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1/29/2009 4:02:20 AM EDT
I was recently on a trip and my Garmin fucked me for the first time.  Apparently my maps are older than the highway that was built 3 years ago.  I bought the unit last year.

Garmin sells a one time download update for $70, and a lifetime (up to 4x/yr.) for $120 on their site.  

Worth it or ass raping?  Is there an alternate source of reliable updates besides Garmin?  Going on a trip tomorrow, OCD is flaring up.  Help a brother out.

Thanks.
1/29/2009 4:03:36 AM EDT
[#1]
When I bought mine a new map came out a year later and I entered my serial number on the web page and got the update for free.  Did you do something similar (enter serial number)?
1/29/2009 4:08:17 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes, I know you get one free update when you buy a new one.  I don't know if it continues beyond that - I have not checked again.

You have to download software for your computer.

Download software for your GPS.

Download the map - it's over 2gigs and takes a long time.

So plan some time.
1/29/2009 4:12:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.
1/29/2009 4:40:15 AM EDT
[#4]
I just now registerd the thing and did the map upgrade search.  

It did not offer me a one time / first time freebie.  It took me right to a page selling this new map upload - City Navigator® North America NT 2009.1 Map Update

1/29/2009 4:53:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I just now registerd the thing and did the map upgrade search.  

It did not offer me a one time / first time freebie.  It took me right to a page selling this new map upload - City Navigator® North America NT 2009.1 Map Update



Huh, that's odd.  I bought mine a few months ago, and found the updated map thing by accident when I registered it.  This was a basic model Nuvi 200, maybe it's different for different models.

I believe this was the website I used:

Garmin Updates
1/29/2009 5:09:44 AM EDT
[#6]
I updated mine to 2009. I didn't pay for it because it's rediculous to pay for something thats still not fully updated. If you have torrent you can find it there.
1/29/2009 5:12:30 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I updated mine to 2009. I didn't pay for it because it's rediculous to pay for something thats still not fully updated. If you have torrent you can find it there.


Um...

Enlighten us please

Add me to the list of people with a newer Garmin loaded with older maps.
1/29/2009 5:16:17 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
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I updated mine to 2009. I didn't pay for it because it's rediculous to pay for something thats still not fully updated. If you have torrent you can find it there.


Um...

Enlighten us please

Add me to the list of people with a newer Garmin loaded with older maps.



Me too. Mine has all of USA and....get this....Newfoundland and BC. I want Ontario.

1/29/2009 5:17:27 AM EDT
[#9]
How do you know which version is on your GPS?
1/29/2009 5:19:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.


Did you lose your orginal USA maps when you used your SD card?
1/29/2009 6:33:37 AM EDT
[#11]
Tag
1/29/2009 6:39:03 AM EDT
[#12]
Sounds like Garmin is using the inkjet printer business model.
1/29/2009 7:53:22 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
How do you know which version is on your GPS?



2008 something.

I think I may have uploaded an "old" update when I registered it earlier today.  But there is a 2009.1 update available now and it's killing me.

Need more info on this torrent download.
1/29/2009 8:12:03 AM EDT
[#14]
I'll look it up when I get home. The 2009.1 I believe is the start of "Lifetime Updates" that only available for the specific GPS unit you have now. Not transferrable to newer units in future if I remember correctly.
1/29/2009 8:18:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Tag... Wife and I both have Garmins and there are probably 4 other units within my immediate family... All purchased in the last year.
1/29/2009 8:38:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I was recently on a trip and my Garmin fucked me for the first time.  Apparently my maps are older than the highway that was built 3 years ago.  I bought the unit last year.

Garmin sells a one time download update for $70, and a lifetime (up to 4x/yr.) for $120 on their site.  

Worth it or ass raping?  Is there an alternate source of reliable updates besides Garmin?  Going on a trip tomorrow, OCD is flaring up.  Help a brother out.

Thanks.


That 120 dollar lifetime deal sounds kind of good to me. I think I would go that route. Get ti. Go that route.
1/29/2009 8:46:47 AM EDT
[#17]
True but it may only be for the specific unit you have. If the unit breaks or you get a newer one, you may be SOL. If you guys are interested in how or what updates this map has, one website I frequent and pull my POIs from is poi-factory.com
You can browse the forums and see user gripes and expereinces.





1/29/2009 12:43:10 PM EDT
[#18]
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Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.


Did you lose your orginal USA maps when you used your SD card?


Nope, all the preloaded info stays on the hard drive, You put the SD card in and it loads the maps off the card. The drawback is no card=no maps.  But you can swap the card between different Garmins
1/29/2009 2:02:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
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Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.


Did you lose your orginal USA maps when you used your SD card?


Nope, all the preloaded info stays on the hard drive, You put the SD card in and it loads the maps off the card. The drawback is no card=no maps.  But you can swap the card between different Garmins


Can you copy the new maps over the old maps?

