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12/3/2008 7:20:03 PM EDT
I keep reading stories about Mexican gangs bringing their fights into the US.  I've also seen billboards in Alabama and Georgia for the US Border Patrol as well as a few private groups of civilians who volunteer to patrol the desert.  



Is anybody here involved in any kind of border patrolling or know of someone who is?  What's it like, and how many guns do you take?
12/3/2008 7:23:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Just a tag...
12/4/2008 1:06:39 AM EDT
[#2]
If you aren't a genuine real operator they only want you to be a cook for the "secret" civilian groups.  You know the ones that the .gov won't tell you about.

The impression I got was that the "Observe and Report" groups weren't looking for people bringing lots of firepower.  The idea was to be eyes and ears and not to be hunters.  they didn't want people going down there that wanted to either shoot at people or be shot at by people.

12/4/2008 2:07:08 AM EDT
[#3]
There are a several BPs here

One of the private groups is called "Minutemen"


AFAIK, The Minutemen avoid contact with illegals
they just attempt to observe them and call LEOs
12/5/2008 12:35:18 AM EDT
[#4]
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I keep reading stories about Mexican gangs bringing their fights into the US.  I've also seen billboards in Alabama and Georgia for the US Border Patrol as well as a few private groups of civilians who volunteer to patrol the desert.  

Is anybody here involved in any kind of border patrolling or know of someone who is?  What's it like, and how many guns do you take?


BP's sidearm is a HK P2000 .40.  Standard long arms are Colt M4's and 870's.  Pilots, and hopefully soon the boat guys, can take out UMP's.  The armories usually have a bunch of M14's in them as well, but they only get checked out by Honor Guard.  The specialty units get a bit more selection from SMG's to steyrs.  As far as what it is like, fun.  Sometimes satisfying, sometimes depressing.  The pay is good and I can't think of a whole lot of other folks that get paid to go 4X4'ing.

12/5/2008 12:40:17 AM EDT
[#5]
My uncle is retired USBP. He retired the second he could because he couldn't stand the BS and his hands being tied by his superiors and protocols.
12/5/2008 12:46:51 AM EDT
[#6]
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My uncle is retired USBP. He retired the second he could because he couldn't stand the BS and his hands being tied by his superiors and protocols.


Where was he stationed?

12/5/2008 12:47:53 AM EDT
[#7]
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My uncle is retired USBP. He retired the second he could because he couldn't stand the BS and his hands being tied by his superiors and protocols.


Where was he stationed?



15 years in Cali and 5 in Northern Maine. He retired PAIC of his station.
12/5/2008 12:56:57 AM EDT
[#8]
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My uncle is retired USBP. He retired the second he could because he couldn't stand the BS and his hands being tied by his superiors and protocols.


Where was he stationed?



15 years in Cali and 5 in Northern Maine. He retired PAIC of his station.


Hey, he was "The Supervisor".  Actually, that makes sense.  The PAIC's are good dudes a lot of the time.  Once it get's above their head...

ETA: if he retired as PAIC, at least he is comfortable these days.