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2/8/2009 2:57:46 PM EDT
an immitation M1 rifle is an AW in NJ?

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/police_remove_man_from_rumson.html


Weapons cache found in home of Rumson man
by Ralph R. Ortega/The Star-Ledger
Sunday February 08, 2009, 6:20 PM
A Rumson man reported to be despondent over financial problems surrendered to police after a cache of weapons –– including an illegal assault rifle –– was found in his home, authorities said.

Seth Kronengold, 49, surrendered around 1:30 p.m. after more than a dozen armed officers from Rumson, Little Silver and Fair Haven approached the house on Ridge Road wearing bullet proof gear, Police Chief Richard Tobias said.

Kronengold was taken to Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch for evaluation. He faces one count of possession of an assault rifle, Tobias said.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.

Tobias said officers who went to check on Kronengold around 9:48 a.m. found ammunition and a bullet proof helmet inside his home.

"It was just like the bullet proof helmets we wear," said the chief, referring to police.

The officers backed out of the home and evacuated three families from the area as a precaution, Tobias said.

Police wearing tactical gear returned armed with assault rifles. Kronengold, who was spotted in a second-floor window, surrendered without incident, Tobias said.

Removed from the home were two handguns, a 15 round magazine, and two rifles, including an imitation M1 Carbine, which is illegal assault weapon in New Jersey, according to the chief.

2/8/2009 2:59:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Oh god...I've got more within reach of my armchair.
2/8/2009 2:59:56 PM EDT
[#2]
OMG he had a helmet!
2/8/2009 3:00:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
an immitation M1 rifle is an AW in NJ?

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/police_remove_man_from_rumson.html


Weapons cache found in home of Rumson man
by Ralph R. Ortega/The Star-Ledger
Sunday February 08, 2009, 6:20 PM
A Rumson man reported to be despondent over financial problems surrendered to police after a cache of weapons –– including an illegal assault rifle –– was found in his home, authorities said.

Seth Kronengold, 49, surrendered around 1:30 p.m. after more than a dozen armed officers from Rumson, Little Silver and Fair Haven approached the house on Ridge Road wearing bullet proof gear, Police Chief Richard Tobias said.

Kronengold was taken to Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch for evaluation. He faces one count of possession of an assault rifle, Tobias said.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.

Tobias said officers who went to check on Kronengold around 9:48 a.m. found ammunition and a bullet proof helmet inside his home.

"It was just like the bullet proof helmets we wear," said the chief, referring to police.

The officers backed out of the home and evacuated three families from the area as a precaution, Tobias said.

Police wearing tactical gear returned armed with assault rifles. Kronengold, who was spotted in a second-floor window, surrendered without incident, Tobias said.

Removed from the home were two handguns, a 15 round magazine, and two rifles, including an imitation M1 Carbine, which is illegal assault weapon in New Jersey, according to the chief.



They did not use spell check either.
2/8/2009 3:01:33 PM EDT
[#4]
The commercial carbine was made in Plainfield, NJ.  Sad how you can go from a state that produced tools a freedom to a state that arrests people with the tools of freedom.
2/8/2009 3:03:16 PM EDT
[#5]
He had a bullet-proof helmet!?  Just like the COPS WEAR!?  My GOD...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/wait-why-are-we-panicking.jpg
2/8/2009 3:04:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Damn what kind of helmets do these guys use. LOL Bullet-proof
2/8/2009 3:06:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Yay for the fucking nanny state, yay for the police
2/8/2009 3:06:48 PM EDT
[#8]
a cache? no, thats barely a start
2/8/2009 3:07:53 PM EDT
[#9]
Fuck New Jersey!
2/8/2009 3:08:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Turned in by a female relative

I bet the bitch never visits him as he rots in prison for the next 20 years.
2/8/2009 3:08:35 PM EDT
[#11]
maybe it was really a M2 Carbine
2/8/2009 3:09:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Oh god...I've got more within reach of my armchair.


LOL!  
2/8/2009 3:10:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Some of these "police" make me want to puke. They think they are better then everyone else and that they are the only one allowed to own guns or body armor.
2/8/2009 3:10:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Evil assault helmets MUST be banned!



It's for the chilluns'



2/8/2009 3:11:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
OMG he had a helmet!


Nope... An ASSAULT HELMET... This fucking state...My god.

If he's so confident, that chief should let us put it(and his faith in it) to the test.

When do we run these cock suckers out on a rail?
2/8/2009 3:11:51 PM EDT
[#16]
They ran and got THEIR ASSAULT RIFLES to combat the EVIL illegal one owned by a mere subject.

The stench of fail is unmistakable.
2/8/2009 3:12:51 PM EDT
[#17]
Never trust relatives.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.
2/8/2009 3:15:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Where can I get a bullet proof helmet?
2/8/2009 3:16:50 PM EDT
[#19]
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Fuck New Jersey!

So...are the NJ police gonna treat every single "my husband/son/brother-in-law/uncle/...is upset about money/loosing his job & owns guns" call, this way ?!?

Ain't nothing like job security in times of economic turmoil, I guess
2/8/2009 3:17:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Never trust relatives.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.


I don't get it.  She was worried about him.  SO swat shows up??? Are we missing something?
2/8/2009 3:17:33 PM EDT
[#21]
Pffft.



My dorm room had a better "cache" than that.



New Jersey is almost as pathetic as... my state.  



- BG
2/8/2009 3:18:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
a cache? no, thats barely a start


+1
2/8/2009 3:21:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
OMG he had a helmet!


Nope... An ASSAULT HELMET... This fucking state...My god.

If he's so confident, that chief should let us put it(and his faith in it) to the test.

When do we run these cock suckers out on a rail?


