[ARCHIVED THREAD] - WTF?! Hospital Security Guard... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/25/2008 3:33:56 AM EDT
 A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. |
| Univ. of Texas has one of the largest campus police departments in the country, with somewhere over 250 officers both sworn and unsworn. I did some training for them and they are top notch pros. This particular hospital is re-opening after the hurricane. I believe that officer works in the ER reception area. |
|
University of texas medical branch police
Not exactly a mall ninja organization. Even so there is some really cool stuff to steal in a big hospital, like all kinds of dope, maybe nuclear material for dirty bombs, hot nurses, etc. Joe |
|
Quoted:
http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/11/24/14112795/260xStory.jpg A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. So, you don't like open carry? Or is it AR15's? What good is an unarmed security officer? |
|
Quoted:
All hospital security staff will be upgrading to to semi auto weapons in preparation for your reaction to the new universal health care plan. I know you said this tongue-in-cheek, but you're actually hitting uncomfortably close to the truth. If the US govt. ever gets to the point where they take over the health care system, and we as a society simply start telling people "No," I can see plenty of "John Q Public" incidents happening. As Americans, we have a very strong "I deserve" attitude, and I can assure you that it's nowhere stronger than in the health care system. Right or wrong, declining to resuscitate somebody's end-stage-cancer-stricken grandmother one last time always generates ugly reactions. "Futile care" discussions are NEVER pleasant, and once the govt. starts defining down "futile," and begins rationing in earnest, it's not going to be pretty. |
|
Quoted:
http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/11/24/14112795/260xStory.jpg A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. University of Texas Medical Branch means that is probably a campus police officer. |
|
Quoted:
I've learned that some Hospitals and schools here in Texas (Houston, Dallas) have their own full police force. Gear, cars, etc.... Not just the local PD patrolling, but actually called "So and so Hospital Police" WTF  There are about 7 hospital police departments all operating under UofT medical center auspices. While separate units, they all fall under the same overall control. Texas passed a law giving Universities law enforcement powers after Charles Witman killed a bunch of people from the UT tower. |
|
Quoted:
http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/11/24/14112795/260xStory.jpg A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. University Police are very often sworn LEOs... And as someone who has carried an M16 day-in-day-out myself, I can guess that he was probably ordered to do that... No way in hell he'd say 'Hmm, I *want* to take the rifle today'.... |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
The caption sounds like he is a police officer, not a security guard. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that all UTMB security in Houston and in Galveston are TCLEOSE 
(as opposed to being security guards under the DPS jurisdiction) UT PD employs both Commissioned Police officers, fully TCLEOSE certified (blue-grey shirt) and non-commissioned officers (white shirt). The police officers attend a certified police academy run by UT in Austin. They are very professional and very well paid. TCLEOSE = Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education. If you have a TCLEOSE certification in Texas then you are a Police Officer. If you don't have one then you are not a Police Officer. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The caption sounds like he is a police officer, not a security guard. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that all UTMB security in Houston and in Galveston are TCLEOSE
(as opposed to being security guards under the DPS jurisdiction) UT PD employs both Commissioned Police officers, fully TCLEOSE certified (blue-grey shirt) and non-commissioned officers (white shirt). The police officers attend a certified police academy run by UT in Austin. They are very professional and very well paid. TCLEOSE = Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education. If you have a TCLEOSE certification in Texas then you are a Police Officer. If you don't have one then you are not a Police Officer. I had a girlfriend that was a UTMB security guard before they made the change
the first day they taught her how to NOT do the job for which she was hired "after you check this door, stop, don't go to the next stop right away" |
|
You've never seen an ER in an area that attracts career welfarians?
What do you think happens when members of rival gangs get shot and show up to the same ER with all their fellow gang members in tow? How about when a welfare mom brings her seven bastard spawn into the ER with the sniffles and after a quick triage gets told to come back in the morning? There are lots of opportunities for violence in a hospital where armed security would be needed. (Not to mention a morgue full of zombies!) |
|
I really don't blame the guy.
