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6/18/2008 1:48:43 PM EDT
House Democrats call for nationalization of refineries

Here we go...

6/18/2008 1:50:26 PM EDT
[#1]
House Democrats responded to President's Bush's call for Congress to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling. This was at an on-camera press conference fed back live.

Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.

They also reasserted that the reason the Appropriations Committee markup (where the vote on the amendment to lift the ban) was cancelled so they could focus on preparing the supplemental Iraq spending bill for tomorrow.

At an off-camera briefing, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said the same. And a senior Republican House Appropriations Committee aide adds that "there were multiple reasons for the postponement" including discussion on the supplemental. But the aide said there was the thought that Democrats may wish to avoid a debate today on energy amendments.

Here are the highlights from briefing

Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), member of the House Appropriations Committee and one of the most-ardent opponents of off-shore drilling

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We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.

Hinchey on why they postponed the Appropriations markup

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I think there aren't enough votes for the Peterson amendment. It wasn't taken up (the Interior spending bill) because of the omnibus Appropriations bill. That's the main focus of the Appropriations Committee.

Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)

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They (Republicans) have a one-trick pony approach.

Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV), Chairman of the Resources Committee

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You cannot drill your way out of this.

Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA), chairman of the House Select Committee on Global Warming

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The White House has become a ventriloquist for the oil and gas energy. The finger should be directed back at them. They had plenty of opportunity to (arrange an energy policy). But they did not put an energy policy in place.

Markey

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The governors of California and the governors of Florida are going to scream this is not the way to go.

Hinchey

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There are a lot of arrows in the President's quiver that he decided not use.

Hinchey

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What we do has to be in the interest of the American people. Not major corporations.

Emanuel

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It's like when I talk to my kids. Before we're going to talk about dessert, we've got to talk about what's on your plate. I hope I'm a little more successful with the oil industry than I am with my kids.

Markey7

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There are so many red herrings out there they might as well construct an aquarium.

From House Majoirity Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) when I asked him if the markup was cancelled because of potential Democratic defections on the Peterson amendment..

"No. The reason the markups aren't going through is because we're trying to get the supplemental on the floor tomorrow."

Andfrom a Senior Republican House Appropriations Aide..

"There were multiple reasons for the postponement including ongoing negotiations on the (supplemental) and a (Democratic) wish to avoid debate and votes on the energy amendments.
6/18/2008 1:50:59 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been predicting this for a couple of years.  The same will eventually happen to airlines.  Then farming.

The government believes it knows how best to run the economy.  And it'll confiscate everything you own to prove it.
6/18/2008 1:51:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Insane.

Liberals are insane.
6/18/2008 1:51:34 PM EDT
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6/18/2008 1:53:43 PM EDT
[#5]
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.
6/18/2008 1:54:05 PM EDT
[#6]
WTF? Is this a professional news organization? That story looks like it was cobbled together by fourth graders.

There is ONE person who advocates nationalizing the industry quoted. So don't know where that "S" comes from.

Ugh, this country is blowing off the charts of ridiculous.
6/18/2008 1:55:04 PM EDT
[#7]
I bet DU is having a wet dream right now.
6/18/2008 1:55:08 PM EDT
[#8]
The only difference between the house Democrats and Hugo Chavez is Chavez is better looking.

6/18/2008 1:55:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Nationalizing refineries that are running at max capacity will obviously improve production. Duh.

6/18/2008 1:56:23 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
WTF? Is this a professional news organization? That story looks like it was cobbled together by fourth graders.

There is ONE person who advocates nationalizing the industry quoted. So don't know where that "S" comes from.

Ugh, this country is blowing off the charts of ridiculous.


That wasn't an article.  Give it a few minutes and I'm sure it'll get replaced with one though.
6/18/2008 1:56:53 PM EDT
[#11]

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This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


And 65 years ago, FDR was doing it.

Face it.  Most Americans are socialists.
6/18/2008 1:57:36 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.



Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people and thier love Marxist class warfare.
6/18/2008 1:57:58 PM EDT
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6/18/2008 1:58:38 PM EDT
[#14]
What, their plan is too have the government inefficiently run an industry that already can't meet demand??

Glorious...keep this sort of stuff coming and even McCain can't lose.
6/18/2008 1:59:00 PM EDT
[#15]

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Nationalizing refineries that are running at max capacity will obviously improve production. Duh.




they didn't say anything about IMPROVING production.  

they want to CONTROL the flow of oil.

all about control.

6/18/2008 2:00:44 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


And 65 years ago, FDR was doing it.

Face it.  Most Americans are socialists.


Something about realizing they can vote themselves gifts from the public treasury.

ETA - and those of who think the government should be small and not involved with redistribution of money or goods at all no longer have a "mainstream party" to represent us.
6/18/2008 2:01:45 PM EDT
[#17]
Does anyone else hear " Deutchland uber alles " playing softly in the background?  I sure hope o'banger loses this fall.  
6/18/2008 2:03:43 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:


Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.





6/18/2008 2:06:08 PM EDT
[#19]

This is how Liberty dies...to thundering applause.
6/18/2008 2:06:14 PM EDT
[#20]

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ETA - and those of who think the government should be small and not involved with redistribution of money or goods at all no longer have a "mainstream party" to represent us.


+1
6/18/2008 2:06:22 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


And 65 years ago, FDR was doing it.

Face it.  Most Americans are socialists.


