[ARCHIVED THREAD] - So I started jogging (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/30/2008 8:32:27 PM EDT
and I still smoke! 
I've cut way back and I figure if I jog, it will motivate me to quit since it's a fucking disgusting habit and I want to quit. Anyway, I need to drop about 20 pounds. I haven't jogged in YEARS! I walked fast pace for 1/4 mile then jogged at a pretty steady pace for 1/4 mile then walked slowly to stop the pain, stretched then jogged another 1/4 mile. Moderately out of breath but not heaving or anything and my pulse is back to normal pretty quick. MY SHINS FUCKING HURT!! and my ankles as well I stretched pretty well but after the first 1/4 mile jogging, my shins were as hard as a rock and fucking HURT. I jogged more than that the other night and it was about the same Should I stretch longer and drink more water before I go next time? Is this something that will subside after time? |
| Hydrate yourself well before you go jogging. Stretch and more stretching-take it slow and easy the first week or two and then increase the amount of time you jog. Your speed will increase as your lungs/body gets used to the time. Keep it up, I know it sucks at first but hang in there. Your body will do more than your brain says. |
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Hydrate yourself well before you go jogging. Stretch and more stretching-take it slow and easy the first week or two and then increase the amount of time you jog. Your speed will increase as your lungs/body gets used to the time. Keep it up, I know it sucks at first but hang in there. Your body will do more than your brain says. Sweet. I started on Sunday night and really went at it from the get-go. That was a mistake. I was about 1/2 mile from home and cold barely walk back I was in so much pain from tightness and muscle fatigue. I just kept telling myself "It's all in your head, don't be a pussy" I made it home, walked around slowly for a few minutes then stretched again. Woke up the next day a little sore but not as near as bad as I was expecting. I miss being in shape. |
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I've recently been walking alot and had the same shin pain at first, but it has been getting better. I noticed it was considerably worse if I had been out drinking the night before so I assume dehydration was something to do with it also. And I can honestly say, I don't drink NEAR the amount of water I should be drinking. I was all about diet sodas and the occasional regular soda. Lately it's been unsweet iced tea and water throughout the day. |
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Stretch before and after you run. After the first two weeks of continuous exercise, consider doing light interval training. This shall increase the development of your muscles. Drink lots of water, consider eating a banana or fruit after running. There is a 30 minute window after running during which the body is best geared for accepting new nutrients lost during exercise, eating well immediately after your run will make you feel better the next day.
It'll be worth it when you can do your first 5k, then 10k easy in one run without a serious stop 
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I'm wanting to drop a few pounds before I start working out again and possibly join a gym. I'm just too embarrassed to join one now because I'm out of shape.
I've been doing light stuff for now. 50 crunches and 50 pushups at night and in the morning. I'm a pretty big buy naturally. I've always loved that when I start lifting weights, I can build up rather quickly. I don't know if it's my build or genetics or what but I usually get pretty quick results which is a double edged sword because I see results then get a little lazy...then get real lazy. Not this time though. I'm headstrong this go round. |
| Do a Youtube search for "dynamic stretching". Walking and running in the beginning is actually the proper method for starting out. It's very important to start out slowly to allow your joints and tendons to strengthen, which occurs at a slower rate than your muscles. Strong muscle combined with weak joints & tendons equal an injury in the very near future. Keep at it! |
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I'm wanting to drop a few pounds before I start working out again and possibly join a gym. I'm just too embarrassed to join one now because I'm out of shape. I've been doing light stuff for now. 50 crunches and 50 pushups at night and in the morning. I'm a pretty big buy naturally. I've always loved that when I start lifting weights, I can build up rather quickly. I don't know if it's my build or genetics or what but I usually get pretty quick results which is a double edged sword because I see results then get a little lazy...then get real lazy. Not this time though. I'm headstrong this go round. That's 80% of the battle! You're going to do great!!!
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Just take it slow. Eat a handful of salted pretzels and drink a little gatorade about an hour before you run. I know it seems nuts but it will help reduce muscle cramps. I guess it has something to do with the salt. I always run better early in the morning.
I started out only able to run about a mile before I had to walk and I can run between 5-7 miles now before I need to take a breather. I hope to have it up to 10 by next spring. |
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Go to a running store, not Footlocker or any of the other shoe stores with employees that know nothing about shoes. Find a good store that specializes in running shoes and tell them to tell you what shoes you need. They will likely have you take your shoes off and walk back and forth through the store a few times then show you a pair of shoes that are horribly ugly. Buy them.
