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11/11/2008 3:48:23 PM EDT
Before or after 01.20.09?
11/11/2008 3:52:28 PM EDT
[#1]
It depends when Iran gets the bomb. Israel will attack, with or without the US.
11/11/2008 3:54:35 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm thinking after.

Any chance this type of mission can be accomplished by sneaking arms to certain groups in Iran to attack the necessary facilities? I'm certain we've made friends amongst the enemies there.
11/11/2008 3:56:45 PM EDT
[#3]
If it doesn't happen before 1/20/09, the Israelis will be on their own, because shit-for-brains and that numbnuts Biden won't back them up.
11/11/2008 3:58:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Seen something on the news about this a week or so ago.  They said something along the lines that Israel has a time window, sometime in january I think, to destroy Irans reactor, before it goes on-line as bombing a active reactor would be very bad AKA chernobel?

Although Israel has elections coming up too, so who knows  I say go Israel!
11/11/2008 4:06:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Israel and the US will never jointly attack another nation.
11/11/2008 4:07:23 PM EDT
[#6]
I think Israel's elections are in February so no Netanyahu until after the coronation of Chairman Maobama.  That makes for bad timing for Israel which may not have the political will until after their own election by which time no one will have their back.

I think Barack will be inclined to through them to the wolves so they are likely damned if they do and nuked if they don't.

I'll see ya'll at Megiddo.

eta: spelling
11/11/2008 4:07:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Seen something on the news about this a week or so ago.  They said something along the lines that Israel has a time window, sometime in january I think, to destroy Irans reactor, before it goes on-line as bombing a active reactor would be very bad AKA chernobel?

Although Israel has elections coming up too, so who knows  I say go Israel!


nah, I don't think they're that far yet in the process. Chernobyl was a different deal.

Regardless, this is why I have about 50 gallons of unleaded gasoline in storage with double dose of stabil. I wouldn't put it past the Israelis to bomb.
11/11/2008 4:10:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.
11/11/2008 4:14:56 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.





ok...

11/11/2008 4:15:57 PM EDT
[#10]
It'll likely be before they build a bomb. Iran's nuclear reacter should be completed in January or February. (This is what I heard in person from an IDF officer visiting my church two weeks ago).

Sept 2007 - Israeli's destroyed Syria's nuclear reactor.

1981 - Israeli F16's destroyed a nuclear reacter being built in Iraq

It's only a matter of time. The Israeli's KNOW that Obama could care less if they live or die. They also know they'll have to take care of this problem all alone.
11/11/2008 4:22:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.





ok...



Source:  Bible

We won't see Iran wage war anytime soon.

11/11/2008 4:22:54 PM EDT
[#12]
I speak with Israeli people on day to day basis.  They are not happy about the turnout of this election.  They fear for their country.  I don't think they're going to stand by and wait for the US to back them up when the time is necessary.
11/11/2008 4:30:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I find it interesting that residents of Israel fear for their support under O yet resident Israelis vote democrat.  Rather mind boggling.
mc
11/11/2008 5:15:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I find it interesting that residents of Israel fear for their support under O yet resident Israelis vote democrat.  Rather mind boggling.
mc


You are confusing American Jews with Israeli Jews.  Two totally different cultures and mentalities.

11/11/2008 5:21:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Before or after 01.20.09?


Where's 'NEVER'....

They know that they don't have the conventional forces to do the job without us...

So unless they go nuclear, they won't...
11/11/2008 6:09:19 PM EDT
[#16]
I posed this same question last week in this forum.  

I believe that that it may occur before BHO takes office.  If Israel anticipates any form of military response, than I think they will do it before BHO takes office.  But, Iran attacking Israel is unlikely, as they dont share a common border and the closest possible ally country with a border to Israel is Syria.  The Iranian Air Force is woefully under equipped to strike back at Israel.  I dont think that a multi-national response would be possible, as most of the 6 day war countries from 1967 wouldnt band together to attack Israel.  

Terrorism would be the more likely response, and Iran can fund alot of terrorism.  

If Israel anticipates the need of some type of aid package in response to a conflict that would arise as the result of attacking the Iranian nuclear facilities, than I think that they would strike before BHO takes office.  The US is looking at massive internal bailouts, and more and more corpoations and even almost complete american industries are looking for help.  At some point our ability to provide aid to domestic and foriegn causes will be minimal.
11/11/2008 6:18:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Why would Israel attack anyone when we'll do it for them?
11/11/2008 6:20:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
It depends when Iran gets the bomb. Israel will attack, with or without the US.