There is unfortunate truth to this.

I've mentioned to other members here before... Socialism won't take the nation by force. We will request it...
6/18/2008 2:07:05 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:


Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.







+1

Did they legalize drugs in DC today?
6/18/2008 2:07:50 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:


Among other things, the Democrats called for the government to own refineries so it could better control the flow of the oil supply.








You get to buy  gas 1 day a week.

Pelosi majority can FOAD.
6/18/2008 2:09:48 PM EDT
[#24]
Adios Americanos.
6/18/2008 2:13:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Been hearing a lot of talk about pitch forks and torches lately.  I’ve heard of people sending peanuts to Hollywierd to save a TV show.  We should start sending pitch forks to Congress.  Group buy??  
6/18/2008 2:13:56 PM EDT
[#26]
I can see it now, we will have explosions and fires all over the place if the govt ran the refineries.
6/18/2008 2:14:23 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Does anyone else hear " Deutchland uber alles " playing softly in the background?  I sure hope o'banger loses this fall.  


More like the soviet national anthem.  
6/18/2008 2:19:07 PM EDT
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"...far in the distance, on the edge of the earth, a small flame was waving in the wind, the defiantly stubborn flame of Wyatt's Torch, twisting, being torn and regaining its hold, not to be uprooted or extinguished..."



John Galt Gifts

6/18/2008 2:22:05 PM EDT
[#29]
Imagine the TSA morons running a refinery.  Not a good idea.  
6/18/2008 2:25:17 PM EDT
[#30]
God bless [what used to be] America....
6/18/2008 2:27:25 PM EDT
[#31]
I hope barry echoes this.  But it will probably go over to well with the moronic voters.
6/18/2008 2:28:17 PM EDT
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House Democrats call for nationalization of refineries

Here we go...



Soviet Russia, Cambodia, Red China, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, Cuba, and the Middle East all approve.
6/18/2008 2:28:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Here's a thought. If the US government wants to own refineries......BUILD SOME, but leave the ones running now alone.
6/18/2008 2:30:33 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


And 65 years ago, FDR was doing it.

Face it.  Most Americans are socialists.


NO THEY ARE NOT!!
6/18/2008 2:31:42 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
"...far in the distance, on the edge of the earth, a small flame was waving in the wind, the defiantly stubborn flame of Wyatt's Torch, twisting, being torn and regaining its hold, not to be uprooted or extinguished..."

www.johngaltgifts.com/prodimages/WyattOilFlamesShirt1a.jpg

John Galt Gifts



+1, and that's a cool site.
6/18/2008 2:32:22 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Been hearing a lot of talk about pitch forks and torches lately.  I’ve heard of people sending peanuts to Hollywierd to save a TV show.  We should start sending pitch forks to Congress.  Group buy??  


It's drill bits right now, actually....
6/18/2008 2:32:23 PM EDT
[#37]
This has to die.  Hopefully the Senate will thumb its nose at this....Nationalized industries = instant socialism.
6/18/2008 2:33:47 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

There is ONE person who advocates nationalizing the industry quoted. So don't know where that "S" comes from.



Well, he did make the statement at an event with other members of the leadership present and no one jumped up to distance themselves from it, so I have no problem with considering it a de facto position of the Democrat Party.
6/18/2008 2:33:52 PM EDT
[#39]
This situation has truly gotten out of hand.



6/18/2008 2:34:08 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


And 65 years ago, FDR was doing it.

Face it.  Most Americans are socialists.


NO THEY ARE NOT!!


Yes, many are...

MOST Americans are like the 'Non-Citizens' of Heinlein's Starship Troopers... Many of them have socialist leanings but don't care enough to vote...

Of the ones who take citizenship seriously, there is a roughly 50/50 split between socialist and non-socialist coalitions....
6/18/2008 2:34:42 PM EDT
[#41]
So what are they gonna do?  Seize the refineries?  What about the shareholders of those publicly traded corporations?  Tell them and their 401k's tough shit?

Yeah, this is gonna go over like a fart in church.
6/18/2008 2:35:46 PM EDT
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6/18/2008 2:35:59 PM EDT
[#43]
There was time when we called this Communism and we fought it.  
6/18/2008 2:36:19 PM EDT
[#44]

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This situation has truly gotten out of hand.





Yeah, but we won't follow Thomas Jefferson's advice, so who cares anymore?  Damn the NBA season is over...all I have is shitty MLB until NCAA football starts in August.
6/18/2008 2:38:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Congresswoman Maxine Waters mentioned Nationalization of the Oil Companies 2 weeks ago during a open committee meeting.
6/18/2008 2:38:53 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Imagine the TSA morons running a refinery.  Not a good idea.  


TSA would have trouble running a gas station...
6/18/2008 2:39:56 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


You start picking the lamp posts and i will start cutting the Piano wire to the right lengths...
6/18/2008 2:40:57 PM EDT
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Once again the colossus stupidity of the democrat party comes in for the win!
6/18/2008 2:41:59 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
This is political SUICIDE.  Thank you, Democrat Party.

50 years ago and this would have meant politicians swinging from lamp posts.


As it should today.  People who support communism as flagrantly as that should be shot on sight.
6/18/2008 2:44:46 PM EDT
[#50]

We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.

Hinchey on why they postponed the Appropriations markup


Yeah, that sounds capitalist.

Fucking socialists.


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