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Posted: 11/28/2001 11:58:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2001 11:53:28 PM EDT by Ridge_runner]
well maybe not a fellon then again maybe somaybe so. Its called an E.P.O. (emergency protective order).Witch is what my ex-wife got on me the other day. Her boyfriend called me and told me about it. I made afew calls and it was true. And on what evidence was this issued on her word. Because there could be no evidence i havent saw her for weeks. But my second emendment right has been revoked! thats why she done it because she knows im a avid shooter and enjoy hunting. She used to call me every day on her cell-phone before she got the epo therefor i can get proof of that. the EPO has not been served on me yet im hardly at home and she dosent know were i work now because im afraid she will cause me problems there too. can anyone give me any advice before i have to go to the hearing? you can e-mail me or just post a reply.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:10:34 AM EDT
Get your guns to a friend's house immediately.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:16:20 AM EDT
Unless, of course, you want to go through all the legal hassle of getting your stuff back.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:32:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 12:25:41 AM EDT by Righteous_Kill]
While awaiting for the hearing. Move the all guns to a friend or family members house. Another one is pawning your guns, in effect having the pawn shop store your guns under lock and key. This also creates a record showing you had no access to your firearms. Get an attorney, follow his advise. Don’t go near your wife. (Don’t violate the PO) That really upsets a judge when someone violates a PO they’ve issued. Gather your evidence, witnesses, character witnesses, anything that will help show you are not a threat to this person. Also any thing that might help show she’s done is out of spite. Good Luck!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:36:01 AM EDT
Watch the movie [i]Snatch[/i], and then find a pig farm ASAP! [;)] [devil]Tyler[devil]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:44:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 3:58:54 AM EDT
... The dirty little secret about this is unfortunately: [size=2]You [u]are[/u] guilty until proven innocent in these cases![/size=2] ... Our cities "finest" are even getting into thorny ground with these just because their womenz had a really bad period the same time her favorite dog died. There are cases now where good cops are assigned desk jobs because the law considers them dangerous. ... The sad fact is [u]anyone[/u] can get an [b]Order of Protection[/b] against [u]anyone[/u] [u]without anything more[/u] than a good acting job in front of your local JP. ... This can seriously ruin your day!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 4:46:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ridge_runner: ...Witch is what my ex-wife got ..
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Funny faux pas. Witch...is ex-wife. [:D]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 5:03:32 AM EDT
I dont care how many of you claim to be happily married...they are ALL BITCHES!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 6:04:25 AM EDT
What everyone said about the guns - NOW... ...and STAY AS FAR THE HELL AWAY FROM HER AS YOU CAN and DON'T CALL HER!!!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 6:37:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 6:37:15 AM EDT by AR308and223]
Sometime's their little BS schemes can work agains't them. I was supposed to be out of town for the week for business (approx 200 miles away). I had to return to get some equipment. She wasn't at home and her car were there, checked with a couple neighbors as to where she might be. One nieghbor knew my wife was whorin around, called her and told I was at the house. While nosey nieghbor was on phone, I left to back to job site, she didn't know because I closed the garage door. Be-atch thought she would get smart. She called the police and told them, she had been having an affair, that I was barricaded in the house with alot of guns and was making threats. SWAT showed up, started calling for me to come out. After awhile SWAT, finally stormed the house and didn't find anyone at home! BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHA Police called job site where I was supposed to be, building phone operator transfered the call, guess who answered [:D] Needless to say in Divorce Court, the Judge wasn't amused with her actions! Edited to note, this is post #666, strange enough, it deals with the Ex! [}:D]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:01:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mags: I dont care how many of you claim to be happily married...they are ALL BITCHES!
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Are NOT! [stick]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:13:11 AM EDT
Ridge Runner, my ex did the same thing to me a few years ago. Follow these two pearls of wisdom and things will be okay in the long run: 1. Get your guns to a friend's house. 2. Keep your mouth shut.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:13:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AR-15gal:
Originally Posted By mags: I dont care how many of you claim to be happily married...they are ALL BITCHES!
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Are NOT! [stick]
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Gotta agree with AR-15gal on this one. I've got a good one. My guns are strewn about the bedroom, and not a complaint is made. (i do have a safe on the way, cause the kid is about to begin crawling. I'm not THAT stupid.) wannabe
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:22:58 AM EDT
Wow, this bites. I mean it litterally sucks the sweat off of a lawn gnomes balls! I know the intent of this law has gotta be for women really in danger, but there is no evidance that can be presented. I would take that as a personal attack if it happened to me and would be really upset about it. I wonder if this new boyfriend had anything to do with it. Did he call up and tell you because he thought it was the right thing to do, or to gloat and be the first to tell you that you got screwed by your girlfriend and not in the fun way. [argue]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:34:11 AM EDT
Definitely move your guns to a friend's house, and then keep us posted. Talk with a cop friend and see how you can get this EPO removed or nullified. Also, talk with a lawyer. If there is anything we can do, let us know.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:39:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 7:57:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy:
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: Get your guns to a friend's house immediately.
