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9/28/2008 3:06:47 PM EDT
Recomend a good sword and a place to buy.  Show pic.
9/28/2008 3:11:00 PM EDT
[#1]
there are alot of different swords.  try cold steel
9/28/2008 3:14:18 PM EDT
[#2]
"Sword" is pretty damned broad, covering a couple thousand years of history and several continents.  Could you be a little more specific (note that if you say "for self defense" I have to *facepalm*)?
9/28/2008 3:15:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Angus Trim.  Enough said.
9/28/2008 3:16:17 PM EDT
[#4]
It depends on the type of sword you want.

I'm happy with my Tibetan sword from Himalayan Imports.
www.himalayan-imports.com/
9/28/2008 3:16:45 PM EDT
[#5]
wall hanger?

theoretically useful one?

japanese?

roman?

viking?

chinese?

medieval?

renaissance?


9/28/2008 3:17:10 PM EDT
[#6]
What do you want it for.  

My personal favorite is my 1840 NCO sword.  Light , quick and works well when teaching new recruits the Hardee's Bayonet Drill.  I use it to demonstrate what the bayonet drill moves  are meant to counter.
9/28/2008 3:17:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Hassan chop!
9/28/2008 3:17:30 PM EDT
[#8]
By sword, are you using a sly sexual innuendo to suggest you're interested in a penis?

If so, could be more specific? There are many kinds of penises.
9/28/2008 3:17:37 PM EDT
[#9]
Busse AK47

video.aol.com/video-detail/busse-ak47-splitting-2x6-lengthwise/1932254749

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U8jDYXABlA

They run anywhere from $750 to $1000... Where to buy???  You'll have to scan the net...  BEST on the market though if you have the $$$...
9/28/2008 3:17:55 PM EDT
[#11]
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/

http://swordforum.com/

What type?  What price?
9/28/2008 3:24:03 PM EDT
[#12]
A New System of Sword Exercise for Infantry
By Richard F. Burton

London: Printed and Published by William Clowes and Sons, 13 Charing Cross, 1876

Editor's note: Although best known today for his explorations of Africa and his translation of A Thousand Nights and A Night, Captain (later Sir) Richard Francis Burton was also an avid swordsman. The book upon which this transcription is based was brought to our attention by Paul Nurse. Unless otherwise indicated, all footnotes are Burton’s.

Other web designers are encouraged to link to this page, but may not claim it as their own.

ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_burtonnewsword_0200.htm


and also

The Association for Renaissance Martial Arts

THE LEADING RESOURCE FOR HISTORICAL FENCING AND MEDIEVAL & RENAISSANCE COMBAT SKILLS.  Online since 1996.

www.thearma.org/
9/28/2008 3:24:38 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Recomend a good sword and a place to buy.  Show pic.


If you find one made from 440 like I did...this is awesome.  Its a freaking 40" long meat clever with a gut hook.  Takes a strong arm to swing and would chop down a evergreen if needed.

 


9/28/2008 3:30:09 PM EDT
[#14]
If you want an historically accurate and functional western european style of sword try

Albion

or

Arms and Armor


Angus Trim makes good functional swords (not high on historical accuracy) but outside the used market, good luck getting one.  

I sent John Lundemo of Odinblades a crude drawing of a sword and he hand-made a custom version for me.

9/28/2008 3:36:36 PM EDT
[#15]
I've got a guy that is going to be custom making a functional mameluke for me.  I'll let you know how it turns out.

-Ben
9/28/2008 3:40:54 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Angus Trim.  Enough said.


+1
9/28/2008 3:44:26 PM EDT
[#17]
I've had 2 of these
9/28/2008 3:47:15 PM EDT
[#18]
Claymore FTW!



AB
9/28/2008 3:50:14 PM EDT
[#19]
How good is museumreplicas.com?

I'm interested in a combat ready one.  I like viking, Japanese, and some african blades.

I also am interested in only 1 or 1 1/2 hand swords.  I am only 5'7" so a bastard sword could fit me as well.


How good are the swords from cold steel?  They look very impressive from their videos.
9/28/2008 3:54:10 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a couple form Del Tin, Italy. Good blades.
9/28/2008 3:56:51 PM EDT
[#21]
www.swordforum.com the AR15.com of the sword world. Pull up a chair and read.
9/28/2008 3:58:09 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Recomend a good sword and a place to buy.  Show pic.


If you find one made from 440 like I did...this is awesome.  Its a freaking 40" long meat clever with a gut hook.  Takes a strong arm to swing and would chop down a evergreen if needed.


 




Stainless steel is not good for swords. That is a decoration or something known as a Sword Like Object SLO.
9/28/2008 4:01:22 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
How good is museumreplicas.com?

I've bought a couple from Museum Replicas. I'd say they're better than what you'd get from that knife store at the mall, and since I don't expect to use them in combat that's good enough for me. I suspect they'd hold up long enough to decapitate a zombie or three, unlike the "Toledo" stamped mall swords I have.

