[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Metallica: Prince Charming (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 4/9/2009 8:55:37 PM EDT
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Critics of the high priests of hatred known as Metallica often claim their load and reload albumns were shit incarnate, as they fail to stand up to expectations of speed play and screeching juvenile hatred. Prince Charming, a song off of their reload albumn, is quintessential mature hatred refined, more cold, more logical, and yet still as metal as that dildo your wife puts in your ass everynight after lecturing you about spending too much on pmags due to obamamania.
Listen, and kneel ye heathens, only the righteous among you will appreciate this, if ye dont, ye know then you are a worthless piece of meat, or at least only worth what use one may have for meat. Behold, and submit heretics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLN9qUXvb_8 |
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well yeah thats about 1000 times better than what the op posted, but still, would you rather listen to reload, or say, nickelback? |
lotta potential beef jerkey in this thread.....
eta meh, 4 horsefuckers, cheap, juvenile, talentless beyond the lead thrashing, shallow, hollow, immature.....figures it would be favored. I'll save your souls yet..........or strip the flesh from your minds eye trying.....no one expects the metal inquisition.... Only listened to about 30 secs of it.Wasn't near as good as any song on Justice For All.
heh, kids and their ADD...listen to all of it, gets better omg, an intro is not the whole of the meal.....listen to all of it..... |
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well yeah thats about 1000 times better than what the op posted, but still, would you rather listen to reload, or say, nickelback? That's not even fair. Reload still sucked as a metal album. |
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^^^ yeah ronnie and bleeding me are my favorites off of load.
ETA people are sad, ADD generation syndrome I guess, if it doesn't bitch slap them in the first 30 seconds they wont bother with the rest....and the way metallica shifted to composition after the black albumn cutoff mark was songs that didnt hit you until the first 3rd or halfway through, but then, they really hit you.... take bleeding me, slow as shit until the thunder and hatred kicks in "....i'll take the leash, i'm bleeding me, can't stop to save my soul....I'll take the leash thats feeding me" with a vocal style that evokes pure pain streaked hatred..."i am the beast that feeds the beast, i am the blood i am released, come make me pure, bleed me a cure..." Totally a "come here you sawed off over confident unskilled little whelp of a punk and let me shatter your illusions with the assraping of reality as i give you the true measure of your worthlessness with the cock hammer of skull fucking you shit stained ass maggot" of a set of lyrics. |
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I never got why it was cool to hate hate metallic for "selling out"...i guess me still being in diapers when ride the lightning came out may be part of it.
The first songs I heard by metallica were from black, load, and reload. These were the songs that got me interested in them and lead me to discover Kill em all, ride, master and Justice. Sure, I like the older stuff better, but I don't hold any ill will for the newer stuff (which is after all, still decent music compared to allot of other shit played on the radio from that time period.) I am not a fan of saint anger, but I simply choose not to listen to that album, i don't say "oh my god, I hate metallica and I hope they die" because of it. ETA:: Quoted:
well yeah thats about 1000 times better than what the op posted, but still, would you rather listen to reload, or say, nickelback? That's no contest, I'd rather listen to a recording of fingernails being scratched across a black board than nickelback. Same goes for most of the "new rock" out there. I think "The day that never comes" is far better than most of the other new stuff on 100.7mms (rock station out of Cleveland) today despite what critics say. |
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well yeah thats about 1000 times better than what the op posted, but still, would you rather listen to reload, or say, nickelback? That's not even fair. Reload still sucked as a metal album. Well the op just basically said kill em all sucked so im all for ganging up on him now. I now agree 100% with you. |
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well yeah thats about 1000 times better than what the op posted, but still, would you rather listen to reload, or say, nickelback? That's not even fair. Reload still sucked as a metal album. Gotta say +1 here. Seems that ever since Hetfield started believing he was a "great" singer I haven't been interested in any of their stuff. The earlier stuff up to the Black album was a better fit for his singing style, imo. If I could only have one album the rest of my life, it would be ....and Justice for All. |
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Quoted: ^^^ yeah ronnie and bleeding me are my favorites off of load. ETA people are sad, ADD generation syndrome I guess, if it doesn't bitch slap them in the first 30 seconds they wont bother with the rest....and the way metallica shifted to composition after the black albumn cutoff mark was songs that didnt hit you until the first 3rd or halfway through, but then, they really hit you.... I liked Load and Reload. It's pretty much anything made since then that's shit, to me. Fawking Megadeth pwns joo! |
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Only listened to about 30 secs of it.Wasn't near as good as any song on Justice For All.
heh, kids and their ADD...listen to all of it, gets better omg, an intro is not the whole of the meal.....listen to all of it..... lol yeah I'm the "kid" with ADD. Think about it: I listened to Justice For All, you like Reload. Something tells me I'm a wee bit older than you. Kid. Quoted:
I'll save your souls yet.... You seriously need to start listening to some good music. Fast. |
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As if I have not heard justice? I'll not disparage justice or master, but surely you realize the percieved change began with justice, albeit subtley.
