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7/12/2008 8:29:56 AM EDT
Greetings all,

I've a gated entrance to my place and am thinking to put some sort of com system there.  I've already got motion detectors, so I know when anyone is about the various zones surrounding my property (which is helpful) but I'm unsure what to put for coms down on the gate.  Vandalism isn't an issue (least not yet) - it's the last house on a private drive & I'd like it wired as opposed to wireless (no batteries, transmission issues).  Any suggestions for a good intercom sys?  Perhaps a field phone?  I'm lost on all the commercial results I get with searches...

TIA,
Paje
7/12/2008 8:31:56 AM EDT
[#1]
7/12/2008 8:36:32 AM EDT
[#2]
My parents have their system wired in through their phone system.  It uses a distinctive ring that they're able to answer at any of their phones.  It also has the capability to forward the call to other numbers.  Then it's a matter of typing in a code to open or close the gate.  You basically control everything through the home phone system.

I'll get back to you with the manufacturer later today or tomorrow.
7/12/2008 8:38:06 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/lizsun/Blog/communication.jpg

where's that lol@above smiley?!?!

eta - found it!  
7/12/2008 8:41:17 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
My parents have their system wired in through their phone system.  It uses a distinctive ring that they're able to answer at any of their phones.  It also has the capability to forward the call to other numbers.  Then it's a matter of typing in a code to open or close the gate.  You basically control everything through the home phone system.

I'll get back to you with the manufacturer later today or tomorrow.


Cool & thanks...  I only have VoIP phone (over FiOS Internet)... unsure if that sys would be compatible but, if so...

I'm checking out some MURS sys's as well (perhaps w/external power)... pricey.
7/12/2008 8:41:35 AM EDT
[#5]
You need one of these coupled with two regular phones and enough phone line to reach.

Using a ring down box makes it foolproof for the folks pulling up, they just take the handset off the hook and it rings on your end. No dialing, no buttons.

It also lets you make the phone on that end ring if you know someone is down there.

Just make a small enclosure for the phone, and use cheap $5 phones on the outside so even if there are vandals they don't hurt anything expensive. That is another advantage, the ring down box is the most expensive part of the system, and you can locate that in your home nice and safe.
7/12/2008 8:51:25 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
You need one of these coupled with two regular phones and enough phone line to reach.

Using a ring down box makes it foolproof for the folks pulling up, they just take the handset off the hook and it rings on your end. No dialing, no buttons.

It also lets you make the phone on that end ring if you know someone is down there.

Just make a small enclosure for the phone, and use cheap $5 phones on the outside so even if there are vandals they don't hurt anything expensive. That is another advantage, the ring down box is the most expensive part of the system, and you can locate that in your home nice and safe.


Aha - now we're cooking!  Thanks.  That ringdown device, two phones (weather-proof mount the outdoor one) & some rj45 cable.  Almost as cheap as 2 cans and string!
7/12/2008 8:55:36 AM EDT
[#7]
I only know about the intercoms I install and support, and they're probably gross overkill for a house. Wish I could offer a suggestion.
7/12/2008 8:56:34 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You need one of these coupled with two regular phones and enough phone line to reach.

Using a ring down box makes it foolproof for the folks pulling up, they just take the handset off the hook and it rings on your end. No dialing, no buttons.

It also lets you make the phone on that end ring if you know someone is down there.

Just make a small enclosure for the phone, and use cheap $5 phones on the outside so even if there are vandals they don't hurt anything expensive. That is another advantage, the ring down box is the most expensive part of the system, and you can locate that in your home nice and safe.


Aha - now we're cooking!  Thanks.  That ringdown device, two phones (weather-proof mount the outdoor one) & some rj45 cable.  Almost as cheap as 2 cans and string!
If you are feeling fancy add one of these to activate the gate controls, lights, a claymore, or whatever on that same circuit....

Yes, you can go through alot of $$$ on that website if you like to tinker.
7/12/2008 8:58:43 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
You need one of these coupled with two regular phones and enough phone line to reach.

Using a ring down box makes it foolproof for the folks pulling up, they just take the handset off the hook and it rings on your end. No dialing, no buttons.

It also lets you make the phone on that end ring if you know someone is down there.

Just make a small enclosure for the phone, and use cheap $5 phones on the outside so even if there are vandals they don't hurt anything expensive. That is another advantage, the ring down box is the most expensive part of the system, and you can locate that in your home nice and safe.


That's an excellent suggestion. PLAR for the win.


EDIT: OP, this is your answer right here. Perfect.
7/12/2008 9:00:55 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I only know about the intercoms I install and support, and they're probably gross overkill for a house. Wish I could offer a suggestion.