Arms & Armor has tempted me more than once, but I could get a USFA Rodeo for that price. So I don't know about them (except that I'd give it a shot if they had what I wanted and I already had another SAA)

ETA requested pics -



The torc in the first pic didn't come with it, the 2nd pic is comparing it to the original ancient Irish sword (notice the lack of a head on the pommel, not sure why they left it off)
9/28/2008 4:06:04 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Recomend a good sword and a place to buy.  Show pic.


I'll answer that second part as I have bought from them

www.armsofvalor.com/
9/28/2008 4:23:56 PM EDT
[#25]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un1M7xbCCIs&feature=related


Lesson to be learned:  REASONABLE SIZE and weight are valuable attributes.

I personally am adherent of the Japanese school of swordcraft.  Authentic in design and
manufacture only, please.

I figure, and not without some justification, that the Japanese pattern is the most well
developed sword design of any as it it was developed and refined over about a thousand
years of constant warfare.   It has evolved into arguably the most functional and lethal
form of sword for one-on-one combat.

I absolutely detest wall-hanger "sword-like objects".  I wouldn't have one.  I will only
ever own swords that could be trusted in actual use.


CJ
9/28/2008 4:31:04 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un1M7xbCCIs&feature=related


Lesson to be learned:  REASONABLE SIZE and weight are valuable attributes.

I personally am adherent of the Japanese school of swordcraft.  Authentic in design and
manufacture only, please.

I figure, and not without some justification, that the Japanese pattern is the most well
developed sword design of any as it it was developed and refined over about a thousand
years of constant warfare.   It has evolved into arguably the most functional and lethal
form of sword for one-on-one combat.

I absolutely detest wall-hanger "sword-like objects".  I wouldn't have one.  I will only
ever own swords that could be trusted in actual use.


CJ


I love Japanese swords,

however, I do not think your typical samurai would be able to take on a Welsh knight in full armor with longsword.

But that is another famous ARFCOM discussion.
9/28/2008 4:32:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Old school taggage.  
9/28/2008 4:38:02 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un1M7xbCCIs&feature=related


Lesson to be learned:  REASONABLE SIZE and weight are valuable attributes.

I personally am adherent of the Japanese school of swordcraft.  Authentic in design and
manufacture only, please.

I figure, and not without some justification, that the Japanese pattern is the most well
developed sword design of any as it it was developed and refined over about a thousand
years of constant warfare.   It has evolved into arguably the most functional and lethal
form of sword for one-on-one combat.

I absolutely detest wall-hanger "sword-like objects".  I wouldn't have one.  I will only
ever own swords that could be trusted in actual use.


CJ


I love Japanese swords,

however, I do not think your typical samurai would be able to take on a Welsh knight in full armor with longsword.

But that is another famous ARFCOM discussion.



Your point is well taken, but the odds of having to take on said Welsh Knight in full armor
and armed witih a longsword are likely much lower than the odds of having to use a sword in self-defense in the first place.   The katana is a more practical design, as a result.

Now, if we had a problem with rampaging armed and armored Welsh Knights,  I'd
recommend a Claymore....the mine variant, if possible. But as our Knight problem is
well under control,  the Japanese sword is more of a practical solution for most people.

CJ
9/28/2008 4:42:52 PM EDT
[#29]
This of course begs the question of the best type of sword to use againt radioactive zombie hordes.
9/28/2008 4:44:36 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un1M7xbCCIs&feature=related


Lesson to be learned:  REASONABLE SIZE and weight are valuable attributes.

I personally am adherent of the Japanese school of swordcraft.  Authentic in design and
manufacture only, please.

I figure, and not without some justification, that the Japanese pattern is the most well
developed sword design of any as it it was developed and refined over about a thousand
years of constant warfare.   It has evolved into arguably the most functional and lethal
form of sword for one-on-one combat.

I absolutely detest wall-hanger "sword-like objects".  I wouldn't have one.  I will only
ever own swords that could be trusted in actual use.


CJ


I love Japanese swords,

however, I do not think your typical samurai would be able to take on a Welsh knight in full armor with longsword.

But that is another famous ARFCOM discussion.



Your point is well taken, but the odds of having to take on said Welsh Knight in full armor
and armed witih a longsword are likely much lower than the odds of having to use a sword in self-defense in the first place.   The katana is a more practical design, as a result.

Now, if we had a problem with rampaging armed and armored Welsh Knights,  I'd
recommend a Claymore....the mine variant, if possible. But as our Knight problem is
well under control,  the Japanese sword is more of a practical solution for most people.

CJ



You have a point that is well taken. Looking at it your way, you're absolutely correct.

Keeping the same tune we have going, if you wanted to own a sword to fight modern armored troops (ie SAPI plates and kevlar) the Japanese sword would not be my first choice.


