Posted: 3/25/2009 12:01:10 PM EDT
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Common Sense Rejected
By Shortshanks no less: Mayor Daley is seething over a West Side legislator’s suggestion that children be educated about gun safety and gun use. State Rep. Annazette Collins (D-Chicago) said she believes that education is the key to gun safety, and said a hands-on approach is the key to taking away the mystery and allure of guns. “Downstate they teach you that guns are meant for hunting, for protection,” she said. “Here in the urban cities, all they see are guns on TV and they gun down people.” Opponents filled a town hall meeting Monday night in Garfield Park, and Mayor Daley is adding his voice to the outrage. “It’s the silliest position I’ve ever heard taken,” Daley said. No, the silliest position is Illinois and Wisconsin being the last of the 50 states to legalize some form of concealed carry that has been proven time and time again to reduce violent crime. But actually educating people, young people, as to basic safety principles regarding something that, despite all Shortshank's attempts to ban it, still manages to pop up with astonishing frequency. Notice how Daley twists the issue to his own anti-gun views: Daley said putting guns in the hands of more children is the last thing the city of Chicago needs. [...] Daley said there is already too much gun violence on Chicago’s West Side, and said he believed Collins’ proposal would only fuel it. “If (she thinks) more guns on the West Side is going to help those people, she is greatly mistaken,” Daley said. Collins, of course, didn't say she wanted to put guns in anyone's hands or even more guns in a City that already bans them. She isn't advocating teaching these kids marksmanship, arming them, and sending them out to kill. But being aware of when a gun is loaded (always), what it's capable of (holes in paper, walls, people), and what they should do when they see one (tell the police) isn't a bad idea. |
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the people that proclaim the NEED to educate kids about sex to keep them safe, are the same people that become disjointed at the notion that we should teach kids about guns to help keep them safe. Yep, it's "knowledge is power" until it is something they don't like, then it's "that knowledge is teh evilsss!!!". Of course, lots of people who would like to see gun education get all up in arms about having abstinence-only (or worse, NO) sex ed, so it goes both ways. |
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Collins, of course, didn't say she wanted to put guns in anyone's hands or even more guns in a City that already bans them. She isn't advocating teaching these kids marksmanship, arming them, and sending them out to kill. But being aware of when a gun is loaded (always), what it's capable of (holes in paper, walls, people), and what they should do when they see one (tell the police) isn't a bad idea. Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't this what the NRA's eddie the eagle program teaches? |
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the people that proclaim the NEED to educate kids about sex to keep them safe, are the same people that become disjointed at the notion that we should teach kids about guns to help keep them safe. Yep, it's "knowledge is power" until it is something they don't like, then it's "that knowledge is teh evilsss!!!". Of course, lots of people who would like to see gun education get all up in arms about having abstinence-only (or worse, NO) sex ed, so it goes both ways. agreed. 
