Posted: 4/29/2008 6:16:32 PM EDT
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I'm about to make my first FTF firearms transaction, and being a new buyer, I don't want to get screwed over. The seller lives in an apartment complex about 15 minutes away. We decided that the deal would be done inside his apartment. Should I leave my money in the car as I inspect the firearm and then go back and get it? Or should I just bring it all with me inside his apartment? Doing the transaction outside would probably spook the general public, so that's a no-no. I want to trust the seller, but I have never met him before. I just want to prevent myself from getting into a bad situation, such as getting mugged. 
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I told someone I had bought an AR15 and they asked where and I said "K-Mart parking lot" and I got one of these . i would probabaly just trust them if they have a posting count on this website or another, I am generally not to scared or thinking anyone is out to get me. But that doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
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Actually, if it's a handgun and not concealed, it is illegal. If it's a long gun, it's totally legal. Your state laws are different than TX. |
Does that apply to private property, tho? Does it make a difference if the property is your own? I'm pretty sure you're not committing UCW for open carrying a handgun on your own property. |
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Bring a friend/witness and go to the guy's apartment, unless you have a specific reason/hunch/feeling as to why it would be bad in this case. Draw up 2 copies of a sales receipt. It protects you and the seller both, to a certain extent. "I, AzNoob am buying a 5 megaton nuke with the shoulder thing that goes up (Serial Number 1234567) from The Creepy Apartment Rapist on Tuesday April 29, 2008 for the sum of $5." You both sign each copy. You get one and he gets one. Walk away. Always assuming such FTF sales are GTG in your AO, of course. ETA: The reason being is that I like to have plenty of time to examine said firearm without looking over my shoulder, trying to keep it under the dashboard so that the sheep don't panic and stampede, etc. YMMV. |
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lots of paranoid people on this board for christs sake. I'd be more scared of being hit by a car than of being robbed in a FTF transaction. I just go to the house/apartment. Its kinda fun that way, get to see what kinda person they are, BS about other guns for awhile, etc, etc. Last thing I'd want to for some "concerned citizen" to call the cops that two men are "brandishing firearms" in public. |
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Every FTF transaction I've done has been in a parking lot of some random business with immediate access to the Interstate. Going inside a building? Shit, I dont even like to exit my car.  $$$ + multiple known armed persons = do it out in the open and with immediate access to vehicular egress. 
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Usually these deals go down in abandoned warehouses near the water. Expect him to have the merchandise in the trunk of his car or displayed prominently on a table or something in the middle of the room. You as the buyer should have the money in a locked case of some sort preferably handcuffed to your wrist. If you will be wearing a wire, make sure it is very well concealed. Try to make sure that your police tail (if you have one) isn't spotted. Whatever you do, it is likely by the end of the deal you will have lost confidence in each other. At this point thousands of round will be fired and stuff will explode all over the place!  Seriously, meet somewhere in public. Look the gun over. If you like what you see, pay the man. I've never had an issue buying or selling to date. A lot of guys may ask to glance at your driver's license or ID to make sure you are a state resident and the deal will be legal. |
I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter(meaning the local police/sheriff probably wouldn't care) if you're on your own property. Obviously, it's likely quite different in larger libtard infested cities than in the more rural areas I'm used to. |
You make the " transaction " sound like a dope deal. Said person with gun has invited you to his home doesn't sound shady. Why don't you do the sale at local PD should be no issues, on common ground. Don't buy firearms from Lootie. |
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Make sure someone knows exactly where you are going, what you are doing, and approximately what time to expect you back. That way, if the seller tries to kidnap you and chain you in his pit that he dug in his basement, and make you rub oil on yourself to soften your skin up so he can wear it like clothing after he does the surprise buttsecks thing with you and then kills you and eats you, someone will come and rescue you before any of that can happen. Well, just sayin! |
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Well, I am the 'other' person in this FTF deal, so I can confirm that I am neither a rapist or a mugger The buyer didn't really want to do it in public, so my apartment was pretty much the only other place to go. I have no problem doing it in the parking lot of Kroger across the street or something. I do plan on making up a bill of sale, so that when my gun gets used in a drive by I can disavow all knowledge of it belonging to me anymore 
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"They come out at night... mostly they come out at night"  |
| If I need to, I usually meet at a sportsman's warehouse, but really, if the deal or the seller/buyer seems hinky, why the hell would you buy a gun from them? You should at least talk some on the phone before the deal-if for no other reason than to make sure the other guy at least sounds legit. If you're buying from someone local, see if they know some of the same people as you (though this may only apply to AZ, as I know a great many FFL's and manufacturers..). |