And for the record I'm 30, Master was their first that I heard, Kill'em all was over-rated.... Their style has simply evolved and matured, that they are disparaged for such by people who's chief complaint is their stuff isnt fast enuff with screeching says it all. Heavy is more important than fast. I submit white zombies la sexorcisto and godsmacks first albumn as evidence of such. eta what many of you are calling metal was merely early shock rock and not metal. Its juvenile tantrum-esque. Its "look at me im fast and i screech in my raaaaaaaaggggeeee!!! awww!!!" Its the loudest, and therefore weakest one in the room. I was there for the ride listening to the same shit, i'm glad they grew out of it with me, or rather, me with them. Heres a test: would yo call danzig metal? the misfits? heavy and dark trumps speed and scream, speed and scream is the emo punk before he crashes into reality and starts cutting himself, heavy and dark follows the delinquent until he starts bombing daycares because he hates children.....now who's metal.... |
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As if I have not heard justice? I'll not disparage justice or master, but surely you realize the percieved change began with justice, albeit subtley. And for the record I'm 30, Master was their first that I heard, Kill'em all was over-rated.... Their style has simply evolved and matured, that they are disparaged for such by people who's chief complaint is their stuff isnt fast enuff with screeching says it all. Heavy is more important than fast. I submit white zombies la sexorcisto and godsmacks first albumn as evidence of such. For Whom The Bell Tolls...not fast. To Live is to Die...not fast. Those two songs alone have more metal than all Metallica's post-Justice albums combined. |
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Quoted: As if I have not heard justice? I'll not disparage justice or master, but surely you realize the percieved change began with justice, albeit subtley. And for the record I'm 30, Master was their first that I heard, Kill'em all was over-rated.... Their style has simply evolved and matured, that they are disparaged for such by people who's chief complaint is their stuff isnt fast enuff with screeching says it all. Heavy is more important than fast. I submit white zombies la sexorcisto and godsmacks first albumn as evidence of such. "Does not compute" You're a Nu Metal fan! This explains everything.  |
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For Whom The Bell Tolls...not fast. To Live is to Die...not fast. Those two songs alone have more metal than all Metallica's post-Justice albums combined.
articulate what makes it so, for the very song i linked to in the first post is more metal than either of those....the first is an alamo-esque ode to fatalism, the second is an embarrasing emo moment. |
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Quoted: For Whom The Bell Tolls...not fast. To Live is to Die...not fast. Those two songs alone have more metal than all Metallica's post-Justice albums combined. articulate what makes it so, for the very song i linked to in the first post is more metal than either of those....the first is an alamo-esque ode to fatalism, the second is an embarrasing emo moment. For Whom The Bell Tolls was a metal headbanging anthem song. It was slow, but it was heavy. To Live is to Die was a song made up from riffs that Cliff Burton wrote. I wouldn't call it an embrassing emo moment at all. |
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"Does not compute"
You're a Nu Metal fan! This explains everything. haha there is more hatred and murder in one line of godsmack than in a whole albumn of slayer....and if white zombie isnt metal then the marines are boy scouts! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCcP5XZzEMM ^^ be sure to give it at least a minute now
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For Whom The Bell Tolls was a metal headbanging anthem song. It was slow, but it was heavy. To Live is to Die was a song made up from riffs that Cliff Burton wrote. I wouldn't call it an embrassing emo moment at all.