I just realized how dumb our topic is, this isn't Cowboy Beebop or The Matrix.
9/28/2008 4:46:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Clicky

Kultofathena has swords from all the big names... just cheaper. I like this one a lot.
9/28/2008 4:52:08 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Your point is well taken, but the odds of having to take on said Welsh Knight in full armor
and armed witih a longsword are likely much lower than the odds of having to use a sword in self-defense in the first place.   The katana is a more practical design, as a result.

Now, if we had a problem with rampaging armed and armored Welsh Knights,  I'd
recommend a Claymore....the mine variant, if possible. But as our Knight problem is
well under control,  the Japanese sword is more of a practical solution for most people.

CJ


As is our Fuedal Japanese Duelist situation.

To be frank, Any sword in this day and age takes a back seat to more modern implements, and any discussion of Swords in the past is mired in either history or hypotheticals. The fact of the matter is that swords developed in concert with armour in a tit-for-tat development that was unique for every region.

The Katana pattern is good (and obviously I'm a fan), however it is neither the end all or the be all.

It incorporates no design fundamentals that weren't utilized elsewhere (arguably the tanto tip is unique, but thats another argument. Folding is another argument but that is not a design matter but a compositional one) especially when one considers eastern European and middle eastern designs.
9/28/2008 4:58:58 PM EDT
[#33]
height=8
Quoted:
Angus Trim.  Enough said.


Got all mine through Christian Fletcher.
9/28/2008 5:00:13 PM EDT
[#34]
All very good advise keep it coming.  

The sword I wand is usable, well made and looks good with a robe or in a kilt.  But I am not hung up on Celtic swords.
9/28/2008 5:02:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Yeah, we'd have to use up all our ammo before we resorted to swords.  


For the typical arfcommer,  I don't think that'd happen.  More likely, by the time we shot
up THAT much ammo, we'd get shot.  

I think a person should have enough ammo that there's little chance he'd be able to use
it all up before getting out-shot by the other team.


CJ
9/28/2008 5:03:39 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Yeah, we'd have to use up all our ammo before we resorted to swords.  


For the typical arfcommer,  I don't think that'd happen.  More likely, by the time we shot
up THAT much ammo, we'd get shot.  

I think a person should have enough ammo that there's little chance he'd be able to use
it all up before getting out-shot by the other team.
CJ


If the typical arfcommer used up "THAT" much ammo there wouldn't be anything left alive to kill.
9/28/2008 5:04:14 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
I have a couple form Del Tin, Italy. Good blades.


I have a Del Tin and I love it

9/28/2008 5:04:47 PM EDT
[#38]
If it's for a wall hanger, e-bay ftw...

9/28/2008 5:05:28 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
All very good advise keep it coming.  

The sword I wand is usable, well made and looks good with a robe or in a kilt.  But I am not hung up on Celtic swords.


In that case I'd personally be looking for something in the Excalibur pattern.  Simple, elegant, very classy and tasteful, and quite functional.  Moderate length,  good balance
is a must.

I think Albion makes just such an item.


CJ
9/28/2008 5:06:53 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Recomend a good sword and a place to buy.  Show pic.


If you find one made from 440 like I did...this is awesome.  Its a freaking 40" long meat clever with a gut hook.  Takes a strong arm to swing and would chop down a evergreen if needed.

 


i160.photobucket.com/albums/t185/Draco22_album/uruk-hai.jpg



that looks like an ORK sword from Lord of the Rings
9/28/2008 5:19:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Somewhere, there's a guy that has one next to his bed as the perfect home defense weapon. Yea right next to the airsoft AR !
9/28/2008 5:21:18 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
All very good advise keep it coming.  

The sword I wand is usable, well made and looks good with a robe or in a kilt.  But I am not hung up on Celtic swords.


For looking good with a kilt, what about one of the "basket-hilt" style broadswords? I believe they were a Scottish design, there are various styles of them available.
9/28/2008 5:21:31 PM EDT
[#44]
The Portugese, armed with rapiers, did pretty well against the Japanese.  As did at least one German officer in WWI.

These were all duels, and statistically speaking, there may not have been enough of them to draw a valid conclusion.

In our more modern times, a rapier might still be the best.  I like my sword cane, however, as it draws less attention when I go on  walks.
9/28/2008 5:24:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Anything from Ted at MMHW. I have a bowie and a smaller utility knife. I figure they'll survive the apocalypse. He's a great guy to deal with s well.
http://www.plan-a.org/mmhw/index.htm
9/28/2008 5:31:21 PM EDT
[#46]
Paul Chen Katana. Otherwise join this forum and find a private maker that makes the style you like.

swordforum.com/
9/28/2008 7:18:38 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:




To be frank, Any sword in this day and age takes a back seat to more modern implements, and any discussion of Swords in the past is mired in either history or hypotheticals. The fact of the matter is that swords developed in concert with armour in a tit-for-tat development that was unique for every region.



I've spent years on Sword Forum International and it's my understanding that swords have been carried as side-arms and USED in Iraq and/or Afghanistan.  I read one story of a Jihadi being dispatched to Allah with a Wakisashi and I know at least one custom gladius has gone to the sandbox.