Thanks Sub... I've been accused of going overkill on occasion.  Post up your gear for the curious (if you've time).



Quoted:
If you are feeling fancy add one of these to activate the gate controls, lights, a claymore, or whatever on that same circuit....

Yes, you can go through alot of $$$ on that website if you like to tinker.


Forward the link to the claymores!  


Quoted:
That's an excellent suggestion. PLAR for the win.


EDIT: OP, this is your answer right here. Perfect.


already ordering & hunting down other nesc supplies.
7/12/2008 9:31:28 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Thanks Sub... I've been accused of going overkill on occasion.  Post up your gear for the curious (if you've time).


You asked for it!

Let's see, first you'll need a rack for the server. It's just your house, so you could probably get away with a Chatsworth and a shelf stuffed in a closet, or in the basement.




Next, you'll need a server. I'd probably hook you up with an MCS-7835:



Next, you'll need a voice gateway to connect to the PSTN, and a 10/100 switch for your phones. Since this is your house, I'd probably go with a Cisco 1861, since it's got  FXO (for the PSTN) and FXS (for analog phones like the intercom) interfaces. Plus, it saves having to buy a switch (like a Catalyst, for example), since the built in switch will do QoS and supports PoE.



You'll need some phones, too. Two line appearances ought to be plenty for you, so I'd go with some 7941's.



Oh, and we've still gotta wire the house up. You'll need a patch panel (I'm partial to Panduit):




And a box of CAT 5e:




With your new kick ass IP-based phone switch, you'll be the envy of your neighbors. And with that foundation in place, doing the intercom is a piece of cake! Throw a cheap analog phone outside, and we'll run it to the FXS port on the 1861. I'll put the phone in a PLAR partition, and make it ring any phone you want (or a group of them, if you'd like).

With friend's pricing, I could probably hook you up with the hardware and licensing for around $10,000 - $12,000 off the top of my head. Labor is normally $225/hr, but I'd configure everything for a case of beer and maybe a BBQ.


You asked.
7/12/2008 9:51:34 AM EDT
[#12]
If Viking doesn't make it you don't need it.

Viking Entry Systems
7/12/2008 10:05:14 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Thanks Sub... I've been accused of going overkill on occasion.  Post up your gear for the curious (if you've time).


You asked for it!

Let's see, first you'll need a rack for the server. It's just your house, so you could probably get away with a Chatsworth and a shelf stuffed in a closet, or in the basement.

www.recycledgoods.com/images/s_p_18558_1.jpg


Next, you'll need a server. I'd probably hook you up with an MCS-7835:

217.205.137.242/images/Cisco%20Systems/OR1200000070910.jpg

Next, you'll need a voice gateway to connect to the PSTN, and a 10/100 switch for your phones. Since this is your house, I'd probably go with a Cisco 1861, since it's got  FXO (for the PSTN) and FXS (for analog phones like the intercom) interfaces. Plus, it saves having to buy a switch (like a Catalyst, for example), since the built in switch will do QoS and supports PoE.

uc500.com/files/cisco1861.jpg

You'll need some phones, too. Two line appearances ought to be plenty for you, so I'd go with some 7941's.

www.starshipcorp.com/shop_dealer/images/Cisco%20IP%20Phone%20CP-7941G.jpeg

Oh, and we've still gotta wire the house up. You'll need a patch panel (I'm partial to Panduit):

www.miamisat.com/eq-image/images/Panduit%2048%20port%20Cat%205%20patch%20-%20100_JPG.jpg


And a box of CAT 5e:

www.vpi.us/vpi/images/items/cat5e-bulk-gray.gif


With your new kick ass IP-based phone switch, you'll be the envy of your neighbors. And with that foundation in place, doing the intercom is a piece of cake! Throw a cheap analog phone outside, and we'll run it to the FXS port on the 1861. I'll put the phone in a PLAR partition, and make it ring any phone you want (or a group of them, if you'd like).

With friend's pricing, I could probably hook you up with the hardware and licensing for around $10,000 - $12,000 off the top of my head. Labor is normally $225/hr, but I'd configure everything for a case of beer and maybe a BBQ.


You asked.


LOL!  I love it.  


Cisco, Panduit, etc., are all good.  Could we use this for the server instead? ~>
(it's sitting in my garage)  You know Irix, right?  

I used to work here ~> but then it turned into , I left and it eventually went ~> (last I knew).
7/12/2008 10:09:45 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
If Viking doesn't make it you don't need it.

Viking Entry Systems


Sweet!  I want that $400 phone enclosure for the $5 phone I'm gonna put out there.
7/12/2008 10:20:21 AM EDT
[#15]
I didn't say it was cheap lol.