Anthems are irrelevant, as is the "ritual" of headbanging.....the question is which is more apt to subliminally pump you up for mayhem.....and the two you cited most certainly do not qualify! |
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Quoted: For Whom The Bell Tolls was a metal headbanging anthem song. It was slow, but it was heavy. To Live is to Die was a song made up from riffs that Cliff Burton wrote. I wouldn't call it an embrassing emo moment at all. Anthems are irrelevant, as is the "ritual" of headbanging.....the question is which is more apt to subliminally pump you up for mayhem.....and the two you cited most certainly do not qualify! For Whom The Bells Tolls does it for me.  Admittedly, not so much for To Live is to Die, but it's still a great song. It was more of a tribute for Cliff than anything else. eta: Off of my favorite live album of theirs: The DVD to the Seattle 1989 tour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N03XuU37Os |
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Quoted: Oh I'm with ya on the White Zombie infact i have their original 80's EP's floating around somewhere. Godsmack not so much. Talented band but more hard rock than heavy IMO. "Does not compute" You're a Nu Metal fan! This explains everything. haha there is more hatred and murder in one line of godsmack than in a whole albumn of slayer....and if white zombie isnt metal then the marines are boy scouts! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCcP5XZzEMM ^^ be sure to give it at least a minute now |
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There's a black cloud over head, that's me
And the poison ivy chokes the tree, again it's me I'm the filthy one on Bourbon Street, you walk on by I'm the little boy that pushes hard and makes him cry There's a dirty needle in your child, haha, stick me Empty bottles still in hand, still dead, still me I'm the suit and tie that bleeds the street and still wants more I'm the 45 that's in your mouth I'm a dirty, dirty whore Yeah, look it's me The one who can't be free Much too young to focus, but too old to see Hey, look it's me What no one wants to see See what you brought this world Just what you want to see Hey ma, hey ma, look it's me Yeah, he wants to become father now, me again, me The marks inside your arms spell me, spell only me I'm the nothing face that plants a bomb and strolls away I'm the one who doesn't look quite right as children play Yeah, look it's me The one who can't be free Much too young to focus, but too old to see Hey, look it's me What no one wants to see See what you brought this world Just what you want you want to see Hey ma, hey ma, look it's me Look up to me What to be and what to fear Look up to me Look it's me, at what you hear See right through me See the one who can't be free See right through me Look it's me what no one wants to see Hmm, now, see the black cloud up ahead, that's me Hmm, and this poison ivy chokes the tree, again it's me I'm the filthy one on Bourbon Street, you walk on by I'm the little boy that pushes, pushes, makes him cry Yeah, look it's me The one who can't be free Much too young to focus but too old to see Hey, hey, look it's me What no one wants to see See what you brought this world Just what you want you want to see Hey ma, hey ma, look it's me Hey ma, hey ma, look it's me |
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Woven in the surface a premonition of a land erupting
a sparkling occasion of a city crashdown! overhead Revolv'n in a whirlpool a drag-o-rama walk'n on the sidewalk so let me see ya howl'n through the keyhole "god damn, swept away" she shouted - she love it - get in away yeah! I concentrate the midnight without the benefit of ceremony - whoever said, "The one who strips your soul is the one that got away" a weather-beaten angel descending to embrace the cemetery - got love - so mystifying "god damn, swept away" she shouted - she love it - get in away yeah! she shouted - she love it - get in away - yeah! voodoo beat on the mind the digs too deep to find something has got to give, man (psych-out) racketeer or star you are just what you are, don't play the misty, baby! (get you) into a river sky electro nation cry "i need another, now" drift beyond the sleeping the moon is shift'n shadows on her figure - swamptime locomotion "i can't take it, anymore!" sunlight through the shutters illuminating moment to the moment buzz a halo over "god damn, swept away" she shouted - she love it - get in away - yeah - planet pretty kill - motherfucker hang me on the thrills - psychoholic slag tomorrow is another drag (yeah) picnic in the homeland - like a jesus super-star yeah! kiss me deadly, baby (baby) i know who you are (come on) planet pretty kill - motherfucker hang me on the thrills yeah! no small heaven (haven) i got the left hand of the keeper - meet me in st. louis "god" a one- way ticket's cheaper yeah! time-travel i'm walk'n (walk'n) i got a white line zombie fever (fever) yeah! time bomb the hero (hero) yeah get down!! |
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The first 5, (not counting the 5.98EP Garage Days re-revisited as its all cover songs) albums have complex harmony's, cohesion of thought and Meaning. You can actually comprehend the meaning of the song, cause it actually has one. The black album for all its commercial success was the turning point. Due to that success, and its associated cameos Hetfield actually thought he could sing, he can scream in key, sometimes.
