[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Please lock OP request (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/23/2008 7:55:34 PM EDT
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Well, they don't really expire, and you can go to an event like Knob Creek and use as much as your vehicle will carry in a short afternoon...and that is how you can use thousand of rounds you stockpiled....
See, if you just went and purchased them, you drive home thinking....shit I just blew through $4000 in ammo in an afternoon, but if you collect it over a ew years, you will forget about what you paid..... |
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Practice, barter, prolonged firefights lasting days, civil war? And if ammo is banned, will you really continue to shoot your stockpile for anything other than essential food and self-defense? Anyone have examples where the small arms ammo [not explosives] stockpiled by citizens have proven to be the key to their survival? I am not challenging the practice, I am just curious how massive, nearly immovable stockpiles of ammo are going to make the difference. It's going to save the owners of the ammo money as prices continue to rise. |
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I was discussing this issue with a friend in a bar last night.
I have about 30,000 rounds of .22LR. I guessed that I would probably be able to continue shooting for sport for about 25 more years. While 30,000 rounds of .22 sounds like a lot, that works out to being able to shoot only 100 rounds per month for the rest of this estimated time that I will be able to shoot. If right now I was unable to buy any more ammo or handloading components, I would still shoot. But I would carefully calculate how to make the ammo that I have last for the rest of the time I will be able to enjoy shooting. However, until that time comes that I can't buy any more ammo I will continue to shoot 500 rounds in a shooting session and continue to take classes where I shoot between 1000 and 2000 rounds in a week. |
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Until there are any indications that price is going to go down, I figure that every round I buy today is a round that I don't spend more on later when I decide I want to go shooting, Quoted:
Currency in the upcoming economic collapse. I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. |
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1. Economy of scale
2. Longevity (ammo rarely expires on its own) 3. Somewhat diminishing supply 4. Periodic non-availability 5. Increasing demand 6. Repeatability (hard to get the exact same ammo every time when you buy two boxes a month instead of one crate a year) 7. Comfort of knowing it's there 8. Romero movie outbreaks etc. |
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Practice, barter, prolonged firefights lasting days, civil war? And if ammo is banned, will you really continue to shoot your stockpile for anything other than essential food and self-defense? Anyone have examples where the small arms ammo [not explosives] stockpiled by citizens has proven to be the key to their survival? I am not challenging the practice, I am just curious how massive, nearly immovable stockpiles of ammo are going to make the difference. Well, considering I was buying 10k lots when LC was $150 per 1k, I guess I don't have to justify much of anything  I still have 20k just laying around 
FWIW: I shoot a lot, or did, I was doing 15k of 5.55 and 45acp a year in the first part of 2000. I do 300rds a month now 
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When diesel is $4.80 a gallon and rising, I fill my tank every chance I get. When it's $2.80 and dropping, I drive until I'm running on fumes.
I stockpile ammunition and components because I shoot. It's not getting any cheaper than it is today in the near future. The "If SHTF I'll have plenty of ammo" is really just a bonus as it's not something I consider very likely. |
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Practice, barter, prolonged firefights lasting days, civil war? And if ammo is banned, will you really continue to shoot your stockpile for anything other than essential food and self-defense? Anyone have examples where the small arms ammo [not explosives] stockpiled by citizens has proven to be the key to their survival? I am not challenging the practice, I am just curious how massive, nearly immovable stockpiles of ammo are going to make the difference. Ever see pics of Liberia, Somalia, Afganistan? We could be them someday. How do you know it's immovable? Could be spread out for all you know. Thats what the smart ones do. Uses? Barter, defense, offense, you name it. In the end, what do you care? Some folks collect coins, some collect Beannie Babies. Some collect guns and ammo. If you never need them, great! If you do, Thank God! ETA; Ammunition: the currency of the new millennium. |
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I am just curious how massive, nearly immovable stockpiles of ammo are going to make the difference. You are asking for a rational explanation to irrational behavior.  Irrational? i stock pile so i can continue to enjoy my hobby even if ammo is scarce or is to expensive which is very close to being now. do you guys that post these threads actually go out and shoot ? . |
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You never know what may happen. Hope I never need it and probably won't but just in case it's there.
I tell the wife it's for target practice and competition in the event ammo gets too expensive. When in cans it makes excellent door stops too. Zombies is the ultimate vast ammo supply event, we can only hope someday. 
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During a single-day shoot involving ARs, AKs or other EBRs, it's not unusual to run through half a thousand rounds. Attend just a couple of these shoots a year, and you're burning through at least a case of ammo every year.