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Quoted: Im in downstate IL and i wish there where some way we could just kick Chicago out of are damn state!!! They border Wisconson so just become part of that state?!?! Do you think we're happy about madison and millwaukee? How about we just wall off the whole area into one city and let them try to take care of themselves. |
| My introduction to firearms was shooting a .410 shotgun at a piece of 2X4 at close range at the age of 11. Yes, it blew a hole through it and made a mess. No, it wasn't like the movies, TV shows, or cartoons. Yes, I have nothing but respect for guns to this day. No, ignorance and fear of inanimate tools does not make society safer, Mr. Mayor. |
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Im in downstate IL and i wish there where some way we could just kick Chicago out of are damn state!!! They border Wisconson so just become part of that state?!?! How about you just go to hell and keep your own frickin mess, we have enough of our own mess as it is thank you very much. |
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the people that proclaim the NEED to educate kids about sex to keep them safe, are the same people that become disjointed at the notion that we should teach kids about guns to help keep them safe. Yep, it's "knowledge is power" until it is something they don't like, then it's "that knowledge is teh evilsss!!!". Of course, lots of people who would like to see gun education get all up in arms about having abstinence-only (or worse, NO) sex ed, so it goes both ways. Oddly, the underling motivations are similar - a lack of personal familiarity with the subject coupled with an inexplicable belief that the subject matter at hand is somehow "dirty" or "inappropriate." |
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Im in downstate IL and i wish there where some way we could just kick Chicago out of are damn state!!! They border Wisconson so just become part of that state?!?! Michigan may trade you Detroit for Chicago. They might throw Pontiac and Flint in on the deal. |
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That's a shame. How long have the Dalys been running the city? 50 years more or less? Wow. Maybe the folks will wake up and elect some better politicians. His is like a fucking Mafia Don. That piece of shit family somehow has a stranglehold on Chicago politics. |
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I work in St. Louis and live in Missouri. Lady I work with shoots trap. She would like me to join her trap shooting team. I'd have to cross the river to do this. And become a felon the instant I touched a gun in Illinois. Absolutely insane. I think you need to reread IL law on that. You as an out of stater can attend participate in firearms sporting events in IL without having to have a FOID. You can buy ammo in IL without having to have a FOID. I have and so have others. BTW, Pasa Park rocks! |
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Ant-Gun http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTeffAzMpJvhsBBDGjzbkF/SIG=11sh5hgm8/EXP=1238113856/**http%3A//paintballant.com/images/ants2.jpg Oh i'm glad i wasn't the only one to catch that and immediately think of 2nd amendment exercising insects. Or a gun that fires ANTS!!! |
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God damn, I feel so bad for people that have to live there. Daley is a first rate piece of shit. Thank you for your sympathy..... Some of us got out beforehand.......saw it coming..... I never go to Cook County or Chicago for anything if I don't have to. |
| If I lived there I would have everyone google things like chicago gun ban and fred roti. Dig for the real reasons behind it, and expose madam mayor for the mafia bitch he is. Then forward every real informative piece of info to your entire list of contacts. Chicago can change if voting habits do...maybe! If chicago can't than America is screwed having a little hunk of it running us and all. |
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My introduction to firearms was shooting a .410 shotgun at a piece of 2X4 at close range at the age of 11. Yes, it blew a hole through it and made a mess. No, it wasn't like the movies, TV shows, or cartoons. Yes, I have nothing but respect for guns to this day. No, ignorance and fear of inanimate tools does not make society safer, Mr. Mayor. That's funny, because my dad did virtually the same thing with me when I was that age, except I used his 16 gauge. |
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Quoted: Im in downstate IL and i wish there where some way we could just kick Chicago out of are damn state!!! They border Wisconson so just become part of that state?!?! There's a whole county between Crook and WI, pal... I say just make them a district like DC so we can take their tax $$ and deny their power over the rest of the state and then wall them off... |
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Im in downstate IL and i wish there where some way we could just kick Chicago out of are damn state!!! They border Wisconson so just become part of that state?!?! There's a whole county between Crook and WI, pal... I say just make them a district like DC so we can take their tax $$ and deny their power over the rest of the state and then wall them off... Lake County never gets any love by the "down-staters." Of course, it also went decidedly for Obama this last election. |
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That's a shame. How long have the Dalys been running the city? 50 years more or less? Wow. Maybe the folks will wake up and elect some better politicians. The same people that elected Daley elected this guy: http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2008/11/large_obama-casting-ballot.jpg fuck that noise. |
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That's a shame. How long have the Dalys been running the city? 50 years more or less? Wow. Maybe the folks will wake up and elect some better politicians. I hope they do too. Richard J. Daley was elected in the 50s, died in 1976, and Richard M. Daley was elected in 1989. Quoted:
His is like a fucking Mafia Don. That piece of shit family somehow has a stranglehold on Chicago politics. Nothing will change as long as Daley is in power. And unfortunately, he, like any other gun-grabber, doesn't get it about guns. Never will. |