If I were him, and my Captain asked me to carry a SBR, I'd do it in a heartbeat. While typing in the word "heartbeat" in the above sentence, it triggered an old memory about "heartbeat it's a love beat" song sung my the Defranco family. Clicky for Hearbeat, It's a Lovebeat song sung by the Defranco family |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
All hospital security staff will be upgrading to to semi auto weapons in preparation for your reaction to the new universal health care plan. I know you said this tongue-in-cheek, but you're actually hitting uncomfortably close to the truth. If the US govt. ever gets to the point where they take over the health care system, and we as a society simply start telling people "No," I can see plenty of "John Q Public" incidents happening. As Americans, we have a very strong "I deserve" attitude, and I can assure you that it's nowhere stronger than in the health care system. Right or wrong, declining to resuscitate somebody's end-stage-cancer-stricken grandmother one last time always generates ugly reactions. "Futile care" discussions are NEVER pleasant, and once the govt. starts defining down "futile," and begins rationing in earnest, it's not going to be pretty. How many want to bet that gun owners will meet the definition of "futile care"? Or even people that say FUCK OBAMA! |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
All hospital security staff will be upgrading to to semi auto weapons in preparation for your reaction to the new universal health care plan. I know you said this tongue-in-cheek, but you're actually hitting uncomfortably close to the truth. If the US govt. ever gets to the point where they take over the health care system, and we as a society simply start telling people "No," I can see plenty of "John Q Public" incidents happening. As Americans, we have a very strong "I deserve" attitude, and I can assure you that it's nowhere stronger than in the health care system. Right or wrong, declining to resuscitate somebody's end-stage-cancer-stricken grandmother one last time always generates ugly reactions. "Futile care" discussions are NEVER pleasant, and once the govt. starts defining down "futile," and begins rationing in earnest, it's not going to be pretty. I agree 100%. I have pointed out to several govt. run health care supporters that the health care the govt. will give will not be the health care they are used to, with their UAW benefits. Not so shockingly these rubes actually thought they would get the same quality care but not have to pay for it 
BTW I like them carrying ARs  If you are going to shoot shitbags you might as well make sure they are dead, not just injured.
|
|
Quoted:
How many want to bet that gun owners will meet the definition of "futile care"? Or even people that say FUCK OBAMA! No. But if you're older and have one or more chronic illnesses, you may be looked at as "too expensive" or a "drain on the health care system." To some extent, they do have a point. Plenty of people with chronic illnesses don't take care of themselves, and continue to over-eat, smoke, drink, and do drugs... or they simply refuse to take their BP/psychiatric meds, insulin, or whatever. Conscientious people who manage their diseases religiously? They tend to do well. The others who choose, for whatever reason, not to take care of themselves? THEY are a drain on the healthcare system. I like taking care of people... it's what I do. I do, however, ask that the patient meet me halfway in terms of managing their illness. It's frustrating to pull the recalcitrant ones back from the edge time after time, after which they promptly go right out and resume the self-destructive behaviors that got them there in the first place. Some people are hopeless. |
|
Quoted:
I wonder why he'll need to spray so many bullets from that big clip. The pistol grip is used to spray bullets while firing from the hip. Each big caliber bullet can travel a mile and kill a person. Each clip can kill 30 people. Only the Police and the Military are professional enough to use an assault rifle. 
There is no reason why a duck hunter needs an Uzi assault rifle. 
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
I wonder why he'll need to spray so many bullets from that big clip. The pistol grip is used to spray bullets while firing from the hip. Each big HIGH caliber bullet can travel a mile and kill a person. Each clip can kill 30 people. Only the Police and the Military are professional enough to use an assault rifle.
There is no reason why a duck hunter needs an Uzi assault rifle. There, I fixed it for you. 
|
|
Work at a hospital down here during and after a hurricane.
Will be same situation for any big civil unrest. We had Nat Guard armed and guarding entrances and pharmacy for Katrina, Armor Corp for Gustav.... Wish our "security" was armed and so do they. Many are ex-LEO and miltary. |
|
No need to wait for Socialized medicine.
US health care is broken beyond repair now. You can be discharged from the hospital to an utterly incompetent nursing home with two, count them two, life threatening infections. Even if you're losing seven pounds a week for months because of your infections. Even if the hospital gave you the infection in the first place. Even if you have 40 United States Patents, and work at the VP level for one of the largest drug manufacturers on earth. You can be dead, two weeks later, from the same infection they said wasn't dangerous enough to warrant further treatment at the hospital. You aren't allowed to stay in the hospital, even if you pay for your room, bed, and care, out of your own pocket, in cash. Bring on socialized medicine. The horse is already dead. Let's get the corpse buried. |
Well if you would have bothered to check facts before acting like an idiot you would have found that UTMB - Galveston has a large PRISON hospital in it. It is the only prison hospital in Texas so any prisoner with a serious or long-term medical problem goes there. The hospital is at the end of a peninsula that sticks out into the Gulf of Mexico. It is also a regular hospital as well, but the prisoners are obviously kept in a separate area than those who are not. 
