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5/1/2009 12:01:56 PM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsk6dJr4wps&feature=channel

Then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Bdqy1_VAc&feature=channel

Can't lose the key, forget the combo, or have to fumble with anything in the dark.

Too bad I hate needles
5/1/2009 12:03:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsk6dJr4wps&feature=channel

Then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Bdqy1_VAc&feature=channel

Can't lose the key, forget the combo, or have to fumble with anything in the dark.

Too bad I hate needles


you need to learn how to hotlink
5/1/2009 12:05:42 PM EDT
[#2]
and those people need to learn what an infection is.
lets touch it and the needle with dirty gloved hands then put it in my skin.
5/1/2009 12:07:27 PM EDT
[#3]
damn that's a big fucking needle....yeah....fuck that noise
5/1/2009 12:08:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Too bad I hate needles


That was a big-assed needle, too.  I'd just epoxy the RFID tag onto a ring or something.
5/1/2009 12:09:25 PM EDT
[#5]
No thanks.  RFID chips cause cancer in humans.  Plus, that whole Mark of the Beast thing, too.
5/1/2009 12:10:42 PM EDT
[#6]
I had not seen the gun safe lock before. Now I am wondering why no one has implemented a lock on an pistol keyed to the owners RFID in their hand.
5/1/2009 12:12:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsk6dJr4wps&feature=channel

Then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Bdqy1_VAc&feature=channel

Can't lose the key, forget the combo, or have to fumble with anything in the dark.

Too bad I hate needles


you need to learn how to hotlink


thanks!
5/1/2009 12:18:27 PM EDT
[#8]
No thanks!!!!!
5/1/2009 12:24:56 PM EDT
[#9]
I'll stick with the AR next to the bed and a combo safe.


5/1/2009 12:32:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Here's another problem...

conventional safe:  owner has to actively key in some code or action to open safe.  thief would have to interrogate owner for combo, coerce owner to open safe, or obtain code by surveillance unless they were capable of defeating the actual mechanism (unlikely for all but the most talented criminals)

RFID:  kill or render owner unconcious, drag him in front of safe, VOILA!  or simply cut off body part with chip in it and use that


5/1/2009 12:42:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Here's another problem...

conventional safe:  owner has to actively key in some code or action to open safe.  thief would have to interrogate owner for combo, coerce owner to open safe, or obtain code by surveillance unless they were capable of defeating the actual mechanism (unlikely for all but the most talented criminals)

RFID:  kill or render owner unconcious, drag him in front of safe, VOILA!  or simply cut off body part with chip in it and use that




I say this in all the best of humor but you have seen one too many action/scifi movies




5/1/2009 1:04:05 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Here's another problem...



conventional safe:  owner has to actively key in some code or action to open safe.  thief would have to interrogate owner for combo, coerce owner to open safe, or obtain code by surveillance unless they were capable of defeating the actual mechanism (unlikely for all but the most talented criminals)



RFID:  kill or render owner unconcious, drag him in front of safe, VOILA!  or simply cut off body part with chip in it and use that









I say this in all the best of humor but you have seen one too many action/scifi movies



So if at gunpoint they make you wave your hand in front of the sensor your not going to do it?




 
5/1/2009 1:06:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's another problem...

conventional safe:  owner has to actively key in some code or action to open safe.  thief would have to interrogate owner for combo, coerce owner to open safe, or obtain code by surveillance unless they were capable of defeating the actual mechanism (unlikely for all but the most talented criminals)

RFID:  kill or render owner unconcious, drag him in front of safe, VOILA!  or simply cut off body part with chip in it and use that




I say this in all the best of humor but you have seen one too many action/scifi movies





So if at gunpoint they make you wave your hand in front of the sensor your not going to do it?
 




If they make you open your combo safe at gunpoint are you going to do it?

5/1/2009 1:10:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Too bad I hate needles


That was a big-assed needle, too.  I'd just epoxy the RFID tag onto a ring or something.




No shit. Dude never heard of a ring?
5/1/2009 1:16:35 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
No thanks.  RFID chips cause cancer in humans.


Really?  Care to cite a competent source?
5/1/2009 1:19:07 PM EDT
[#16]


hell the anti-christ won't need to force anyone to take the mark of the beast with people like this running around.

no thanks.

5/1/2009 1:20:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No thanks.  RFID chips cause cancer in humans.


Really?  Care to cite a competent source?


Use the power of The Google, sir.
 
You can dismiss it if you'd like to.  After all, it is your health.
5/1/2009 1:24:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's another problem...

conventional safe:  owner has to actively key in some code or action to open safe.  thief would have to interrogate owner for combo, coerce owner to open safe, or obtain code by surveillance unless they were capable of defeating the actual mechanism (unlikely for all but the most talented criminals)

RFID:  kill or render owner unconcious, drag him in front of safe, VOILA!  or simply cut off body part with chip in it and use that




I say this in all the best of humor but you have seen one too many action/scifi movies






Got the idea from Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, actually...and reading a bunch of William Gibson and assorted other cyberpunk stuff.

HOWEVER, my point still stands:

If I were the robber and I knew the safe in question was activated by RFID, my course of action would be to incapacitate the owner and drag him over there instead of screwing around questioning him.

Also, if I knew where the RFID chip was located in him (or had a scanning device) it would be a simple matter to hit said person over the head, tie his ass up in a closet somewhere, extract the chip, and WIN.  Also, it'd be even better if that person had decided to get cute and have all their security based off the RFID chip; I could stroll in like it was my own house by virtue of having the freshly harvested chip in a tissue in my shirt pocket
5/1/2009 1:28:05 PM EDT
[#19]
IBSPAPOTGFBHDS"TIMS"










(in before someone posts a pic of the guy from black hawk down saying "this is my safety")
5/1/2009 4:02:15 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
No thanks.  RFID chips cause cancer in humans.


Really?  Care to cite a competent source?


Use the power of The Google, sir.
 
You can dismiss it if you'd like to.  After all, it is your health.


I don't need to Google- because there isn't any competent medical source to back-it up  I have learned more about RFID in a week and you are likely to ever know.  You made a rather wild claim - I'm asking for a competent medial source to back it up.  Otherwise - lets say that it is a baseless claim.
5/1/2009 4:07:16 PM EDT
[#21]
no thanks. if I am worried about it that bad i would just buy one of the finger print ones. bio-print or some crap.
5/1/2009 4:08:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
IBSPAPOTGFBHDS"TIMS"










(in before someone posts a pic of the guy from black hawk down saying "this is my safety")







With that being said, I wonder how that RFID feels if/when he shoots bigbore magnum handguns.



5/1/2009 5:29:48 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I had not seen the gun safe lock before. Now I am wondering why no one has implemented a lock on an pistol keyed to the owners RFID in their hand.


There is already a law like that in CA... as soon as "smart gun" technology is viable, it becomes mandatory. As someone else said, fuck that noise .