I took this advise about 5 years ago and have enjoyed running since then. Shoes can make a world of difference if you have the right ones. |
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Thanks guys! Here is my most recent pic http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/austinbelair/range14-1.jpg I'm 5'11 and ~210 right now. My goal is 190 and I will see what needs to be done then. Cut the smoking, sugary drinks, and any excessive fat out of your diet and if you have the will power to keep up jogging you will drop weight fast. |
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Go to a running store, not Footlocker or any of the other shoe stores with employees that know nothing about shoes. Find a good store that specializes in running shoes and tell them to tell you what shoes you need. They will likely have you take your shoes off and walk back and forth through the store a few times then show you a pair of shoes that are horribly ugly. Buy them. I took this advise about 5 years ago and have enjoyed running since then. Shoes can make a world of difference if you have the right ones. There is a store here in Austin called Runtex that specializes in running/athletic shoes etc The exact thing happened last time I was in there. They suggested some shoes, I thought they were ugly so I opted for a different pair. I never did run in them, just ended up using them as sneakers for everyday use. These are the shoes I'm using now so I need some new ones. |
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Go to a running store, not Footlocker or any of the other shoe stores with employees that know nothing about shoes. Find a good store that specializes in running shoes and tell them to tell you what shoes you need. They will likely have you take your shoes off and walk back and forth through the store a few times then show you a pair of shoes that are horribly ugly. Buy them. I took this advise about 5 years ago and have enjoyed running since then. Shoes can make a world of difference if you have the right ones. There is a store here in Austin called Runtex that specializes in running/athletic shoes etc The exact thing happened last time I was in there. They suggested some shoes, I thought they were ugly so I opted for a different pair. I never did run in them, just ended up using them as sneakers for everyday use. These are the shoes I'm using now so I need some new ones. I think there are some unknown rules to producing quality running shows that actually work for me the way they should............they must be the ugliest shoe in the store. When I was younger I could run in any shoe, now I can't so I rock some ugly shoes but my legs and feet don't hurt |
| Make sure that you don't bounce too much as you run. This is a big consideration if you're overweight, and also helps with shinsplints. Stretch your stride out, and make sure that you roll smoothly from heel to toe. Make sure that you move forward, not up and down. This will save your energy, make you go faster, and help to prevent joint injuries and shinsplints. |
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I suffer shin splints HORRIBLY.
Make sure that you're warming up before you start your run. Pull one knee into your chest and rotate your foot in a circle, stretching as much as you can. Repeat with the other and do it liberally. Don't just do it for a second. Hop up and down on the balls of you feet and then let your heel touch the pavement a few times while you're hopping. Find a curb and put your toes on it, stand there, and using just your toes ... lift yourself up and down without stepping off the curb so that your heels lower down pretty far. If you will do that RELIGIOUSLY before each jog ... it should help alleviate some of the tenderness, tightness. Repeat the process when you're finished, too. |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also.
Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? |
| My car was in pieces the other day and I didn't have the right tool for the job. To get to the auto parts store I decided to pull out my old bicycle and air up the tires (anything to keep from riding the fuckin bus)...I rode 4.5 fast miles and could hardly walk, I felt like throwing up, I had to stop and walk up the last hill, and my legs were shaking. I was having a hard time breathing and my throat hurt. Yeah, I'll be joining you on the jogs from now on, that just accented how incredibly out of shape I am! I got my ass kicked! |
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running is great and now it is my preferred method of exercise and this is going to be the year i complete my first marathon. that said I would look elsewhere in the beginning, for me it was cycling, another option is elliptical type machines, the beauty of those forms of exercise is that they allow you to build up a great cardio base while burning way more calories than running which is nice when weight loss is your goal I like running as a method of maintaining but i just dont think it is efficient enough as a method of weight loss, it takes a long time to build up good distance, and without that. as was stated before diet > exercise for weight loss
BTW I went from 235-188 in less than a year and have maintained it for a year after -Mike |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? that seems to be the new thinking but to be honest I think they are comparing apples to oranges, high intensity for the relatively short period of time is better than something like cycling for the same period of time but you just cannot maintain real high intensity long enough for it to be the main form of exercise when looking for weight loss, IMHO. -Mike |
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My car was in pieces the other day and I didn't have the right tool for the job. To get to the auto parts store I decided to pull out my old bicycle and air up the tires (anything to keep from riding the fuckin bus)...I rode 4.5 fast miles and could hardly walk, I felt like throwing up, I had to stop and walk up the last hill, and my legs were shaking. I was having a hard time breathing and my throat hurt. Yeah, I'll be joining you on the jogs from now on, that just accented how incredibly out of shape I am! I got my ass kicked! LOL I had to do the same thing today with my bike. I had my distributor opened up and I didn't want to put it all back together so I hopped on my bike. FTW |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? What he meant, I believe, is how is it any more effective then running for the same amount of time at the proper heart rate? In his condition any activity is good. |
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45 min - 1 hr is ideal.
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? that seems to be the new thinking but to be honest I think they are comparing apples to oranges, high intensity for the relatively short period of time is better than something like cycling for the same period of time but you just cannot maintain real high intensity long enough for it to be the main form of exercise when looking for weight loss, IMHO. -Mike Well suit yourself. 