|
Weapons of war that are designed solely for killing large numbers of people dont belong at a hospital where all life is sacred. It even has the shoulder thing that goes up for gods sake. That thing could go off accidentally and kill a bunch of innocent kids. Hopefully obama fixes this travesty. 
|
|
Quoted: when i lived in Houston i dated a girl that worked at UTMB. in the dozens of times i went there i never saw the officers armed with more than a handgunWell if you would have bothered to check facts before acting like an idiot you would have found that UTMB - Galveston has a large PRISON hospital in it. It is the only prison hospital in Texas so any prisoner with a serious or long-term medical problem goes there. The hospital is at the end of a peninsula that sticks out into the Gulf of Mexico. It is also a regular hospital as well, but the prisoners are obviously kept in a separate area than those who are not. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
when i lived in Houston i dated a girl that worked at UTMB. in the dozens of times i went there i never saw the officers armed with more than a handgun Well if you would have bothered to check facts before acting like an idiot you would have found that UTMB - Galveston has a large PRISON hospital in it. It is the only prison hospital in Texas so any prisoner with a serious or long-term medical problem goes there. The hospital is at the end of a peninsula that sticks out into the Gulf of Mexico. It is also a regular hospital as well, but the prisoners are obviously kept in a separate area than those who are not. I never saw them with even a handgun
|
|
Quoted:
Univ. of Texas has one of the largest campus police departments in the country, with somewhere over 250 officers both sworn and unsworn. They have way more than that. Houston alone has around 100 sworn. UT-Galveston was never known for proper rifle techniques/handling. ETA- UT Galveston has a Level 4 Bio Lab with nasty stuff inside. One of the main reasons they bought rifles. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/11/24/14112795/260xStory.jpg A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. So, you don't like open carry? Or is it AR15's? What good is an unarmed security officer? I think he's averse to the fact that a civilian OC'ing an AR15 would get hassled by the po-po every 5 minutes, while this guy is immune even though he's just a hospital guard. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/11/24/14112795/260xStory.jpg A UTMB [University of Texas Medical Branch] officer guards Galveston's John Sealy Hospital with semiautomatic weapons as the hospital reopens Monday. So, you don't like open carry? Or is it AR15's? What good is an unarmed security officer? I think he's averse to the fact that a civilian OC'ing an AR15 would get hassled by the po-po every 5 minutes, while this guy is immune even though he's just a hospital guard. He is a fully licensed Police Officer in Texas. He is in his main jurisdiction which is the UTMB campus in Galveston. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The caption sounds like he is a police officer, not a security guard. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that all UTMB security in Houston and in Galveston are TCLEOSE
(as opposed to being security guards under the DPS jurisdiction) UT PD employs both Commissioned Police officers, fully TCLEOSE certified (blue-grey shirt) and non-commissioned officers (white shirt). The police officers attend a certified police academy run by UT in Austin. They are very professional and very well paid. TCLEOSE = Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education. If you have a TCLEOSE certification in Texas then you are a Police Officer. If you don't have one then you are not a Police Officer. I had a girlfriend that was a UTMB security guard before they made the change
the first day they taught her how to NOT do the job for which she was hired "after you check this door, stop, don't go to the next stop right away" They have their own way of doing things. Also they will fire a guard in a heartbeat for being a dumbass. It's their way or the highway. Do things by the book and stay out of trouble and UT Police is a great job while attending college. If you are a "do your own thing" sort of a person or think that procedures are the same as guidelines, then you won't last long there. |
|
Quoted:
Work at a hospital down here during and after a hurricane. Will be same situation for any big civil unrest. We had Nat Guard armed and guarding entrances and pharmacy for Katrina, Armor Corp for Gustav.... Wish our "security" was armed and so do they. Many are ex-LEO and miltary. I can't speak to hurricanes, but it gets wild and wooly in our ER and other areas some nights, and I only wished we had armed security. We have an unarmed guy who splits his time between security detail and mopping/sweeping floors. It's just a matter of time... |
|
Quoted:
That. Was. Horrible.
I really don't blame the guy. If I were him, and my Captain asked me to carry a SBR, I'd do it in a heartbeat. While typing in the word "heartbeat" in the above sentence, it triggered an old memory about "heartbeat it's a love beat" song sung my the Defranco family. Clicky for Hearbeat, It's a Lovebeat song sung by the Defranco family |