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12/11/2008 1:49:21 PM EDT
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think
12/11/2008 1:56:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think



It's like asking a firing squad if they know how to shoot.
12/11/2008 1:58:13 PM EDT
[#2]
You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?
12/11/2008 1:59:38 PM EDT
[#3]
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i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think


I see no problem with this.  America's punishment system is broken, particularly the death penalty.

If the death penalty is meant as a deterrent to crime, it certainly is not in this country.

It is sad that some babies aren't even given a chance at life yet a convicted murderer gets 10+ years on death row.
12/11/2008 2:01:15 PM EDT
[#4]


I have seen one, while in Riyadh.

Every second friday, at chop chop square.

They dragged the guy out of a minivan into the middle of the square, obviously heavily drugged, a sword was used. Huge crowd showed up the watch. Suppposedly drug dealers and murderers.

It was surreal.
12/11/2008 2:04:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think


I see no problem with this.  America's punishment system is broken, particularly the death penalty.

If the death penalty is meant as a deterrent to crime, it certainly is not in this country.

It is sad that some babies aren't even given a chance at life yet a convicted murderer gets 10+ years on death row.


The death penatly cant be much of a deterrent when a majority of crimes go unpunished.
12/11/2008 2:04:39 PM EDT
[#6]
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You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?


this maybe be true but hearing that someone was executed and seeing it are to totaly different monsters and i do believe it would deter some people
im not saying all just some
12/11/2008 2:08:11 PM EDT
[#7]
I wouldn't be against a public execution, but I wouldn't show up to watch a free viewing.  If some one is to be executed then carry out the sentence and be done without making it a spectical.
12/11/2008 2:09:59 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?


this maybe be true but hearing that someone was executed and seeing it are to totaly different monsters and i do believe it would deter some people
im not saying all just some



And hearing it 20 years after the crime doesnt effect too many people outside the immediate families involved.  I dont think the death penalty is a deterent because the execution is so far removed from the crime and trial.

Now if after your conviction, they marched you to the gallows in the town square and dropped you like a sack of potatos it might make somebody think twice.
12/11/2008 2:11:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?


this maybe be true but hearing that someone was executed and seeing it are to totaly different monsters and i do believe it would deter some people
im not saying all just some



And hearing it 20 years after the crime doesnt effect too many people outside the immediate families involved.  I dont think the death penalty is a deterent because the execution is so far removed from the crime and trial.

Now if after your conviction, they marched you to the gallows in the town square and dropped you like a sack of potatos it might make somebody think twice.


+1
12/11/2008 2:16:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Lets start with crooked politicians !
12/11/2008 2:19:16 PM EDT
[#11]
I think public executions would help lower the crime rate.



But I wouldn't want to see them.



Trivia:



I have a small business card sized thing where my grandfather was deputized for a hanging in Missouri back in 1936.



Verbatim from the card:





I, Sam Harris, Sheriff of New Madrid County, Missouri, do hereby appoint <my grandfather's name> as Special Deputy Sheriff to assist at the Double Execution of Roy Hamilton and Eddy Gaymond for Murder. Execution to be at the New Madrid County Jail, August 16, 1936 between the hours of 5 (handwritten) A.M. and 6 (handwritten) A.M.



Not Transferable



Sam Harris (handwritten signature)

SAM HARRIS

Sheriff of New Madrid County, MO




Been saying for a while I need to research this info.



The "Not Transferable" part cracks me up.



12/11/2008 2:20:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.
12/11/2008 2:22:22 PM EDT
[#13]
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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.


so the farce that is capital punishment in America is good-to-go as is?

Last I checked, the death penalty was meant to punish and also meant to serve as a warning to others.  It's not doing its job.
12/11/2008 2:35:28 PM EDT
[#14]



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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.
I'd also like to think the path from accusation to execution is quite a bit more refined (fair, legal, factual, etc.) here in the U.S. as compared to those other nations you're referring to.



12/11/2008 2:38:56 PM EDT
[#15]
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You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?


Because this wouldnt take a dozen years and hundreds of appeals at cost to the tax payer...
12/11/2008 2:45:21 PM EDT
[#16]
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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.