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As in, RTF NOW! -Troy
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For the time being, but find a storage facility to make it official. Get a lawyer. Talk to the wife only through the lawyer or neutral courier. Best of luck!!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:11:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:28:51 AM EDT
First off you have to be convicted of something to become an instant felony. A protection order is not any type of crime untill you violate it. Sure off site storage of your firearms is a good idea, but you will loose nothing as long as you remain cool and collected. Legally she is scared of you and this is the legal way to protect herself from the evil side of you she is sure exists. In reality she is fucking with you trying to hurt you even more. Just be glad in the fact that she is going to be out of your life soon and then she will be off fucking with some other guys emotions, not yours. I hope there are no children involved or you will have to deal with this mistake the rest of your life.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:34:58 AM EDT
Some are bitchs, some are really good. I have personally dated both. For example: My 1st Girlfriend, a real beautiful Hispanic, decided to leave me with a parting shot. She busted me in my nose with her fist. That bitch actually drew blood. Of course, she knew I wouldn't hit her back. Another Girlfriend, a nice looking Irish Redhead, got pissed when I ran out of money to buy her expensive stuff with. Then, she kept everything I gave when she left me. Then again, I dated a nice American Blonde who was the sweetest person you'd ever meet. Unfortunately, her Father didn't like me too much. I am still hoping, we can hook back up one she turns 18. Note: I am not a wierdo. I am only 20 myself.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:35:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:41:05 AM EDT
runner, you say you haven't been served yet because you aren't ever home. I don't know about KY, but in Oklahoma, you don't have to be officially served in person. You were told about it over the phone, IT IS IN EFFECT. Be very careful.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:50:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: So what you're saying is, she hasn't turned on you [b][size=4]YET.[/size=4][/b] You must be young. Even the Bible says, somewhere in Proverbs, "Hell hath no fury, as that of a woman scorned." They "scorn" over the darndest things too.
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No that's not in the bible. And neither is "God helps those who help themselves." Those are just proverbs of our culture.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:18:08 AM EDT
Just to advise you about "Part 2." This will be the part where she contacts you to work it out. She will ask you to meet her someplace to "discuss things." This is a TRAP. The police will be called prior to your arrival. You will violate the PO by showing up. If you have kids, they will be the pawn. She will need you to pick them up for some "reason" unscheduled. You are in the beginning of a big ass chess game that will affect the rest of your life. Stay about 4 moves ahead. See everything as a trap designed to wipe you out. 1. Get your guns to a nondisclosed location PRONTO. 2. State only "I no longer have guns in my possession." When asked where they are, state only "I no longer have them" until your lawyer tells you different. 3. Get a lawyer. It will cost a ton of money but no where near the amount you will lose without one. 4. Go over your place like a cop. Look for anything even "slightly" illegal and get rid of it or move it out. Do not just hide it. 5. EXPECT a visit from local PD looking for things like machine guns, kiddie porn, dead bodies, drugs, stashes of cash or stolen property. 6. Watch out for the NEW boyfriend attack. After he learns what a child nolesting, drug addicted pervert you are he may want to mess with you. Or at a minimum vandalize your property. 7. Park your car in secured locations ONLY. Or else a sizable amount of drugs could magically appear under your seat just prior to a police tip off. 8. Resist the urge to retaliate when she does one of the above. Common trap goes like this... Your car gets vandalized. Pissed off you go to tell her "knock it off." 5 mins prior to your arrival she calls police saying you just threatened to kill her and would be there in 5 mins. BE CAREFUL.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:19:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 9:16:04 AM EDT by cnatra]
Originally Posted By Righteous_Kill: While awaiting for the hearing. Move the all guns to a friend or family members house. Another one is pawning your guns, in effect having the pawn shop store your guns under lock and key. This also creates a record showing you had no access to your firearms.
