[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is this a true statement? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/7/2009 1:11:39 PM EDT
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"There are two types of people who drive hybrid cars–– hippies and people who can't do simple math."
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car.
EDIT: Maybe that's not worded very well. What I mean is, the price tag of a hybrid is generally much higher than the price tag of a conventional economy car, and it would take years of very high gas prices for you to recoup that higher purchase price back in net gas savings. |
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car. Yep. One of the other pilots at work just bought a Camry hybrid, thinking he was going to save a mint on gas. After I ridiculed him in spite of his vehement denial, I did the math for him. Given the price of the hybrid over the conventional vehicle, all other options the same, it would take him anywhere from 6 to 8 years to break even and START saving money on it, and that was using $3/gallon gas as an estimated median price over the service life of the car. |
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car. Yep. One of the other pilots at work just bought a Camry hybrid, thinking he was going to save a mint on gas. After I ridiculed him in spite of his vehement denial, I did the math for him. Given the price of the hybrid over the conventional vehicle, all other options the same, it would take him anywhere from 6 to 8 years to break even and START saving money on it, and that was using $3/gallon gas as an estimated median price over the service life of the car. Exactly. |
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Quoted: Aren't they supposed to have a larger enviromental footprint than a Hummer? with the disposal of the batteries and such......... The Hummer has a smaller footprint because most of it is off the shelf, usable in other vehicles, and recyclable. That being said, the disparity is going to close as the technology and recycling of the fancy materials become more ubiquitous. |
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car. Yep. One of the other pilots at work just bought a Camry hybrid, thinking he was going to save a mint on gas. After I ridiculed him in spite of his vehement denial, I did the math for him. Given the price of the hybrid over the conventional vehicle, all other options the same, it would take him anywhere from 6 to 8 years to break even and START saving money on it, and that was using $3/gallon gas as an estimated median price over the service life of the car. Did you factor in replacing the $4,000 battery every 4-6 years? |
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Hannity drives one, but then again he's never struck me as being overly bright.  GM is one of Hannity's advertisers, so he was probably given his hybrid Tahoe. I'd drive one too if someone gave it to me. I would too and have been holding off replacing my Ford F-250 until the technology matures enough that practical and reasonably priced full size hybrid/fuel cell trucks are a reality. I'll probably be driving the old gal for quite some time to come, however. |
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hybrid gets better gas millage than non hybrid.. supposedly new prius will get 50 mpg around town. its a mid-sized hatch, not a micro car. you can get a base one for around 25k or less i think. when gas goes back up to 4 or 5 bucks a gallon due to obamee's grand plans you might appreciate a car like this.. i may get one. i may bet a vette to (if the economy looks like it wont kill my company). both are tools with specific purposes. one gets you around cheap and the other fast... i dont buy the global warming bit.. and i think by the time you manufacture a hybrid its a trade off. and finally if driving a particular car makes you nervous about perhaps being hit on by an butt pirate then you have problems to begin with and driving a manly SUV is just covering it up... thik of it this way.. gas goes to 5 or 6 bucks a gallon, that money you save in a prius might just buy a 50 cal that you can shoot down satellites with... |
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sheese.. hybrid gets better gas millage than non hybrid.. supposedly new prius will get 50 mpg around town. its a mid-sized hatch, not a micro car. you can get a base one for around 25k or less i think. when gas goes back up to 4 or 5 bucks a gallon due to obamee's grand plans you might appreciate a car like this.. i may get one. i may bet a vette to (if the economy looks like it wont kill my company). both are tools with specific purposes. one gets you around cheap and the other fast... i dont buy the global warming bit.. and i think by the time you manufacture a hybrid its a trade off. and finally if driving a particular car makes you nervous about perhaps being hit on by an butt pirate then you have problems to begin with and driving a manly SUV is just covering it up... thik of it this way.. gas goes to 5 or 6 bucks a gallon, that money you save in a prius might just buy a 50 cal that you can shoot down satellites with... My 1997 Nissan Sentra gets 40 MPG, and is not a micro car either. It would take a long time to recoup the difference of 10 mpg. |
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while i don't have one and don't plan on getting one, if i were to purchase one it would be because i'd rather send my money to a car manufacturer on a product, than overseas for oil. some of the hybrids are just retarded though, the hybrid tahoe? wtf over For the reason you stated, a hybrid Tahoe (assuming the hybrid system is worth a shit) would make more sense than a hyrbid small car. Small cars already get good mileage, so even a significant improvement isn't a big deal. A so-so improvement on a gas-guzzler would save more oil. Look at a car going from 30mpg to 45mpg... if you drive 20k miles a year, that's less than 222gal of gas saved. An SUV going from 17mpg to 25mpg... in 20k miles you save 376gal. Now if the hybrid Tahoe just sucks, well... that's no surprise. 
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It's false, and I can put up numbers that prove my hybrid costs less to own than the non-hybrid version with the same equipment. I'd like to see those numbers. So would I, based on last year's $4 gas, as well as $2.08 which I filled up for 6 hours ago. |
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LOL I love the way that guy says baboon |
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it's basically a libtard retard tax.
..."oh lookie, that car looks so uber cute, like a golf car with curves, and brother gore says it will spare the earth from the evil conservatives! ...and sire obamabongo will help finance my car payment! "...gives me a tingly feeling running up my leg - weeee!!!!" 
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car. Yep. One of the other pilots at work just bought a Camry hybrid, thinking he was going to save a mint on gas. After I ridiculed him in spite of his vehement denial, I did the math for him. Given the price of the hybrid over the conventional vehicle, all other options the same, it would take him anywhere from 6 to 8 years to break even and START saving money on it, and that was using $3/gallon gas as an estimated median price over the service life of the car. Did you factor in replacing the $4,000 battery every 4-6 years? Why? The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100000 miles. No one has changed a battery set to my knowledge. In any case, the price was $2300 last I checked. Facts, not hearsay. |
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I want one of these.
I only drive 40 miles a day max during the week so this is perfect! http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=7651 |
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I was doing some mathematical analysis of this, and I determined that gas would have to become enormously expensive for someone to realize any cost savings whatsoever with a hybrid over what they could get by just buying a conventional economy car. Yep. One of the other pilots at work just bought a Camry hybrid, thinking he was going to save a mint on gas. After I ridiculed him in spite of his vehement denial, I did the math for him. Given the price of the hybrid over the conventional vehicle, all other options the same, it would take him anywhere from 6 to 8 years to break even and START saving money on it, and that was using $3/gallon gas as an estimated median price over the service life of the car. Did you factor in replacing the $4,000 battery every 4-6 years? The battery and all high voltage components of most hybrid vehicles are covered by a minimum 8 year/100,000 mile warranty. Some are 10/150 depending on what state you're in. The HV battery is supposed to last the life of the vehicle. How long is that? No manufacturer will say for certain, but New York City ran eighteen hybrid Escapes as taxis, and as of April 2007, each vehicle had about 175K miles which works out to around 11 years of stop and go driving for the average driver. Hybrids have their place for some people, and they're totally impractical for some people. |