1/29/2009 3:06:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
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Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.


Did you lose your orginal USA maps when you used your SD card?


Nope, all the preloaded info stays on the hard drive, You put the SD card in and it loads the maps off the card. The drawback is no card=no maps.  But you can swap the card between different Garmins


Can you copy the new maps over the old maps?


I can't copy the maps off the SD card I got of of ebay but the SD works in all garmins.  The SD that you buy from garmin I think, don't quote me this, can be copied from the card to the hard drive of the GPS, but will only work with one unit. I do know you download the up to date maps free off the web, put it on a card and then transfer it to the garmin hard drive.  It's not the legal way of doing it.  Haven't tried it because the software is PC only, I run a mac

1/29/2009 7:03:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
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Check ebay, I bought a map for Australia and China for like $30 on the SD card.  They worked perfect when i was over there.


Did you lose your orginal USA maps when you used your SD card?


Nope, all the preloaded info stays on the hard drive, You put the SD card in and it loads the maps off the card. The drawback is no card=no maps.  But you can swap the card between different Garmins


So I if I buy/borrow (anyone anyone) a Europe disk and stuff it into my Nuvi, drive around Germany at Warp 9, and pull the card out when back in the USA; I will still have my USA maps?
1/29/2009 7:33:45 PM EDT
[#22]
I believe the maps on the SD cards overlay the original basemap as long the card is in. It just reads from the card not copy from it from what i understand.
1/31/2009 7:49:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Well... my head is about to explode.

I just spent the better part of 2 days downloading the 2009 maps for my Garmin via bittorrent...   and I'll be goddamned if I can't figure out how to install the fucking thing in my GPS.
The instructions are obviously written by a goddamn computer geek and don't do shit for the average Joe. (me)

I should have just spent the fucking $60 on the Garmin website and been done with it.
1/31/2009 8:02:13 AM EDT
[#24]
ell, i updated mine- fucking garmin in their infite cheapness only puts JUST enough memory in the fucking piec of shat to hol maps.   it took forever to download nad i had to go into the operating system of the fucking thing to delete all other languages and a buch of othe shit to make room for their download.  adding a sd card dosent do shit as the maps gota be on the main unit memory.   what a fucking pita.  why they dont just add a little more memory is beond me...
1/31/2009 8:10:05 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
ell, i updated mine- fucking garmin in their infite cheapness only puts JUST enough memory in the fucking piec of shat to hol maps.   it took forever to download nad i had to go into the operating system of the fucking thing to delete all other languages and a buch of othe shit to make room for their download.  adding a sd card dosent do shit as the maps gota be on the main unit memory.   what a fucking pita.  why they dont just add a little more memory is beond me...


Any simple pointers to help a novice ?

I think all I need is a key and I should be good to go...

1/31/2009 9:51:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Check your PM. I think you need to unlock the maps you downloaded. You have a usb cable that came with the unit?
1/31/2009 11:35:23 AM EDT
[#27]
I have a USB cable that came with my 250g external Hdd...  that should work, right ?

For whatever reason, when I plug the GPS into my 'puter, it doesn't see it as a "drive" when I click on "my computer"...  so I can't get in to it and wipe out the old files to make room for the new ones.
1/31/2009 1:54:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I have a USB cable that came with my 250g external Hdd...  that should work, right ?

For whatever reason, when I plug the GPS into my 'puter, it doesn't see it as a "drive" when I click on "my computer"...  so I can't get in to it and wipe out the old files to make room for the new ones.


Try plugging it in, then restarting your computer.  Apparently if the thing is connected at start-up, you can view it as a "drive".

RF
1/31/2009 6:48:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Meh...  never got it to burn over the old maps or even see it as a drive for that matter...  

I did manage to get the '09 maps loaded however... after I bought a 4g SD card and plugged it into the unit.

That's the only way I could get the new maps to work with my (C330 Streetpilot) units. I have two of them.

Took about an hour to load everything...
1/31/2009 7:05:56 PM EDT
[#30]
I bought a Garmin Nuvi 200 after Thanksgiving 2007 for $200, and a Tom Tom ONE after Thanksgiving 2008.  The Nuvi is a POS.  Always shows me going offroad, and somehow my max speed on record was 179 mph.  

The only disadvantage that I can see to the Tom Tom is that I can't press the screen to "bookmark" a location.  It requires you to enter it as an address, crossroads, etc.  I want to be able to say "Bob's House", for example.
1/31/2009 7:11:05 PM EDT
[#31]
I found a torrent and downloaded them.
1/31/2009 7:23:21 PM EDT
[#32]
I bought a Nuvi 200 just last night. The walmart that I bought it from wasn't even recognized on the maps. I registered and updated the software on it, but it's not eligible for a free map update.
1/31/2009 7:27:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
 The Nuvi is a POS.  Always shows me going offroad, and somehow my max speed on record was 179 mph.  


