[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Winchester Model 94, gotta have one! (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/30/2008 2:56:47 PM EDT
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I've got to get a Winchester Model 94 now, after shooting one at the range today. A gentleman I've met there before that always has some cool stuff let me shoot his, and it was a dream. The 94-22 was amazing too. Any places I can look up info on them or figure out what I should expect to pay for a decent one? Any info would be appreciated... This just ads to the list after shooting his SAA, Peacemaker 22, Anaconda, Python, etc... I may drink some koolaid later tonight.... 
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There should be a million 94's out there in 30-30. I see them in shops all the time used for around $300. I bought that 1 of 1000 1886 for a little more than that 
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I'm lever gun stupid, but I saw, I held, I shot, I want. 
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The takedown models can be taken apart at the receiver for casing, transport, etc. It was a moderately common feature back whenthese guns were first introduced. Mine's a modern repro (under the Winchester label; built by Miroku, I believe); originals are worth serious money. |
Oh ya, the 94-22 he pulled out was just as nice of a shooter too. Interesting actions on both, and the smoothness of them really surprised me. |
Might want to consider what hand guns you already have and match the calibers with a lever gun --- something like a .357 camp rifle - or even a Saddle Ring Carbine. Marlins are good value, new or used, but don't have the Winchester name and significant history. |
I'm up for variety, it makes things interesting... and I'm in a gun buying mood, don't know why but I'm bidding and hunting for all sorts of things... |
What would a take down model run approximately? I think a side load, top eject would be fine for right now, especially if I find one in a 16" barrel length. Maybe i should go longer, I really don't know. Like I said, I saw, I held, I shot, I want... but I am patient, so I don't want to spend too much too quick ya know? |
The last time I looked 1886 takedowns were running around $1200- $1500 NIB. That's for Mirokus, the originals in good condition started at $2500 and went up from there. Also, that was at least a year ago. ETA: NIB |
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I have one in 30-30 my dad bought new for me when I was 12. Havent shot it since I was 14. So its been a safe queen for 22 years. never thought it was much fun shooting but now im kinda thinking Id like to take it out and run some rounds thru it.. In fact i have a lot of safe queens. I have a M700 30-06 that I bought when I was 17. havent shot it in about 10 years. It was my main deer rifle until I bought a M700 in 280. then there's my 870 TB my dad bought me when I was a kid. its gorgeous with a real fancy walnut stock that would make you drool. Havent shot it in about a dozen years. I could go on and on. |
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Why haven't you shot it? I shot these off hand and had a blast. But then again, I've always enjoyed shooting anything I can get my grubby little hands on. This gentleman will consistently out shoot me, point out things to make me a better shooter and keeps throwing some expensive steel at me. But the lever actions were a BLAST. I've always wanted one, always wanted to shoot one and about drooled on the danged thing when I saw it. |
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Marlin 1894C in .357 Might be just the ticket -- comes in 45 Colt also Need to find the MSRP for you though Again MARLIN ETA: Looks like a nine shot 1894C in 357 MSRP is $527 A 10 shot with a octogon barrel (1894 Cowboy) is $822 |
Marlin 1895's in general and Guide Guns in specific are pretty nice, but they are a little much to handle as an entry level lever gun. They are also a bit expensive to feed. The OP liked the 94, and unless Browning picks the 94 back up the 336 is the closest equivalent.Besides the Marlin 1895 wishes it could grow up to be a Winchester 1886.
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Mossberg is out with an inexpensive levergun that looks like a cross between a Marlin 336 and Winchester 94, a bit more like the Winchester. Also, the various model 92 clones would be a good choice. |
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I bought a couple of them in .30/30 last May. One was my wife's Mother's Day present (she's not my mother and I have no chilluns with her, but her kids stiffed her). One is a plain-jane model with almost no rounds through it--$250. The other is an Illinois Sesquicentennial Commemorative, with a serious scratch on the side of the receiver (  ), otherwise NIB, for $300. Fun shooters.  ETA: Folks are real proud of the 9422s these days. Most are around $600. 
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My father in law passed away a couple years ago. My wife found a pristine pre-1964 Model 94 (30-30) in the home. She never even knew he owned a gun. He was a banker, and probably bought it for some social hunting trip. Doubt it's even been fired. Anyway, it's mine now.
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My Grandfather bought this when he got back from the Pacific in the late 40's - http://lh3.google.com/wyzardd/RoLfOheyffI/AAAAAAAAAgk/vk0HRz0ik0M/Winmdl94.jpg?imgmax=720 The things killed more elk than I've ever seen, I suspect. Wonderful, wonderful rifle. It's not for sale, sorry. But I can't imagine not having a lever gun, an old Winchester .30-30 is essential for the proper operation of any gun safe/closet/house/truck/etc. IMHO. Can't find a pic of my 94/22, but it's a fun little gun that I'd highly recommend, if only they still made them. eta - Granddad left me this one when he died (and a late-60's mdl 94 to the second-oldest male grandson). He carried mine on his saddle for near 40 years, it's still kind of painful to shoot it. I didn't get nearly enough elk seasons with that old man. |
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I’m far from a levergun expert. So take this for what little it’s worth… For utility… .30-30>.44Magnum>.357 Magnum>.45 Colt. .45 Colt might win out for coolness but it’s nowhere near as useful as the other cartridges. Whatever you do, make sure you don’t put any pointed bullets into a tubular magazine. Bad things can happen. |
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I can't imagine a proper gun safe that doesn't have a Winchester Model '94 and a Colt SAA in it.... If you grew up watching Westerns, you HAVE to have some cowboy guns! The fact that the '94 30/30 is a great woods rifle for whitetails is just one more reason to own one. Six million people can't be wrong.... The '94 30/30 was the first hunting rifle I ever bought. Good shooting, desmobob |
How the heck does that big leather seat fit on your motorcycle? desmobob, in NY 
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It's a big motorcycle but it is only 1 horsepower.
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I'm from NY, but up north, in the boondocks. I rode one of those hairy motorcycles once. It tried to bite me. It was a rental unit, though. I understand the ones you raise yourself are a little more friendly and loyal. I would attract way too much attention with a 30/30 in a scabbard on my Ducati. Your ride is better. Good riding, desmobob |
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+1 for the 45-70. The history of that round is amazing. This makes a great caliber for predetor defense, and is a great brush gun. 30-30 has killed more than its fair share of deer. be a good choice. The .44SPC/.44Magnum is high on fun factor. You could pair that with a wheel gun later. Since you already have a .357, that makes alot of sense as well. You can shoot cheap .38 through it, but you would also have the ability to run the badace .357 magnums if you wanted. I don't like the .45LC or SC, unless you already have a gun in that caliber. The balistics are pretty boring, and the historical significance of those rounds isn't as much fun to me. On an unrelated (related?) note, I shot a keltec 9mm subgun on Saturday. I enjoyed it, but I will tell you it was kinda... well, "meh" sums it up. It was cool to be able to fire 10 rounds into an orange sized group from 15-20 yards. But you are still only shooting pistol caliber rounds. Kinda the same reaction I would have when shooting .22lr or 9mm in an AR platform. Enjoyable yes, but not as cool as shooting 5.56mm as it was intended. So while, yes, shooting pitol calibers is fun, unless you are shooting a pistol caliber you would otherwise not want to shoot in a pistol (think .44 Mag), I don't think it's quite as much fun. But you have to weigh this against ammo cost, and the liklihood that you will ever decide to use the weapon in a hunting situation. |
