Posted: 1/5/2009 6:20:07 PM EDT
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I work at a fast food joint and was just promoted from cook to assistant manager. I never CC at work before because of how dirty they got when it came time to close up and my clothes made it hard to hide. but now that i don't have those problems time starting to think about it.
This is what i know: 1. I never signed anything saying that weapons, CC or otherwise where not allowed (i would never open carry at work, wouldn't end well) 2. With my new uniform im able to CC much easier. THIS is what i dont know: 1. i dont know if the owner approves of CC (but i would assume no) 2. i cant find any information about from corporate dealing with CC I work mostly young kids (still in high school), i am young myself (23) and am a full time student. Stores around at area are being robbed at gun point and im always the last one out of the building, most of the time ill be by my self. Help me AR15.com (even tho i think i know what you'll say) poll to come! |
| If the boss cannot gaurantee 100% safety to you,( and they can't), and the police cannot always be there, (and they can't), and the police have no duty to protect you, (and they don't), you have the right and the obligation to protect yourself. I say carry. Tell no tales, under any circumstances, no-one should know. If you have to use it to protect yourself or others, you have done the right thing. If they fire you for that, you can always get another job, but you have only one life. |
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That's what pocket pistols are for. Kel-Tec, Ruger LCP, .38 snubbie, etc. Just get a pocket holster and you're set. It's not like a fast food job is an awesome career opportunity that you'll be giving up on if you have to defend yourself. This man speaks the truth. You won't even notice it's there... but it will be, if and when you ever need it. |
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If they find out that you're carrying, the worst thing they can do is fire you.
From a fast food job. Think on that. Then, think on what happens when you're closing at 2AM, and armed gang members rush in, demanding the money, get pissed off when there's about $150, and they realize that the store employees have seen their faces. Do you want to be discovered head-shot in the freezer next Tuesday morning? Fuck it. Carry. Concealed means concealed. The life you save might be your own. |
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i agree about carrying. if it was a high paying job with rules saying no weapons on the premisis then i'd say no. but your working at a fast food restaurant with no expressed rules about firearms. also in a robbery prone place where you have to lock up late at night. id rather get fired then dead because i couldn't protect myself. |
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If they find out that you're carrying, the worst thing they can do is fire you. From a fast food job. Think on that. Then, think on what happens when you're closing at 2AM, and armed gang members rush in, demanding the money, get pissed off when there's about $150, and they realize that the store employees have seen their faces. Do you want to be discovered head-shot in the freezer next Tuesday morning? Fuck it. Carry. Concealed means concealed. The life you save might be your own. Absolutely THIS. I work in a restaurant (not fast food though) and my daily routine requires a lot of bending and reaching so concealment is not an option for me. The company handbook specifically says no weapons at work so I'm sure I would get fired if caught, although I do carry to work and leave my pistol in my car. I hadn't thought of the pocket pistol before though, that might be a good idea especially since I wear cargo pants. If you don't feel comfortable CCing your regular piece then I would definitely look into the pocket pistol route. |
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If they find out that you're carrying, the worst thing they can do is fire you. From a fast food job. Think on that. Then, think on what happens when you're closing at 2AM, and armed gang members rush in, demanding the money, get pissed off when there's about $150, and they realize that the store employees have seen their faces. Do you want to be discovered head-shot in the freezer next Tuesday morning? Fuck it. Carry. Concealed means concealed. The life you save might be your own. Can't really improve on that post |
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If you have a couple hundred bucks to spare, you might want to consult with an attorney about that.
They would be able to tell you all of the possible legal ramifications. Laws vary from state to state. Breaking the LAW and breaking a company POLICY are two very different things, and that is where it can get tricky. Under no circumstances whatsoever should you break the law. As to a company policy, I would make every effort to abide by that as well, however, I am with the others who say "you can always get another job but you only have one life." It really bothers me when companies have "no CCW" policies, yet on the other hand provide their employees with no security and expect them to work in bad areas. Just be aware that you most likely WILL be fired if you are discovered breaking their rules, and any unemployment claim would probably be denied too because they would be firing you "for cause" (i.e., not following their rules). May I make a suggestion? You say you are alone in the restaurant after hours and the last one to leave. I would advise you to look carefully at your night time closing routine, and see if there are any changes you could make to your routine that might reduce or eliminate the chances for forced entry or robbery after hours. There might be a lot of things you could do along those lines that would improve your security short of carrying a weapon. Maybe you could work out some new tactics in that respect. Remember: superior TACTICS nearly always trump superior FIREPOWER. And if that restaurant is having you do cash deposits in the bank late at night, I would quit right now. That is like wearing a big neon sign that says "Learn my routine and rob me please." Good luck and stay safe. |