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I think the Pawn shop is a BAD idea. If you pawn your gun & then go back with the cash to pick it up, guess what, background check & waitung period unless you have a CCW permit. At least here in TX. AND I think another yellow sheet. I'm not 100% on that part but still , even though your reclaiming your property the 94' Fed Crime Bill requires the background check etc. Total B.S. Oh , and have you ever seen the interest Pawn Shops charge?!!? Just find a trust worthy friend or a family member to store the guns with. You could even write up a bill of sale to your cousin/uncle whoever.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:20:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AR308and223: Sometime's their little BS schemes can work agains't them. I was supposed to be out of town for the week for business (approx 200 miles away). I had to return to get some equipment. She wasn't at home and her car were there, checked with a couple neighbors as to where she might be. One nieghbor knew my wife was whorin around, called her and told I was at the house. While nosey nieghbor was on phone, I left to back to job site, she didn't know because I closed the garage door. Be-atch thought she would get smart. She called the police and told them, she had been having an affair, that I was barricaded in the house with alot of guns and was making threats. SWAT showed up, started calling for me to come out. After awhile SWAT, finally stormed the house and didn't find anyone at home! BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHA Police called job site where I was supposed to be, building phone operator transfered the call, guess who answered [:D] Needless to say in Divorce Court, the Judge wasn't amused with her actions! Edited to note, this is post #666, strange enough, it deals with the Ex! [}:D]
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DAMN! You ever think about the pig farm? [}:D]
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:37:04 AM EDT
Here in Pa. it's a PFA (protection from abuse). It is served by a constable who can go where you are, at home, work, etc. Get all your firearms to a safe location, don't contact her and get a GOOD Lawyer. Work a lot of O.T. and keep cool. Don't do anything without legal representation. The order is probably only temporary until you go to trial before a judge to see if it waranted. I've been there and managed to get all charges dropped at the hearing as they were unfounded. I had a great lawyer and he my ex look like an asshole in court. Oh yeah, I've got full custody of my kids, kept the house, guns and H.D. Best of luck to you.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:44:41 AM EDT
If you want to fuck the bitch one more time do this: Wait till she calls trying to trick you into coming over. Now, tell he "I'll be there in 30 minutes." Make sure to record the part where she asks you to some over. Now call her new boyfriend and play the tape of her asking him to come over. Now, sit back and turn on your TV and see what happens when the new boyfriend shows up and the cops are there. Hopefully she will have told you have guns. Even more hopefully, the new boyfriend will make a sudden movement in front of the cops. We can only hope.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 10:20:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cc48510: My 1st Girlfriend, a real beautiful Hispanic, decided to leave me with a parting shot. She busted me in my nose with her fist. That bitch actually drew blood.
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I really wish girls I have been with and will be with would be able to do something like this when they are pissed at me. This is something I can understand, and beats the hell out of the withholding-the-goods, and mind-fucking and psy-ops f#ckin' games they love to play.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 10:48:38 AM EDT
Here is how EPO's work in California. The victim calls the police to report domestic violence / stalking / terrorist threats, ect. The victim has some evidence of violence or a threat of violence like injuries, slashed car tires, threatening messages on the answering machine or voicemail. The police call an on-call judge and present him with the victims claims and evidence. The judge grants or rejects the EPO. If he grants it it is usually valid for 3 to 5 days, but usually only until the next session of family court. On the next session of family court the victim goes to court the morning of. Fills out a ton of paperwork. Makes a resonable effort to contact/subpeona suspect by calling his home, work, family. Then a hearing is schedualed for late morning early afternoon. If both the suspect and victim show up the judge will hear the case an revoke the EPO or issue a perm restraining order. If the suspect doesnt show, the judge will hear the victims case and read the police reports, then most likely issue a Temporary restraining order (30 days) until a court date can be set in which both parties will be present. I have people ask me for EPO's all the time. If there is no evidence I just refer them to family court.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 10:58:53 AM EDT
I know it has already been mentioned....but, when I was working the road (I am a Narcotics Officer now) I saw this all the time: Woman call guy to have him come to whatever location for whatever reason. Woman has already called the cops and says something like 1) He is following me and I just stopped here after calling the police 2) He demanded I come to this location or he would...bla, bla, bla to me 3) You have to pick the kids up because I have to go do...bla,bla,bla If you do have kids and she pulls this...tell her to take the kids to the local Police Station and do the exchange that way. Call the PD ahead of time and tell them about the order, and ask them to help. If she refuses...well, tell her to take the kids to a family member and when she leaves you will pick them up. You get the point?! But the tricky part! Do not answer a phone call from her, her friends, anyone who is associated with her! We used to get woman calling from payphones, friends, neighbors, and so on just to get the guy in trouble. Especially if they call from a friends house...the friends hears her yelling at you and BAM! Instant witness against you...you were harassing her! Don't go to the "hangouts" she will go to..bars, eating establishments and such. You do need to get your guns out of your possession...NOW! I know this all sucks...SUCKS VERY MUCH!! However, you have to watch your six very careful on this. The woman has the upper hand and will probably try to get one over on you. Take care and stay cool medcop
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