Then there's the escalating price of ammo, and the prospect of tighter legal restrictions on ammo purchases. So, just exactly what is unreasonable about having a stash of 5-10K rounds? |
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why do people have to ask the question why? If you must know, I need arguments to convince the SO of the necessity of buying MORE. ok....economics....it's cheaper to buy it now then it will be in a few years even if there isn't a ban or heavy tax on ammo You can tell her that the price of ammo has steadily been going up over the last decade since the start of the AWB back in 94. People who bought thousands of rounds when 223 was under $200/1000rds are laughing at everyone else right now or turning a hell of a profit reselling their surplus ammo |
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I don't stockpile gasoline, because I am pretty sure it will be a quick trip down to the corner station to buy some, for basically the rest of my life. Even with all the environmental / political concern over the practice of burning fuel for our comfort and convenience, it will be available, at a price, for a long time to come. There simply is too much infrastructure (gas stations, cars, refineries, etc.) to quickly switch to an alternative fuel (that doesn't yet exist in suitable quantities.) It's also dangerous and impractical to store around the home.
Ammo, on the other hand, would be relatively easy to ban. Chinese ammo is already gone, at the stroke of Clinton's pen. The UN, the Obama State Dept., and the ATF are going to take care of the rest of the imported ammo, and eventually domestic ammo production will be regulated out of existence. Some combo of lead mining poisoning the environment, lead is needed for batteries to build our hippymobiles, or an ammo tax to "pay for" the social ills supposedly caused by guns. Prices for remaining ammo and reloading components will surge as ammo gets hoarded or shot up. Some rare calibers will go extinct, and those guns will be effectively wall hangers. If you're the type who stops at wal-mart on the way to the range, your guns will become poor clubs when the ammo shock comes Ammo stores a long time and won't burn your house to the ground (at least not like gasoline can.) So it makes sense to store some while it's easy to come by. |
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why do people have to ask the question why? If you must know, I need arguments to convince the SO of the necessity of buying MORE. WTF is it with people having to "JUSTIFY" something to their wife??? my spouse made sure last gunshow i worked to bring her home some more ammo for her gun...................then she had me pick up another 4 bulk packs of fed .22 for her ceiner conversion. gonna shoot thurs while the birds a cooking. as for "stockpile" answers if you watched it for the short time it was on, or didn't. check out Harsh Realm ammo was a major barter/ currency. |
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My ammo stockpile is outperforming the Dow...by a lot. Beating the DOW is no great trick. Ammo is good. More ammo is better. I feel it. I just want to understand it. If it is really banned there is no way in frick I'm shooting thousands a day unless it is in self-defense. |
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Practice, barter, prolonged firefights lasting days, civil war? And if ammo is banned, will you really continue to shoot your stockpile for anything other than essential food and self-defense? Anyone have examples where the small arms ammo [not explosives] stockpiled by citizens has proven to be the key to their survival? I am not challenging the practice, I am just curious how massive, nearly immovable stockpiles of ammo are going to make the difference. It don't eat much, and it can't hurt to have more rather than less. |
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Shooting 200 rounds a year, and no more, your pile of 2,000 rounds will be depleted in 10 years, and you will no longer be the owner of a functioning firearm.
If it is really banned there is no way in frick I'm shooting thousands a day unless it is in self-defense. We see exactly this same situation with pre-86 select fires. |
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why do people have to ask the question why? If you must know, I need arguments to convince the SO of the necessity of buying MORE. who's wearing the pants in the house OK, Cavemen. Tell me what a badass you are when she walks with half, puts a restraining order on you and they collect your guns [and your WWIII ammo pile which WILL be on the news], and then says you pushed her (misdemeanor DV assault) and you lose your entire collection forever. You'll be stockpiling arrows and strings for your bow. Second, it was a joke. well if your chick is set off to the point of filing a RO with a report of domestics for buying something without getting approval, then i feel sorry for you. |
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I've stockpiled because ammo was cheap when I did so, and I kinda like shooting a lot with the firearms I like to use. I've participated in Carbine courses which draw down ones inventory by 800-1200 rounds in a weekend, maybe more. There's also local shoots I participate in which might require a 1000 rounds during a weekend. Those occur 2-3x per year. I also bought heavily as I hedged my bets on ammo purchasing restrictions being a focus of .gov attack vs. a firearms ban. So, 10, 20, 30K rounds isn't a shitload if you shoot through 3-4K/year. Certainly not a lifetime supply. |
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Shooting 200 rounds a year, and no more, your pile of 2,000 rounds will be depleted in 10 years, and you will no longer be the owner of a functioning firearm.
If it is really banned there is no way in frick I'm shooting thousands a day unless it is in self-defense. We see exactly this same situation with pre-86 select fires. That has been my primary concern and the reason that I have been stockpiling ammo. |
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You need ammunition to shoot, so there's one incentive to buy; you need the brass for reloading, so there's another incentive to buy; and finally you need a variety of bullet weights and types within a caliber to cover all needs for the round, and there's yet another incentive to buy.
Before you know it you've got a press or two, dies, primers, powder, shot all over the place - and without really intending to, you've amassed a great pile of ammo and components. Look at it like it's money in the bank which, nowadays, it is. |