Well, the Garmin will do that too.

No fucking way will my Chevy pickup go this fast.

First time I noticed it was on a trip from NC to PA a month ago...

1/31/2009 7:48:48 PM EDT
[#34]
If your devices are having glitches, check for updates such as firmware. I have the nuvi 250W and updating is a breeze. I also use custom POIs to warn me of speed traps and red light cams.
2/1/2009 9:46:24 AM EDT
[#35]
If anyone was able to get the maps and need to be unlocked, I have the Garmin Unlocker.
2/9/2009 3:44:54 PM EDT
[#36]
If anyone has managed to get this updates here's the step-by-step installation website.

http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2008/05/how_to_install_garmins_map_upd_1.php
2/9/2009 3:53:08 PM EDT
[#37]
I downloaded it and I am glad I didn't shell out the money for it. The updates I hoped were on there, werent.
2/9/2009 3:58:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I downloaded it and I am glad I didn't shell out the money for it. The updates I hoped were on there, werent.


You mean new roads, ramps or subdivisions built in your area or the areas you travel? Garmin gets their maps from NavTeq which really take their time in updating the maps. A lot have been disapointed by these updates but still wanted the latest.
2/9/2009 4:05:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
ell, i updated mine- fucking garmin in their infite cheapness only puts JUST enough memory in the fucking piec of shat to hol maps.   it took forever to download nad i had to go into the operating system of the fucking thing to delete all other languages and a buch of othe shit to make room for their download.  adding a sd card dosent do shit as the maps gota be on the main unit memory.   what a fucking pita.  why they dont just add a little more memory is beond me...


Don't know what kind of a unit you have, I have the Zumo 550 and I have Topo 2008 loaded on the SD card, it works with no problems.

2/9/2009 5:37:11 PM EDT
[#40]
There's a difference with the units which is why some are having problems. The nuvi models can be updated by usb direct to the units while some older models may need SD cards.
2/9/2009 6:08:23 PM EDT
[#41]




Quoted:

Meh... never got it to burn over the old maps or even see it as a drive for that matter...



I did manage to get the '09 maps loaded however... after I bought a 4g SD card and plugged it into the unit.



That's the only way I could get the new maps to work with my (C330 Streetpilot) units. I have two of them.



Took about an hour to load everything...


how did you do it?  im about to try it.

2/9/2009 8:41:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I downloaded it and I am glad I didn't shell out the money for it. The updates I hoped were on there, werent.


Yeah, last year they completed a section of freeway, and built a couple new areas out and none of those were in the new map updates.
2/11/2009 3:10:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Meh... never got it to burn over the old maps or even see it as a drive for that matter...

I did manage to get the '09 maps loaded however... after I bought a 4g SD card and plugged it into the unit.

That's the only way I could get the new maps to work with my (C330 Streetpilot) units. I have two of them.

Took about an hour to load everything...

how did you do it?  im about to try it.



Well...  it took two days of bit torrent downloading...  then a whole fucking afternoon trying to figure out how to get it from my computer to my GPS units.
Finally, I realized I needed to put the map on an SD card. Once the SD card was inserted into the GPS, the maps loaded... no problem.

I'm a total nube at this stuff...  and it literally took me all damn day to figure it out...  Trying to explain it to someone just ain't possible.
3/6/2009 7:59:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Some info in case y'all are wondering....

How Garmin Updates Work
3/7/2009 5:28:56 AM EDT
[#45]
I still haven't done anything with the updates.  The torrents are a pain in the ass and I'm too cheap to fork out $120 for an update subscription that may take a couple of years to update the areas I need.  

4/14/2009 2:46:53 PM EDT
[#46]
2010 is out. Got myself a new Garmin,  Nuvi 255W. I don't need all the bells and whistles so this will suit my needs. The map update is free so I'm gonna try to "work on it" like the 2009 maps.
4/14/2009 4:36:50 PM EDT
[#47]
OFT
4/14/2009 5:30:08 PM EDT
[#48]
I just registered on the Garmin website and typed in the serial and everything.  It's a good thing I read this thread, it said I had 18 days to update the map for free and then after that it would be available for purchase on their website.  It's a 1.92 GB file...we'll see how long it takes to download.
4/14/2009 7:44:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Well that didn't work at all...it did take about 2 hours total to get the stuff downloaded and on the device with their program.  When I went to turn it back on it said that there is no map loaded that supports routes and that warning won't leave the screen.  So, now I'm running it again to see if it will fix it.  Otherwise it's time to call up Garmin I suppose.

BTW the map that it updated to was version 2010.10
4/14/2009 7:48:32 PM EDT
[#50]
I hope you guys aren't too pissed if the roads you're looking for STILL aren't on the maps.

Garmin's not exactly the best about that.
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