++++1111.....I hope sooooooooo

11/11/2008 6:25:26 PM EDT
[#19]
I don't see why they wouldn't simply bomb any facilities they truly think will produce a nuclear weapon.  Iran's missiles are absolute shit as well.  I doubt they are very close.
11/11/2008 6:28:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Before or after 01.20.09?


You must be heavily invested in the MIC.

11/11/2008 6:30:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.





ok...



Ez. 38-39
11/11/2008 6:31:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
If it doesn't happen before 1/20/09, the Israelis will be on their own, because shit-for-brains and that numbnuts Biden won't back them up.


Sad but true.
11/11/2008 6:35:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Seen something on the news about this a week or so ago.  They said something along the lines that Israel has a time window, sometime in january I think, to destroy Irans reactor, before it goes on-line as bombing a active reactor would be very bad AKA chernobel?

Although Israel has elections coming up too, so who knows  I say go Israel!


Also, I read somewhere, that the Russian Air Defense Radar System will "go live"
VERY soon.

IF (if) this is true, then there are several factors that show a window closing soon.

11/12/2008 8:30:12 AM EDT
[#24]
How high will gas prices go if/when Israel attacks?
11/12/2008 8:37:16 AM EDT
[#25]
Not gonna 'appen
11/12/2008 8:41:05 AM EDT
[#26]
I am more worried about Obama stricking a seven year peace accord with Isreal and her neighbors.
11/12/2008 8:49:39 AM EDT
[#27]
After reading this article I voted before. I'm suprised they have waited this long.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4AB1WG20081112?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
11/12/2008 8:54:37 AM EDT
[#28]
Not under the "ruler"
11/12/2008 9:09:51 AM EDT
[#29]
Never
11/12/2008 9:12:18 AM EDT
[#30]
The answer is never. They will never attack Iran, neither will we. Iran shall get the bomb, to the complete surprise* of every libtard, and will then become an "untouchable" country. They will continue to fund terrorism but will no longer have to really fear reprisal. The "pragmatic" attitude in the west is as follows –– "Iran only rattles their sabre but they wont dare use the bomb becuase it would also mean their own destruction." So the world will settle into a complacent acceptance of Iran having the bomb. The same as what happened with North Korea. End of story.



* of course when i say "surprise" you know that it really means that Libtards know that Iran is trying to get the bomb,they just don't care. There naive world view is as follows "why is it that only rich "white" countries can have the bomb? its NOT FAIR! IS Iran a dangerous country? Yeah but the US is an imperialist empire that made Iran so angry. MAybe if they get the bomb then they will calm down!" Yes, that is really what they believe.
11/12/2008 9:18:02 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Not gonna 'appen



Like it didnt happen to Iraq in 81 and didnt happen to Syria recently.


11/12/2008 9:18:11 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If it doesn't happen before 1/20/09, the Israelis will be on their own, because shit-for-brains and that numbnuts Biden won't back them up.


Sad but true.


I thought Obama was "numb nuts" and Biden was "shit for brains"....
11/12/2008 9:19:38 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.





ok...



Ez. 38-39



Yep. Ezekiel's War.

11/12/2008 9:21:42 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
I think Israel's elections are in February so no Netanyahu until after the coronation of Chairman Maobama.  That makes for bad timing for Israel which may not have the political will until after their own election by which time no one will have their back.

I think Barack will be inclined to through them to the wolves so they are likely damned if they do and nuked if they don't.

I'll see ya'll at Megiddo.

eta: spelling


Missed one.  

See ya' at Megiddo.

11/12/2008 9:22:16 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Before or after 01.20.09?


Where's 'NEVER'....

They know that they don't have the conventional forces to do the job without us...

So unless they go nuclear, they won't...


Even a broken watch is right twice a day.
11/12/2008 9:25:20 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
How high will gas prices go if/when Israel attacks?


Per the former President of Shell Oil - $200/barrel.






5sub

11/12/2008 9:26:54 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I posed this same question last week in this forum.  

I believe that that it may occur before BHO takes office.  If Israel anticipates any form of military response, than I think they will do it before BHO takes office.  But, Iran attacking Israel is unlikely, as they dont share a common border and the closest possible ally country with a border to Israel is Syria.  The Iranian Air Force is woefully under equipped to strike back at Israel.  I dont think that a multi-national response would be possible, as most of the 6 day war countries from 1967 wouldnt band together to attack Israel.  

Terrorism would be the more likely response, and Iran can fund alot of terrorism.  

