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Posted: 12/19/2001 3:00:43 PM EDT
So the Feds are not going to charge John Walker with treason!! Instead they are going to charge him with aiding and abeting terrorism.. Bad mistake.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:04:35 PM EDT
Just when I was starting to think the USA was straightening it's ass out. They pull this shit. Shoot that little prick.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:05:42 PM EDT
Maggie Gallagher hit the nail on the head... [url]http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ucmg/20011218/cm/two_traitors_1.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:08:09 PM EDT
The bastard joined a foreign army and fought AGAINST United States forces. If that doesn't constitute treason, then what the hell does? The son of a bitch should have just been shot "trying to escape". Personally I would have just handed him over to the Afghans. Their brand of justice would have been much more fitting in this case.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:22:49 PM EDT
trea·son (trzn) n. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies. Unless he denounced his American citizenship beforehand.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:31:03 PM EDT
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[Last Edit: 12/19/2001 3:30:43 PM EDT by JAW]
Some things I've heard from the talking heads (may or may not be true): Treason requires a declared state of war Treason requires two eye-witnesses Related to this is an article I found. [url]http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011217/us/afghan_calling_it_treason_5.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:36:44 PM EDT
That's totally BS! Not trying him for treason? Idiots! Total idiots! This guy should hang!
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:37:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof: The Constitution is very specific about how to prove treason (confession in open court, or testimony of 2 witnesses that saw him do something). Since they know they cannot prove treason, they're not even going to bother to try. Makes sense to me, even though it is frustrating to see someone like that avoid a firing squad.
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I would think if he did take the Al-Queda terrorist 101 course and they can prove it then it is treason. I have heard media reports he did(for what they are worth). I think his fellow detainees would testify against him (An offer they can't refuse) with the right pressure.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:38:12 PM EDT
So, convict him of aiding and abeting and consider him a low escape risk and throw him in a medium security prison. That would pretty much be a death penalty, but in a less "humane" way than the needle.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:41:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JAW: Some things I've heard from the talking heads (may or may not be true): Treason requires a declared state of war Treason requires two eye-witnesses
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The relevant section from the Constitution(Art III-the Judiciary)
Section. 3. Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
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A person can levy war against a country without that country declaring war(for example a surprise attack). Also, it must have two eye witnesses, or open confession in court. I think the two eyewitnesses are easy to find.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:43:41 PM EDT
[url]http://www.sunspot.net/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.walker14dec14.story?coll=bal%2Doped%2Dheadlines[/url] Personally, I think he should swing, but I also think treason is tough to prove and probably not the most applicable offense.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 5:26:56 PM EDT
If they let him go, well accidents can happen. [grenade]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 5:50:22 PM EDT
All Taliban are martyrs? Me thinks he's gonna try and escape the naval vessel he currently resides on. The only way off is to JUMP. Do it Johnny Walker Boy! Jump! Jump! Jump! Jump! Body never recovered. Do I have to figure everything out? BTW- I heard news reports yesterday that he was found with an AK strapped on his back. Student huh?
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