I lost 25 lbs in two month period by eating good and riding a bike. Some days I would do intense 15 mile rides that would only take me 45 minutes and some days I do 2-3 hours rides for 35-45 miles. I think my 15 mile rides averaging 20mph and some good hills on a standard aluminum frame mountain bike would kick anyones ass on this board. |
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? that seems to be the new thinking but to be honest I think they are comparing apples to oranges, high intensity for the relatively short period of time is better than something like cycling for the same period of time but you just cannot maintain real high intensity long enough for it to be the main form of exercise when looking for weight loss, IMHO. -Mike Well suit yourself.
I lost 25 lbs in two month period by eating good and riding a bike. Some days I would do intense 15 mile rides that would only take me 45 minutes and some days I do 2-3 hours rides for 35-45 miles. I think my 15 mile rides averaging 20mph and some good hills on a standard aluminum frame mountain bike would kick anyones ass on this board. I think you are misunderstanding me I actually agree with you and I completed my first full century and two metrics and the 100 miler was done in 5 hours of saddle time (actually took 5:30 with a flat and refill/piss breaks, I do know what it takes to ride at almost a 20 mph pace at least for the Honolulu century  ) I love cycling I just wanted to set a new goal for this year, so I am more focused on running. cycling was a much better way to lose the weight but running is doing just fine for maintaining.
IMHO cycling is far superior for weight loss and so are the other options like some of the cardio machines. -Mike ETA: 
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Keep in ind you can jog all you want and you won't lose any weight if you don't eat well also. Losing weight is 90% diet, 10% exercise. When it comes right down to it, you really don't burn alot of calories jogging. Riding a bike for two to three hours sustainable pace, that's burnin some cals. Agree with the diet part... not so much on the rest. If you really want to lose it then do high intensity interval training. So riding a bike for 2-3 hours while keeping your heart rate in it's ideal location isn't a good way to burn calories? that seems to be the new thinking but to be honest I think they are comparing apples to oranges, high intensity for the relatively short period of time is better than something like cycling for the same period of time but you just cannot maintain real high intensity long enough for it to be the main form of exercise when looking for weight loss, IMHO. -Mike Well suit yourself.
I lost 25 lbs in two month period by eating good and riding a bike. Some days I would do intense 15 mile rides that would only take me 45 minutes and some days I do 2-3 hours rides for 35-45 miles. I think my 15 mile rides averaging 20mph and some good hills on a standard aluminum frame mountain bike would kick anyones ass on this board. ETA: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/mjmjr1312/garmincentury.jpg Pretty sweet!
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My car was in pieces the other day and I didn't have the right tool for the job. To get to the auto parts store I decided to pull out my old bicycle and air up the tires (anything to keep from riding the fuckin bus)...I rode 4.5 fast miles and could hardly walk, I felt like throwing up, I had to stop and walk up the last hill, and my legs were shaking. I was having a hard time breathing and my throat hurt. Yeah, I'll be joining you on the jogs from now on, that just accented how incredibly out of shape I am! I got my ass kicked! LOL I had to do the same thing today with my bike. I had my distributor opened up and I didn't want to put it all back together so I hopped on my bike. FTW Well, at least I know I'm not alone! |
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Hydrate yourself well before you go jogging. Stretch and more stretching-take it slow and easy the first week or two and then increase the amount of time you jog. Your speed will increase as your lungs/body gets used to the time. Keep it up, I know it sucks at first but hang in there. Your body will do more than your brain says. by hydrating before he means the night before. when you are dehydrated you tend to cramp up in your sides and back easily. drinking water right before you run doesnt help you, and it can make you cramp also. stretch you calves and shins real well the night before also. I get shin splints when my strides are too short, like running in formation. make sure the ball of your heel makes contact with the ground first instead of just slapping your feet down. practicing this helps you learn to lift your knees and use your whole leg to propel you, instead of just shuffling. 30-60's are a good way to get your endurance up. walk 60 seconds, sprint as fast as you can 30 seconds, etc. that and I run on a track with lightposts going around it. I sprint from lightpost to lightpost, then jog for two lightposts, etc. practice controlling your breathing. 90% of the time heavy breathing can be controlled by making a conscious effort to slow it down. |
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Finding the correct shoes is paramount and don't skimp on them either. There is a world of difference between a $60 pair and a $120 set. Cheap considering the long term benefit and short term comfort. Crappy wrong shoes can lead to all sorts of problems.
Finding something to do/think about while running is also good. If you sit there and think about what you are actually doing you are going to get bored and focus on the discomfort. Either train your mind to think about either things or get an iPod and set yourself up with a good motivating running playlist. As far as actual running develop a good breathing pattern and stride that works for you. I've found about one breath every fourth stride works for me. I also run better keeping my shoulders back, pelvis forward, and a more upright position. Stay hydrated and eat quality foods. Interval traning, sprints, and different paces/distances on each run are also useful in their own way. Have fun and don't quit. When I was working out getting ready for basic the best I could do was about a 10 minute mile. I got down to about a 6 minute one mile run at my best. Once you break through the new runners wall you will have a lot easier time with it. One last thing- make sure you supplement your running with core body and stabilizer muscle training. The poster who mentioned doing things to improve balance was spot on there. |