
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This is what will happen,
The strong will defeat the weak and eat their young. This is the way of nature. What I am trying to say is: As the FOOFOO libturds dumb themselves down and trick themselves into thinking everyone wants to live in their peace filled entitlement utopia. A stronger more focused and hungrier culture will conquer them either by force or by having more children. The culture that reproduces the fastest and works the hardest will eventually win. For instance the US on its current course will either speak chinese or spanish within the next 250 years if we don't change the path we are on now. The europeans are a few years ahead of us and just begging to be conquered by the muslims in the future. Interesting to watch and plain as day if you are paying attention. The "WEST" is doing everything it can to destroy itself from within from a longterm perspective it seems to me. Just an observation, I hope dosent come true. An entitlement culture is a very lazy weak culture that will eventually be replaced by something stronger. zhick |
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Quoted: Quoted: You left out the number one threat to America http://www.americanbear.org/shared/images/homepage/black-bear.jpg Bears go into category 1 lol I think he was talking about Russians.... |
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You left out the number one threat to America http://www.americanbear.org/shared/images/homepage/black-bear.jpg Bears go into category 1 lol I think he was talking about Russians.... Well then category 2 for warfare, but who is worried about the Russians. He probably was talking about communism in that case it will be Category 3. I’ve tried to think all of this stuff through the best I can, but hopefully I can get some new insight in this thread so that I can either change my argument or make it more sound. |
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It will probably be a combination of War, Famine, Climate change, pandemics. The human population has taken massive hits in the past thru ice ages, the plague, war. This is the most logical course... odds are it will be #4 caused in part by a combination of 1,2 and 3.
Regards zhick |
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It will probably be a combination of War, Famine, Climate change, pandemics. The human population has taken massive hits in the past thru ice ages, the plague, war. This is the most logical course... odds are it will be #4 caused in part by a combination of 1,2 and 3. Regards zhick I agree hopefully the principles in number 4 take a hold of people eventually or 1,2, and 3 will repeat themselves over and over again. Some people forget that you have to prune the tree to get it to put out the best fruit. Or if you plant your crops to close to each other they might all survive but they will never reach their full maturity because they will starve each other. |
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You left out the number one threat to America http://www.americanbear.org/shared/images/homepage/black-bear.jpg Bears go into category 1 lol I think he was talking about Russians.... I think it's a reference to Stephen Colbert. |