The band has admitted to throwing the lyrics together, and it shows. The music is hacked and spliced, they jump from riff to riff with no follow through. it just sounds hacked together. Bands grow, they expand their sound. Its expected. but to go from Metal to a rock/fusion sound and call it metal. That doesn't work. the Fans have stated this though Album Sales, Check the RIAA if you want the current #s they will most likely never see the success of the Black album again Load/Reload never even reached the sales of Justice or Puppets, Death magnetic had intense initial sales and have dropped off. The band has Alienated a large contingent of their dedicated fan base, They aren't buying the albums. They are going to shows to hear the old stuff, and some are even sitting down during the new songs. From the RIAAs top 100 albums Metallica Album in order from highest to lowest Metallica Justice Puppets Garage inc. Ride the Lightning S&M Load Load basically just made the list, Reload didn't, St Anger never will, and Death magnetic, its not looking to promising. |
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Utterly nonsensical. Go ahead, give it a try. I dare you. Quoted: There's a black cloud over head, that's me And the poison ivy chokes the tree, again it's me I'm the filthy one on Bourbon Street, you walk on by I'm the little boy that pushes hard and makes him cry... |
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The first 5, (not counting the 5.98EP Garage Days re-revisited as its all cover songs) albums have complex harmony's, cohesion of thought and Meaning. You can actually comprehend the meaning of the song, cause it actually has one. The black album for all its commercial success was the turning point. Due to that success, and its associated cameos Hetfield actually thought he could sing, he can scream in key, sometimes.
The band has admitted to throwing the lyrics together, and it shows. The music is hacked and spliced, they jump from riff to riff with no follow through. it just sounds hacked together. Bands grow, they expand their sound. Its expected. but to go from Metal to a rock/fusion sound and call it metal. That doesn't work. the Fans have stated this though Album Sales, Check the RIAA if you want the current #s they will most likely never see the success of the Black album again Load/Reload never even reached the sales of Justice or Puppets, Death magnetic had intense initial sales and have dropped off. The band has Alienated a large contingent of their dedicated fan base, They aren't buying the albums. They are going to shows to hear the old stuff, and some are even sitting down during the new songs. From the RIAAs top 100 albums Metallica Album in order from highest to lowest Metallica Justice Puppets Garage inc. Ride the Lightning S&M Load Hey you know americas next top model, john n kate plus 8, iron chef, american idol, dancing with the stars etc......the masses tell me they are awesome tv as well! Maybe I should listen to the masses instead of watching NCIS.... Since the masses define what is or is not quality and all... I don't need everyone elses opinion on what is or is not metal, because I know what is or is not metal....I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!! This same methodology says family guy is better than say, venture brothers or aquateen....we all know that THAT is bullshit.... Buit thanks for playing
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Post Justice, Metallica became a hard rock band..they left Metal behind. Sorry-Load/Reload, Saint suck ass and Death Magnetic are not even in the same ballpark as the first 4 albums.
Praising Godsmack? Sorry-they never were Metal and will NEVER be-they are rehashed Alice in Chains...much like their name. They are about as Metal as Good Charlotte is punk.
Metal is alive and well..and someone is missing it. |
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Wise of you to not try to make any sense of it.
very well i'll paint it in crayon for you since you can't seem to grasp it.... the song is about the violent and evil aspect of human nature; the song is sung from the perspective of the evil spiritual aspect of what constitutes man; it is a vile reflection of humanity and yet a defining characteristic that our more primitive selves identify with and take pride in.... would you like me to teach you to tie your shoes next? |
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Quoted: Can't argue here. I think half the people I know that bought the "black" album said it sucked. Obviously fans of the first four albums. The other half were people that liked the new commercial crap being pumped out by radio and mtv.Pretty obvious why succeeding record sales have dropped. IMHO AJA was definatly the best production ever. There's tunes on the newer albums I like but as a whole the first four were just way better.The first 5, (not counting the 5.98EP Garage Days re-revisited as its all cover songs) albums have complex harmony's, cohesion of thought and Meaning. You can actually comprehend the meaning of the song, cause it actually has one. The black album for all its commercial success was the turning point. Due to that success, and its associated cameos Hetfield actually thought he could sing, he can scream in key, sometimes. The band has admitted to throwing the lyrics together, and it shows. The music is hacked and spliced, they jump from riff to riff with no follow through. it just sounds hacked together. Bands grow, they expand their sound. Its expected. but to go from Metal to a rock/fusion sound and call it metal. That doesn't work. the Fans have stated this though Album Sales, Check the RIAA if you want the current #s they will most likely never see the success of the Black album again Load/Reload never even reached the sales of Justice or Puppets, Death magnetic had intense initial sales and have dropped off. The band has Alienated a large contingent of their dedicated fan base, They aren't buying the albums. They are going to shows to hear the old stuff, and some are even sitting down during the new songs. From the RIAAs top 100 albums Metallica Album in order from highest to lowest Metallica Justice Puppets Garage inc. Ride the Lightning S&M Load Load basically just made the list, Reload didn't, St Anger never will, and Death magnetic, its not looking to promising. |
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