Posted: 6/24/2008 11:55:57 PM EDT
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I rarely post these type of topics but sitting here admiring my rifles and recalling so many arguments of "milspec' and "tier one" or "Kool Aid", etc. Lets face it. excluding the few and very expensive M16's in the civilian market, the M1 and her predicesors are the only real, true blue, dyed-in-the-wool, "tier one", mil-spec rifles the average civilian can get their hands on for a fair price without jumping through legal hoops and mortgageing the house or withdrawing the kids college funds. Given that strictly speaking, are they not a better weapon in overall quality, fuctionality, durability, and longevity? relly. we all talk about the latest offering from this comopany or that but lets face it, Colt and FN are the only real manufacturers of mil-spec weapons. And the Kool Aid drinkers will shove that right in your face at first chance. But the M1, 1903, Krag, etc are the real deal and many of us own them. So at the end of the day do you feel your BM, RRA, DPMS, Armalite, Stag, LMT, etc is just a replica? Elaborate? I know my M1's are real, issued rifles that met .mil standards and were tested as such. My AR's are not and were not but I believe they would function just as well as the general issue Colts and FN's... What say you? |
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Most commercial ARs have a terrible job on the staking of the gas key also most of them do not have the right extractor spring insert. These days demand is so high for ARs I would be concerned about qc and assembly issues far more than I would things like whether the barrel is 1/7 v. 1/9 or if it's parkerized under the front sight. A LaRue upper isn't anywhere close to mil spec, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over having one. |
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"Mil-spec" is just a standard. For my own use I may require higher standards, or be able to accept lower or different standards for various features. For example, things like furniture, etc. don't need to be the actual mil-spec, issue type. In fact there may be some guns where I'd prefer NOT to have the milspec. It's like that for everything. The key is to educate yourself, and understand what you're looking at and understand what your own requirements are. An ALICE pack is Mil-spec, but there's plenty of better packs available, if that's what I need. On the other hand an ALICE pack might be the best choice as well. Know what you need, know what you're looking at, and understand. Don't drink kool-aid, nor believe that "mil-spec" is the end-all/be-all. But if you understand what it all means, then you can make an intelligent decision, and one for yourself and your needs. |
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Mil-spec is a standard, but it is abused by marketers, and mall ninja douche bags. If your AR has a crappy staking job on the gay keys or castle nut, buy yourself a fucking hammer and vice and fix it yourself! It's not that hard! Don't lose sleep over a non chrome lined bore (you'll probably lose money in the long run with extra cleaning supplies, haha) 1/9 twist, this and that barrel steel, or the width of your buffer tube. That shit won't matter to 99.9999% of civilian shooters. Given that most civvies fire only a few hundred rounds in months (if even that much), why all the worry? 4150 steel and SOCOM barrels are for people who will fire what you fire in a year, in a few minutes!!! It's way to easy to get caught up in the bullshit and become a mall ninja... |
Oh that's right, go interjecting logic and intelligence in a GD thread...! |
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All the Bushmaster carriers I have seen in the past 3 years have had more than adequate stakings. As far as the Parkerizing under the FSB, it does't matter. Fit over finish. Parkerizing will alter dimemsions. If the fit is tight, oil will seep into the gap. Without oil, even the best Parkerization will rust if oil is removed. |