If Israel anticipates the need of some type of aid package in response to a conflict that would arise as the result of attacking the Iranian nuclear facilities, than I think that they would strike before BHO takes office.  The US is looking at massive internal bailouts, and more and more corpoations and even almost complete american industries are looking for help.  At some point our ability to provide aid to domestic and foriegn causes will be minimal.


The problem is that dealing with Iran's nuke program REQUIRES a land invasion...

No air force on the planet can handle the situation (yes, that includes us too) without going nuclear, or the deployment of a major land force along with air attack....
11/12/2008 9:30:24 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.





ok...



Ez. 38-39



Yep. Ezekiel's War.



This


however under current Israeli leadership they won't attack anyone, the Israeli elections are comming up soon hopefully they get someone with more balls in office.
11/12/2008 9:31:06 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.


God will do as God chooses.  

The US not helping Israel is what matters to me.






5sub

11/12/2008 9:32:55 AM EDT
[#40]


I’d say after.
11/12/2008 9:34:06 AM EDT
[#41]
Israel's government is so screwed up right now, that they won't be doing any pre-emptive strikes anytime soon.

Iran is not doing so well right now, inflation is high and Imadamnnutjob is getting to be less popular everyday (he's turning out to be Iran's equivalent of GWB).
11/12/2008 9:34:52 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.


God will do as God chooses.  

The US not helping Israel is what matters to me.






5sub



You realize that Iran being taken out benefits us to right?
11/12/2008 9:42:39 AM EDT
[#43]
After.

Barry Hussein does not like Israel, and he will pull back the American containment.

Netanyahu is likely to be the next Israeli PM (again), and has already said he will end the peace talks.
11/12/2008 9:43:22 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
I don't see why they wouldn't simply bomb any facilities they truly think will produce a nuclear weapon.  Iran's missiles are absolute shit as well.  I doubt they are very close.


Thats a very risky proposition.

11/12/2008 10:04:37 AM EDT
[#45]
before, and i am very shocked that it has not happened yet....


but after the missile test today, i say in the morning it will happen
11/12/2008 10:16:13 AM EDT
[#46]
After I voted I saw the following (and first time I've ever seen a tie in an ARF poll):

[ 66 ]  Before  [ 50% ]
[ 66 ]  After  [ 50% ]
Total Votes :: 132

11/12/2008 10:24:51 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
After I voted I saw the following (and first time I've ever seen a tie in an ARF poll):

[ 66 ]  Before  [ 50% ]
[ 66 ]  After  [ 50% ]
Total Votes :: 132



That settles it... it's definitely going to be either before or after.

11/12/2008 10:40:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Iran will attack first, along with Russia and many other countries.  Israel will be outnumbered greatly but Israel will win the war with the help of God.


God will do as God chooses.  

The US not helping Israel is what matters to me.






5sub



You realize that Iran being taken out benefits us to right?


Nope.






5sub


Edited to add:

I don't count $200/barrel oil as 'helping' the US.

11/12/2008 10:42:06 AM EDT
[#49]
The U.S. didn't "sell" the IAF earth-penetrating munitions (hundreds of them) for nothing folks.  I've been wrong many, many times on ARFCOM, so maybe I'm wrong here too, but it seems to me that the current administration and the DOD have given the Israelis the means to delay or destroy Irans nuclear weapons program-a concession by the Bush admin since he wouldn't be attacking Iran during his presidency.

Ahminjimidad-or whateverthefuckhisnameis-does not run the country.  The mullah's do.  He is just a mouthpiece for extremist muslims that dictate policy.  They-through him-have already made it clear what will happen to Israel and the USA.  The Isrealis have every right to pre-emptively attack Iran with whatever means available (yes, those little packages of sunshine) to prevent the Iranians from carrying out what they have repeatedly threatened:  "To wipe Israel off the face of the map".  What more does the Israeli government need?  Nothing is more powerful than the simple instinct for survival.    

I don't think BHO would not support Israel in some way or another.  He is only one man, and the Israeli lobby is too powerful in the USA to completely ignore.  His chief of staff is a Jew, so I think Israel is ok in that regard, although I could be wrong.

What would probably happen is a less visible role of U.S. support, such as allowing the IAF to fly over Iraqi airspace.  We already have troops permanently stationed over there now operating a radar to track incoming missiles.  I imagine alot of logistical support (spare parts, munitions) have been delivered in anticipation for what is about to happen.
11/12/2008 10:42:49 AM EDT
[#50]
In light of the missle test conducted by Iran today, and the upcomming Israeli election...soon after the election.  
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