I agree, sounds good when pissed off- but what would that make us ? no better than the nations we are fighting. How about the children that would see this ? Don't think they wouldn't be peeping in some how , and I can be as hard core as anyone- but I wouldn't be there to witness it.
12/11/2008 2:49:37 PM EDT
[#17]
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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.



I agree, sounds good when pissed off- but what would that make us ? no better than the nations we are fighting. How about the children that would see this ? Don't think they wouldn't be peeping in some how , and I can be as hard core as anyone- but I wouldn't be there to witness it.


People on death row for a decade or more wasting millions of dollars of tax payer money while their victims' families are left with the pain and emptiness of losing a loved one is the sign of a broken system.  Maybe, in this case, the third world countries have it right.

Also, parent's have control of their children and their interpretations of the world.  Live executions without the decade plus of waiting and the millions in wasted money means a clear message is sent to those that do harm: you WILL be executed SWIFTLY for your crimes.  We aren't playing around.
12/11/2008 2:55:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.



I agree, sounds good when pissed off- but what would that make us ? no better than the nations we are fighting. How about the children that would see this ? Don't think they wouldn't be peeping in some how , and I can be as hard core as anyone- but I wouldn't be there to witness it.


People on death row for a decade or more wasting millions of dollars of tax payer money while their victims' families are left with the pain and emptiness of losing a loved one is the sign of a broken system.  Maybe, in this case, the third world countries have it right.

Also, parent's have control of their children and their interpretations of the world.  Live executions without the decade plus of waiting and the millions in wasted money means a clear message is sent to those that do harm: you WILL be executed SWIFTLY for your crimes.  We aren't playing around.



Got no issue with swift, but not in the street like the rag heads- I don't want anything adopted from their way of thinking...
12/11/2008 2:55:56 PM EDT
[#19]
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You can find all the executions your heart desires on the internet.


ETA:  No, it would not be an effective deterrent.  If killing them does not deter crime, why would making it public make any difference?


      it takes up to 24 years to execute someone thats why its not a deterent DUH lay off the dope
12/11/2008 2:57:07 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think




Death penalty is niether a deterrent nor cost effective.  That said the public should be able to tune in if they so desire.
12/11/2008 2:57:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think


Deterrent? I don't think so and historically and currently places that practice public executions were or are  barbaric sh*tholes.

It may seem good on the outside but its evident it really doesn't stop much that one can tell.
12/11/2008 3:09:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
i would even pay to see
i also think it would be a better deterent


what does the hive think


Deterrent? I don't think so and historically and currently places that practice public executions were or are  barbaric sh*tholes.

It may seem good on the outside but its evident it really doesn't stop much that one can tell.


In third world countries where life is not valued, no death penalties don't seem to work.

However, in the USA, where life is, for the most part, valued, a death penalty (if done right) can be a very effective tool to curtail crime.
12/11/2008 3:10:56 PM EDT
[#23]
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Perfect idea, speed our descent into becoming a third world nation. While it may seem like a good idea on paper, look at which nations actually conduct public executions.



I agree, sounds good when pissed off- but what would that make us ? no better than the nations we are fighting. How about the children that would see this ? Don't think they wouldn't be peeping in some how , and I can be as hard core as anyone- but I wouldn't be there to witness it.


People on death row for a decade or more wasting millions of dollars of tax payer money while their victims' families are left with the pain and emptiness of losing a loved one is the sign of a broken system.  Maybe, in this case, the third world countries have it right.

Also, parent's have control of their children and their interpretations of the world.  Live executions without the decade plus of waiting and the millions in wasted money means a clear message is sent to those that do harm: you WILL be executed SWIFTLY for your crimes.  We aren't playing around.



Got no issue with swift, but not in the street like the rag heads- I don't want anything adopted from their way of thinking...


agreed.  I'm sure as Americans, we can find a better place to execute people yet in a more public manner.
12/11/2008 3:18:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Forget open! Forget free!  Put them on Pay-per-view!  Give half the procedes to pay for the time they spent in jail. The other half to the families of the victim(s).