Just for saying that the SWAT team can show up at your house and take all your shit.  Relative calls them up, say you sound upset and whoop, next thing you know your surrounded and on the six o-clock news. Hope you don't have a dog.

2/8/2009 3:28:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Damn good that they took the guys guns, no telling what he may have done.  Someone's live could have been at risk.  

Oh wait, I thought we where talking about driving after having alcohol.

2/8/2009 3:30:21 PM EDT
[#25]
He must not of had a dog, if he did we would be reading about it getting shot.
2/8/2009 3:34:16 PM EDT
[#26]
 Those NJ LEOs should be ashamed of themselves.
2/8/2009 3:38:00 PM EDT
[#27]
If these cowards don't like dealing with gun owners they are wecome to stop at any point.
2/8/2009 3:57:16 PM EDT
[#28]
ONE FIFTEEN ROUND MAGAZINE!  I'm screwed!  good thing I dont live in 'New Joysey"  I dont even know how many mags I have.  What defines a CASHE!
2/8/2009 4:02:29 PM EDT
[#29]
How is the carbine illegal in NJ?

I missed it, could Ralph point out where he mentioned what law was actually broken?

ETA: Ah, NJ names "M1 carbine type" in their assault weapons ban.
2/8/2009 4:05:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Despondent with a bullet proof helmet?

What's he gonna do, shoot himself in the head?

2/8/2009 4:11:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Cache,
2/8/2009 4:14:22 PM EDT
[#32]
the size of these "caches" seem to be shrinking.
2/8/2009 4:15:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Tobias said officers who went to check on Kronengold around 9:48 a.m. found ammunition and a bullet proof helmet inside his home.

"It was just like the bullet proof helmets we wear," said the chief, referring to police.

The officers backed out of the home and evacuated three families from the area as a precaution, Tobias said.


You have got to be fucking kidding. So they see a helmet, and ammunition, and that required an evacuation of people from the area?
2/8/2009 4:16:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Tobias said officers who went to check on Kronengold around 9:48 a.m. found ammunition and a bullet proof helmet inside his home.

"It was just like the bullet proof helmets we wear," said the chief, referring to police.

The officers backed out of the home and evacuated three families from the area as a precaution, Tobias said.


You have got to be fucking kidding. So they see a helmet, and ammunition, and that required an evacuation of people from the area?


He could have pissed in the helmet and toss it at people, o my. Only police are allowed to piss on the public and get away with it.
2/8/2009 4:18:09 PM EDT
[#35]
If a NJ LEO saw my "cache" they be calling in the national guard for air support.
Good thing I dont have a dog.

This shit is really disgusting.
I wonder what they will demonize after guns have been banned and removed from society...well, you know.....except for cops.
2/8/2009 4:20:32 PM EDT
[#36]


WOW..how did he get a police issue helmet ?


2/8/2009 4:24:58 PM EDT
[#37]




Quoted:

maybe it was really a M2 Carbine




LOL! if only..... No, NJ banned the M1 Carbine by name.
2/8/2009 5:30:19 PM EDT
[#38]
That is just plain Scary!
2/8/2009 5:36:28 PM EDT
[#39]
New Jersey police and politicans =
2/8/2009 5:44:02 PM EDT
[#40]
It was probably a "throw helmet" that the Po-Po "accidently" left behind when they went to gear up for the raid.
2/8/2009 5:49:00 PM EDT
[#41]
We are going to see a lot more of these "cache" type stories in the news.

The choice of words used is always funny.
2/8/2009 5:53:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Ive see 2 bb guns and a gross of bottle rockets described as a "cache". epic.
2/8/2009 6:00:55 PM EDT
[#43]
15 RD MAGS ARE LEGAL IN NJ ,NOW  THE M1  COULD BE ILLEAGL BUT THEY GO BY NAME,
2/8/2009 6:15:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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Never trust relatives.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.


I don't get it.  She was worried about him.  SO swat shows up??? Are we missing something?




The context of the call to police was probably something like this:

"He's really upset and mad at the govt, and he owns guns. He might hurt someone."

A call like that to police is all it takes to have SWAT descend on your house and confiscate your firearms.
2/8/2009 6:18:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Pffft.



My dorm room had a better "cache" than that.



New Jersey is almost as pathetic as... my state.  



- BG


Almost but we can have M1s an d 30 round mags
2/8/2009 6:20:14 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

The commercial carbine was made in Plainfield, NJ.  Sad how you can go from a state that produced tools a freedom to a state that arrests people with the tools of freedom.



Hell, look at S&W, Springfield, Colt, etc. etc. ALL are made in Communist states...................    
2/8/2009 6:29:23 PM EDT
[#47]
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/police_remove_man_from_rumson.html


Weapons cache found in home of Rumson man
by Ralph R. Ortega/The Star-Ledger
Sunday February 08, 2009, 6:20 PM


Removed from the home were two handguns, a 15 round magazine, and two rifles, including an imitation M1 Carbine, which is illegal assault weapon in New Jersey, according to the chief.







that's a weapons cache? wtf.


2/8/2009 6:30:05 PM EDT
[#48]
What a bunch of "Morans".
2/8/2009 6:32:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Never trust relatives.

A relative contacted police earlier today because she was concerned Kronengold was upset over back taxes and the repossession of his car, according to police.


I don't get it.  She was worried about him.  SO swat shows up??? Are we missing something?




The context of the call to police was probably something like this:

"He's really upset and mad at the govt, and he owns guns. He might hurt someone."

A call like that to police is all it takes to have SWAT descend on your house and confiscate your firearms.




Bet I know what his first stop when he gets out will be.


2/8/2009 6:33:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Here in the P.R.C. the Plainfield and Universil carbines are listed as assult weapons by name.

The M1 carbine on the other hand is perfectly legal (using 10rd clips)

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